Most Overrated Player in the Top 10

[Tracymcgoaty]

Jordan. Its not good enough that hes one of the top three players ever, and probably the goat for some people and instead they treat him as some mythical figure who only played six years, won six title, was on the best team ever but also had no help and excuse all of his actions as a teammate. It reminds me of the kids from sandlot talking about babe ruth.

Im curious because you always trash Jordan on here but what year did you start watching the nba?

Considering he was there when kids in the sandlot were talking about Babe Ruth im guessing....A lot longer than you.

[DrCoach]

In terms of individual skill its Russel.

[Sidthekid87]

I have a hard time believing curry isn't a top 10 player. Not really sure what more he has to do.

[ReddoverKobe]

Jordan. Its not good enough that hes one of the top three players ever, and probably the goat for some people and instead they treat him as some mythical figure who only played six years, won six title, was on the best team ever but also had no help and excuse all of his actions as a teammate. It reminds me of the kids from sandlot talking about babe ruth.

Im curious because you always trash Jordan on here but what year did you start watching the nba?

I've never trashed Jordan. In my opinion the worst you could rank him is three but I think he's still the GOAT. What I've never been able to stand is his cult tearing other people down to make him look better and its been going on for a long time. I also can't stand the unquantifible things like "heart of a champion" being used all the time.

[MavsDirk41]

Jordan. Its not good enough that hes one of the top three players ever, and probably the goat for some people and instead they treat him as some mythical figure who only played six years, won six title, was on the best team ever but also had no help and excuse all of his actions as a teammate. It reminds me of the kids from sandlot talking about babe ruth.

Im curious because you always trash Jordan on here but what year did you start watching the nba?

Considering he was there when kids in the sandlot were talking about Babe Ruth im guessing....A lot longer than you.

I think he is referring to the movie Sandlot….i assume you missed that one. ive been watching the nba since 87 so maybe he has maybe he hasnt

[MavsDirk41]

Jordan. Its not good enough that hes one of the top three players ever, and probably the goat for some people and instead they treat him as some mythical figure who only played six years, won six title, was on the best team ever but also had no help and excuse all of his actions as a teammate. It reminds me of the kids from sandlot talking about babe ruth.

Im curious because you always trash Jordan on here but what year did you start watching the nba?

I've never trashed Jordan. In my opinion the worst you could rank him is three but I think he's still the GOAT. What I've never been able to stand is his cult tearing other people down to make him look better and its been going on for a long time. I also can't stand the unquantifible things like "heart of a champion" being used all the time.

Wont argue with there being a Jordan cult on here but i tend to see more of a James cult on here than anything. Just this week there was a “when did James pass Duncan on the alltime list” and a “when did James pass Kobe on the alltime list.” Seems to me there is more of a lebron james groupie thing on here.

[ReddoverKobe]

Im curious because you always trash Jordan on here but what year did you start watching the nba?

I've never trashed Jordan. In my opinion the worst you could rank him is three but I think he's still the GOAT. What I've never been able to stand is his cult tearing other people down to make him look better and its been going on for a long time. I also can't stand the unquantifible things like "heart of a champion" being used all the time.

Wont argue with there being a Jordan cult on here but i tend to see more of a James cult on here than anything. Just this week there was a “when did James pass Duncan on the alltime list” and a “when did James pass Kobe on the alltime list.” Seems to me there is more of a lebron james groupie thing on here.

Sure, there is some of that I would agree.

[Reeko]

It's LeBron for me, but you can't say that around here anymore especially ever since he broke the all time scoring record. Great great great player, don't get me wrong, outstanding longevity. I just don't view him as a lock at #2. Top 6? Absolutely.

As for those people negging older guys like Magic and Bird for a lack of longevity, how do you think LeBron would have held up in the 80s when there was no load management culture? When guys couldn't afford to spend 2 million dollars a year on their bodies? When the supplements industry was not as widespread throughout the NBA? I bet you he wouldn't have played for 20 seasons and if by some miracle he did, I doubt he'd be playing the way he is today.

[Some smartguy]

If Russell is 4th here as the least talented player in the weakest era, the answer is right there

[WarriorGM]

I still marvel at how high people are on Magic. When Magic was clearly in charge of his team which was a superteam of his era he barely won over the upstart Bad Boy Pistons and never conclusively proved his Lakers were better. Now the Pistons were a great team but given the results how can one say Magic is much better than Isiah Thomas?

[DrCoach]

I still marvel at how high people are on Magic. When Magic was clearly in charge of his team which was a superteam of his era he barely won over the upstart Bad Boy Pistons and never conclusively proved his Lakers were better. Now the Pistons were a great team but given the results how can one say Magic is much better than Isiah Thomas?

More pts, asts, rebs, wins, rings. And thats with retiring early

[PhilBlackson]

It's Russell for me, sorry but idgaf what any supposed historian says.

[dakomish23]

Idk if Hakeem is top 10

On talent I’d put KD in the mix or just right outside the top 10. He’s just never won it all without GSW so that holds him back fair or unfair

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Out that list prolly Magic he was jus an oversized PG, a player playing out of position Kuz he could pass..in this era he would b getting the Ben simmons treatment with ppl talking bout why he ain't shootin the ball more.. maybe Kuz he cant shoot obviously I'm exaggerating but if I had to pick one I would go with him

You clearly never once watched Magic Johnson play in a single NBA game. You have literally no idea what you're talking about.

[NZB2323]

I still marvel at how high people are on Magic. When Magic was clearly in charge of his team which was a superteam of his era he barely won over the upstart Bad Boy Pistons and never conclusively proved his Lakers were better. Now the Pistons were a great team but given the results how can one say Magic is much better than Isiah Thomas?

That’s like saying,

“Given the results, how can one say Kobe is much better than Chauncey Billups?”

“Given the results, how can one say Shaq is much better than Luol Deng?”

“Given the results, how can one say Lebron is much better than Devin Booker?”

“Given the results, how can one say Duncan is much better than Zach Randolph?”

Isiah Thomas is probably the most overrated player in NBA history.

1989 playoffs:

Isiah: 18, 8, and 4, 48.1 TS%, 18.6 PER
Magic: 18, 12, and 6, 62.5 TS%, 26.9 PER

[Sofia]

If overrated means a couple of spots down the list…

I think that Magic and Bird should be in the top 10, but they sometimes feel “overrated”, because they were the best in an era. I think that they can potentially fall off the top 10 rather soon and some people seem to see them as untouchables. Both of them have poor longevity and both of them didn’t peak higher than a guy like Curry in my opinion. They probably didn’t peak higher than Durant. And not higher than Giannis or Jokic (at least RS) Is their peak form for sure top 10 peak of all time? Because the longevity is certainly not top 10.

People have a tendency to give Magic a top 5 spot by default and have Bird soon after and it sometimes feel like it’s also about their aura, their rivalry and what they did for the sport.

Yeah this is how I approached it too. It’s a little less prominent now, but the number of times I saw Magic in 4 (often with Kobe at 5 fwiw) really blew my mind. I think Magic v Bird is an interesting debate, because as good as McHale is, he’s certainly no Kareem, yet there wasn’t a huge chasm between the accolades of Bird and Magic.

I think Magic should be closer to the end of the top 10, where Bird is usually placed.

[2020]

Olajuwon is the first guy I'd take out of this top 10, though his two-year peak might be a top-five peak.

You honestly don't believe that Hakeem >>> Bill Russell in the 60s and 90s

[NZB2323]

If overrated means a couple of spots down the list…

I think that Magic and Bird should be in the top 10, but they sometimes feel “overrated”, because they were the best in an era. I think that they can potentially fall off the top 10 rather soon and some people seem to see them as untouchables. Both of them have poor longevity and both of them didn’t peak higher than a guy like Curry in my opinion. They probably didn’t peak higher than Durant. And not higher than Giannis or Jokic (at least RS) Is their peak form for sure top 10 peak of all time? Because the longevity is certainly not top 10.

People have a tendency to give Magic a top 5 spot by default and have Bird soon after and it sometimes feel like it’s also about their aura, their rivalry and what they did for the sport.

Yeah this is how I approached it too. It’s a little less prominent now, but the number of times I saw Magic in 4 (often with Kobe at 5 fwiw) really blew my mind. I think Magic v Bird is an interesting debate, because as good as McHale is, he’s certainly no Kareem, yet there wasn’t a huge chasm between the accolades of Bird and Magic.

I think Magic should be closer to the end of the top 10, where Bird is usually placed.

Magic has more accolades than Bird based off of what happened from 1987-1991, when Kareem was 39, 40, and retired.

[2020]

Olajuwon is the first guy I'd take out of this top 10, though his two-year peak might be a top-five peak.

You honestly don't believe that Hakeem >>> Bill Russell in the 60s and 90s

I think Russell is the most overrated because of the very skewed 13 rings. Ya'll really think Russell would have won a ring on a team other than the Celtics?

[formula 400]

LOL when did Duncan make the top 10????? only on this board smh