Jonathan Kuminga

[God Squad]

Kum Bucket!

Top 10 worst nicknames for a player

What's worse is it was GSW fans who coined it.

[BleedGreen1989]

Kuminga has all the talent in the world but awful BBIQ and an inconsistent motor. He really does just needs to play and get reps but they're a team that is trying to win championships so when he continuously shows he's not ready they have to listen. Missed defensive assignments, ugly bricks, not running back in transition, etc. I think the Warriors should plan on him being the starter next year and move off of Wiggins though, no matter if they win the championship or not. He should be ready by then

I don't understand where this take comes from. Feels kind of lazily regurgitated. When I have watched Kuminga, I don't see any dramatic boneheaded plays. I see inexperience you would expect from a 20 year old.

[Pointgod]

Kum Bucket!

Top 10 worst nicknames for a player

What's worse is it was GSW fans who coined it.

[xBulletproof]

Kum Bucket!

Top 10 worst nicknames for a player

You're being nice with top 10, or you accidentally added the 0. Pretty sure that's top 1 for the worst.

[cupcakesnake]

According to RealGM posters, Kuminga was already a bust since he was 19 years old getting limited playing time behind experienced veterans on a championship team last season.

And this year since Kuminga turned 20, he’s even more of a bust because he’s not already an All-Star before being of legal drinking age. Kuminga is not an elite shooter omg what a bust.

We’ve had threads on Kuminga before. Per the posters here, Warriors were dumb to draft him. We don’t care that he’s young, we already know that he’s going to be a bust.

I disagree with this assessment of a universal realgm take on Kuminga. Maybe you've seen plenty of hate (what high drafted low minute young player doesn't get that hate?) but people watching Kuminga have been expressing their intrigue along the way. He's been up and down, both in terms of his own consistency, and in how big a role he has on Golden State. Fans who watch the highlights are fascinated and want to know why he's not playing more. Boxscore checkers see no obvious progression and maybe think there's no development happening. (They're not going to notice him doubling his assist rate, cutting his fouls some). Kuminga spent the first chunk of the season as a victim (or contributor) on those awful bench lineup experiments that were probably necessary.

You can't expect the full spectrum of fans to be onboard for a slow burn development project. But when I read Kuminga threads, it's obvious that the fans who are watching the games haven't lost hope or interest, even outside of Golden State fans. Everyone knows he's a special talent. Most fans are extremely impatient so Kuminga isn't going to exempt from the hot take analysis or rush to call someone a bust. Ignore all that because it's a given. When focusing on insights from people who actually care enough, Kuminga has drawn a fair mix of praise, intrigue, and skepticism. He's been up and down but has always been an eye-popping talent.

[xBulletproof]

According to RealGM posters, Kuminga was already a bust since he was 19 years old getting limited playing time behind experienced veterans on a championship team last season.

And this year since Kuminga turned 20, he’s even more of a bust because he’s not already an All-Star before being of legal drinking age. Kuminga is not an elite shooter omg what a bust.

We’ve had threads on Kuminga before. Per the posters here, Warriors were dumb to draft him. We don’t care that he’s young, we already know that he’s going to be a bust.

I disagree with this assessment of a universal realgm take on Kuminga. Maybe you've seen plenty of hate (what high drafted low minute young player doesn't get that hate?) but people watching Kuminga have been expressing their intrigue along the way. He's been up and down, both in terms of his own consistency, and in how big a role he has on Golden State. Fans who watch the highlights are fascinated and want to know why he's not playing more. Boxscore checkers see no obvious progression and maybe think there's no development happening. (They're not going to notice him doubling his assist rate, cutting his fouls some). Kuminga spent the first chunk of the season as a victim (or contributor) on those awful bench lineup experiments that were probably necessary.

You can't expect the full spectrum of fans to be onboard for a slow burn development project. But when I read Kuminga threads, it's obvious that the fans who are watching the games haven't lost hope or interest, even outside of Golden State fans. Everyone knows he's a special talent. Most fans are extremely impatient so Kuminga isn't going to exempt from the hot take analysis or rush to call someone a bust. Ignore all that because it's a given. When focusing on insights from people who actually care enough, Kuminga has drawn a fair mix of praise, intrigue, and skepticism. He's been up and down but has always been an eye-popping talent.

I think this is an example of why social media is so bad for people. You tend to focus in on and remember the negative above the positive. That's what I thought of when I read the original post.

It's the same way someone complimented me on my passing in a pickup game the other day, but the only passes I remembered were the 2 stupid passes I made that were turnovers. It's just how the brain works.

[QingJames]

According to RealGM posters, Kuminga was already a bust since he was 19 years old getting limited playing time behind experienced veterans on a championship team last season.

And this year since Kuminga turned 20, he’s even more of a bust because he’s not already an All-Star before being of legal drinking age. Kuminga is not an elite shooter omg what a bust.

We’ve had threads on Kuminga before. Per the posters here, Warriors were dumb to draft him. We don’t care that he’s young, we already know that he’s going to be a bust.

It’s not that the Warriors were dumb to draft an extremely raw project while still trying to compete for a championship, it’s just that the pick looks terrible because of how much better Franz is. But Franz has made most of the picks ahead of him look bad.

[nfmos]

Kuminga has all the talent in the world but awful BBIQ and an inconsistent motor. He really does just needs to play and get reps but they're a team that is trying to win championships so when he continuously shows he's not ready they have to listen. Missed defensive assignments, ugly bricks, not running back in transition, etc. I think the Warriors should plan on him being the starter next year and move off of Wiggins though, no matter if they win the championship or not. He should be ready by then

I don't understand where this take comes from. Feels kind of lazily regurgitated. When I have watched Kuminga, I don't see any dramatic boneheaded plays. I see inexperience you would expect from a 20 year old.

Exactly, and as a Warriors fan who watches every game he plays, its obvious how much he has learned since coming into the league, and every game he gets a little better. He is getting so much better on cuts and positioning and every time he makes a mistake on defense you can tell he learns from it. Like you said, he's only 20, but he's on a nice learning curve right now and its an overreaction for people to say he needs to start now or else his development will stall. There will be plenty of minutes for him to play as he continues to improve.

[Warriorfan]

Warriors develop their players when they can afford to give them playing time.

[Revived]

According to RealGM posters, Kuminga was already a bust since he was 19 years old getting limited playing time behind experienced veterans on a championship team last season.

And this year since Kuminga turned 20, he’s even more of a bust because he’s not already an All-Star before being of legal drinking age. Kuminga is not an elite shooter omg what a bust.

We’ve had threads on Kuminga before. Per the posters here, Warriors were dumb to draft him. We don’t care that he’s young, we already know that he’s going to be a bust.

Eh those same posters said James Wiseman was a bust too so I guess their batting 50%

You should lower that percentage. Those same posters preach that 'kLaY is wAsHeD.

Eh they were probably following your guys lead

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Along with numerous Warriors fanblog sites and such writing articles that he was washed. Warriors fans were the loudest in saying Klay was washed more than any other fans.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

Last night was Kuminga’s 1st decent rebounding game in a long time. His body is perfect for rebounding but something is wrong with his brain for rebounding.

The kid still looks raw but he sure does have the tools to be a star eventually.

[HiRez]

Last night was Kuminga’s 1st decent rebounding game in a long time. His body is perfect for rebounding but something is wrong with his brain for rebounding.

The kid still looks raw but he sure does have the tools to be a star eventually.

He's making improvements there too (yes, slowly). One thing I noticed last night is a rebound he didn't even get credit for. He had outside position and realized he wouldn't be able to grab the rebound without an over the back foul, so he used his leaping ability to direct the ball to a teammate with a tip. Probably is learning that from Looney since he does it a lot but that's a good sign he's got some smarts and is willing to learn.

Don't get me wrong, he still has a lot of work to do there with better positioning for rebounds and being more aggressive securing the ball, but he is making progress. Compare to Andrew Wiggins for example. If you were to insert Kuminga's 2 seasons into Wiggins 11, Kuminga's would rank #1 and #2 for total rebounds per 36 minutes. Hell, he's not even drastically behind Kawhi in that stat at the same point in his career, and is very similar to where Jaylen Brown was in his second year. And he'll still be 20 until just before next season starts.

[TinmanZBoy]

His ceiling is Amare … but he has not progressed his skills the way Amare had

[Jadoogar]

In all honesty I think he and GS are at a weird crossroads. Dont get me wrong I loved the pick when they took him and I still do like the pick. But I do think Kuminga is pretty close to being at the point where he kind of just needs an unlimited leash. Once Curry and Wiggins come back, I dont see Kuminga still getting 25+ minutes. I think if Kuminga is to get to his ceiling, he needs to be locked in as a starter or someone who is getting 30+ minutes a night and you just live with the bumps and bruises that come along the way. And I just dont see that happening with this GS roster (this year or most likely next year as well). I do think he can be somewhat of an x factor in the playoffs (mainly with his on ball defense). But ya Im not sure he can reach full potential with this GS team.

I could see him getting more minutes next season if Draymond leaves. It's still going to be hard to let him play through mistakes because the Warriors will have higher aspirations as long as Curry is on the roster.

[jasonxxx102]

Every time someone compares him to Kawhi I lose a braincell. I already didn’t have that many to work with so can we please stop with the nonsense?

[Chris Porter's Hair]

Every time someone compares him to Kawhi I lose a braincell. I already didn’t have that many to work with so can we please stop with the nonsense?

I don't see a lot of point to such a comparison because it is just way too early, and few people develop the way Kawhi did. But if your point is that Kawhi clearly is much better than Kuminga will ever be, your comparison is roughly Kawhi's rookie year, when he averaged 8 points and 5 rebounds in 24 minutes. Kuminga's numbers are comparable. Slightly worse, on slightly fewer minutes. Which I think mostly means it is silly to pretend you know what a player is going to turn out to be when he's 19 or 20 years old and has limited experience.

Not that anyone on RealGM would do that, of course.

[Priest24]

Kum Bucket!

Top 10 worst nicknames for a player

You're being nice with top 10, or you accidentally added the 0. Pretty sure that's top 1 for the worst.

Maybe for one player but nothing will ever be more cringey than SexLand. Thankfully Gay Mayo never caught on in Memphis.

[formula 400]

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[jasonxxx102]

Every time someone compares him to Kawhi I lose a braincell. I already didn’t have that many to work with so can we please stop with the nonsense?

I don't see a lot of point to such a comparison because it is just way too early, and few people develop the way Kawhi did. But if your point is that Kawhi clearly is much better than Kuminga will ever be, your comparison is roughly Kawhi's rookie year, when he averaged 8 points and 5 rebounds in 24 minutes. Kuminga's numbers are comparable. Slightly worse, on slightly fewer minutes. Which I think mostly means it is silly to pretend you know what a player is going to turn out to be when he's 19 or 20 years old and has limited experience.

Not that anyone on RealGM would do that, of course.

No I mean there are absolutely no similarities in their game.

It’s a nonsensical comparison

[HiRez]

Kum Bucket!

Top 10 worst nicknames for a player

What's worse is it was GSW fans who coined it.

Actually, I think it was this guy reviewing the draft right afterwards. That's the first place I heard it, think I hurt a rib laughing.

(NSFW)

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IOtrJOkYwh4