Suns complain about Giannis FT attempts after hacking him all night. Footage included.

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Re: Suns complain about Giannis FT attempts after hacking him all night. Footage included. 

Post#21 » by The Real Dalic » Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:38 pm

I'd say two of those were very soft fouls that non Superstar players never get, and one of those fouls was a clear offensive foul on Giannis. But outside of those three, every other foul seemed correct. I'd say he should've finished with 18 free throws which would've still been more than the Suns got as a team.
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Re: Suns complain about Giannis FT attempts after hacking him all night. Footage included. 

Post#22 » by Texas Chuck » Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:49 pm

Its hilarious that someone would post number of drives and think the Suns guards are as difficult to contain in the paint as freighttraining Giannis.

He gets fouled a lot because he's a dominant force that teams don't have answers for. Suns have some great players obviously. Booker and KD are elite offensive players, but they don't put the same types of pressure on a defense as Giannis.

This is a non-story and while I get why Monty and Booker want to plant seeds with refs, that isn't actually a thing that works outside of a specific game and it just sets a loser and victim mentality within your team. I'd never engage in that as a coach or supposed leader.
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Re: Suns complain about Giannis FT attempts after hacking him all night. Footage included. 

Post#23 » by Lockdown504090 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:52 pm

theyre complaining about their own fts in relation to giannis. showing giannis earning fts isnt the point.
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Post#24 » by Harry Garris » Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:53 pm

Jay_Sizzle wrote:I don’t like the whining from Monty, but he does have a point. Probably still upset from the Luka appreciation party the refs pulled he other night. Stars have never got more calls than the last few years. Certain players expect a call on every play, and that is just not realistic in a neutrally officiated game.


What are you basing this on? Star players shoot less free throws today on average than they did in the past. League FTA per game as a whole has declined a lot in the 3 point shooting era.
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Post#25 » by greekbuck34 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:54 pm

Pre game show of the Suns: Giannis had 46 points against the Kings. He is unguardable. We have to make him feel it when he drives in the paint. Show him bodies and if he beat us, make him pay at least and send him to the FT line.

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Suns attempt to guard Giannis 1v1 with Ayton, Biyombo and other players that Giannis keeps abusing his whole career. Giannis attacks and assaults them non stop and only takes a few breaks in between because it's a b2b.

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Suns: We can't guard him without fouling him.

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Post#26 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:56 pm

Team full of soft, mid-range jump-shooters talks **** all game then cries about FT discrepancy after spending 48-minutes hacking the opposing team's star player because they literally can't defend him any other way. I mean, I guess I kinda get it. The Bucks absolutely own the Suns and at this point Booker probably feels his only recourse is to just whine to the refs every single time down the court (seriously, check the tape) before inevitably getting clamped up by Jrue Holiday in crunch time.
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Post#27 » by dockingsched » Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:58 pm

Few things are more annoying than fans or jump shooting teams that complain about FT discrepancy when all they do is foul the opposing team cause they can’t guard them.
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Post#28 » by Hitachi77 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:00 pm

4th one was such a clear offensive foul on Giannis it’s hard to see how the refs missed it, let alone call it defensive

1st one should have been a no call
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Post#29 » by Pythagoras » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:09 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Its hilarious that someone would post number of drives and think the Suns guards are as difficult to contain in the paint as freighttraining Giannis.


:-?

I asked a question:

me wrote:The issue is was Phoenix getting similar calls?


I also said:

me wrote:The issue isn’t the whistle Giannis gets, as yes, most of those looked like legit fouls.


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me wrote:Obviously, stats don’t always tell the whole story


I’m assuming since you found my post so hilarious that means you watched the game from start to finish and can attest the calls were completely fair?
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Post#30 » by ReddoverKobe » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:10 pm

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Karate Diop wrote:Suns are 100% right. The leeway Giannis gets from the referees has gotten to historically bad levels.

From the traveling to the fend offs to the hacking on defense and to the cheap shots on opponents, dude is governed by his own golden boy rule book that makes any unbiased fan sick.

Dude's good, there shouldn't be any need to bend the rules this badly to make him better.

Not even prime Bron got away with offensive fouls as much as Giannis. Mans doesn't even try to hide it anymore :lol:


Half of these are intentional fouls… like yanking his arm as he’s going up. Yes, it’s annoying to play against him sometimes because of the whistle, but he only does one thing offensively normally. That’s face up and just drive at you full speed. You’d think teams know this and would game plan for it?


This isn't a single game issue.


For sure, he destroys weak teams like the suns all the time.
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Post#31 » by sunsbg » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:13 pm

The first one as many said should be a no call, but that was called multiple times in 2021 finals too. That's why Monty was talking with the refs from that point on asking them how is Ayton supposed to defend him.
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Post#32 » by ReddoverKobe » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:14 pm

Watch Aytons 5th foul against lopez. That about sums up this entire dumb discussion and whining from the suns.
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Post#33 » by ITYSL » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:18 pm

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Uhhh. This video supports the Suns' complaints. Several of those clearly show that the defender was in position and Giannis initiated contact with his shoulder. Should have been offensive fouls or no-calls.
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Post#34 » by thomchatt3rton » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:20 pm

I don’t understand: do people believe the league is trying to prop up the *Milwaukee* Bucks? Is that the implication here?


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Post#35 » by PistolPeteJR » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:22 pm

Didn't watch the game, and not taking one side or the other, but it sounds like there's a lot of, "Watch the game, Giannis got legitimately fouled" responses. Perhaps what the Suns are trying to say is that they should have gotten a lot more calls that the refs didn't give them but gave to Giannis?
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Post#36 » by ReddoverKobe » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:22 pm

CoP wrote:
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Uhhh. This video supports the Suns' complaints. Several of those clearly show that the defender was in position and Giannis initiated contact with his shoulder. Should have been offensive fouls or no-calls.


No lol. He gets away with one charge, the rest of those are fouls. Come on now
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Post#37 » by dockingsched » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:31 pm

thomchatt3rton wrote:I don’t understand: do people believe the league is trying to prop up the *Milwaukee* Bucks? Is that implication here?


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Post#38 » by KGtabake » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:32 pm

Karate Diop wrote:Suns are 100% right. The leeway Giannis gets from the referees has gotten to historically bad levels.

From the traveling to the fend offs to the hacking on defense and to the cheap shots on opponents, dude is governed by his own golden boy rule book that makes any unbiased fan sick.

Dude's good, there shouldn't be any need to bend the rules this badly to make him better.

Not even prime Bron got away with offensive fouls as much as Giannis. Mans doesn't even try to hide it anymore :lol:


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Post#39 » by Jkam31 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:35 pm

PistolPeteJR wrote:Didn't watch the game, and not taking one side or the other, but it sounds like there's a lot of, "Watch the game, Giannis got legitimately fouled" responses. Perhaps what the Suns are trying to say is that they should have gotten a lot more calls that the refs didn't give them but gave to Giannis?


I watched it Giannis had two questionable called the rest Phoenix hacked him on purpose and proceeded to bitch about calls
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Post#40 » by ITYSL » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:35 pm

ReddoverKobe wrote:
CoP wrote:
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Read on Twitter

Uhhh. This video supports the Suns' complaints. Several of those clearly show that the defender was in position and Giannis initiated contact with his shoulder. Should have been offensive fouls or no-calls.


No lol. He gets away with one charge, the rest of those are fouls. Come on now

Booker said that "at least a couple of those can be called offensive fouls." I agree. There were probably three from that bunch that could have been no-calls or offensive fouls.

Giannis often gets calls in his favor on plays where he barges into defenders who are in position. It's been that way for years, and pretty much everyone acknowledges it except for some Bucks fans. It's not unique to him, of course, but he benefits.

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