And it begins: Beal will not play because of back problems

whatisacenter · Post #21 » by **whatisacenter** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:20 pm

og15 wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:This is why you dont anoint champions before the season has started...

i don't think anybody was crowning the suns at all even before this news. most power rankings have them at #4, behind Nug Celts and Bucks, and health was one of the reasons. would have been great to at least be fully healthy on day friggin one tho.

Also, this news is that he is missing game, not that he suffered a significant injury and is out for the year, so even if people were crowning them, this specific situation in October wouldn't change anything.

whatisacenter wrote:so this opener may be without Draymond, Brad and Devin....

When did they say Booker could be out? Thought the report was just that he had a toe injury, but NBD in terms of effect on playing.

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ReddoverKobe · Post #22 » by **ReddoverKobe** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:25 pm

Oof...

tamaraw08 · Post #23 » by **tamaraw08** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:31 pm

flranger wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:so this opener may be without Draymond, Brad and Devin....

New rules working out just as expected

I just don't think the league can really judge if a player is legitimately in pain or not. Even MRI results can reveal inconclusive but that doesn't mean a person is not really in pain or he is just faking it.
That is why I am proposing that the league will just make the win/loss record matter so much. The higher seed get as many as 5 home games while the lower seed get 2 in a 7 game series.

spanishninja · Post #24 » by **spanishninja** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:32 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
og15 wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
i don't think anybody was crowning the suns at all even before this news. most power rankings have them at #4, behind Nug Celts and Bucks, and health was one of the reasons. would have been great to at least be fully healthy on day friggin one tho.

Also, this news is that he is missing game, not that he suffered a significant injury and is out for the year, so even if people were crowning them, this specific situation in October wouldn't change anything.

It would reaffirm that injury prone player is already missing a game on a paper thin depth rotation.

our depth is fine especially at the guard position. course it won't be good if he's done for the season but Gordon and Allen can step in once in a while.

Post #25 » by **Duffman100** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:46 pm

spanishninja wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
og15 wrote:Also, this news is that he is missing game, not that he suffered a significant injury and is out for the year, so even if people were crowning them, this specific situation in October wouldn't change anything.

It would reaffirm that injury prone player is already missing a game on a paper thin depth rotation.

our depth is fine especially at the guard position. course it won't be good if he's done for the season but Gordon and Allen can step in once in a while.

Eric Gordon is also not the pillar of health either. I do like Grayson Allen (his ability, not his general demeanour :lol:

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GameOver25 · Post #26 » by **GameOver25** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:47 pm

What's new? Beal is always injured.

chilluminati · Post #27 » by **chilluminati** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:53 pm

Lots of doomsayers in here, lets count them out after we actually see the team play/see how long Beal will miss. As of that report, it's just this game. I know recovering from anything spinal is tough, but I'm only looking at the reported facts.

spanishninja · Post #28 » by **spanishninja** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:15 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
It would reaffirm that injury prone player is already missing a game on a paper thin depth rotation.

our depth is fine especially at the guard position. course it won't be good if he's done for the season but Gordon and Allen can step in once in a while.

Eric Gordon is also not the pillar of health either. I do like Grayson Allen (his ability, not his general demeanour )

I do think one of those guys will work fine on any given day, but not for extended duration of course so hope Beal isn't out too long.

Post #29 » by **og15** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:22 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
og15 wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
i don't think anybody was crowning the suns at all even before this news. most power rankings have them at #4, behind Nug Celts and Bucks, and health was one of the reasons. would have been great to at least be fully healthy on day friggin one tho.

Also, this news is that he is missing game, not that he suffered a significant injury and is out for the year, so even if people were crowning them, this specific situation in October wouldn't change anything.

It would reaffirm that injury prone player is already missing a game on a paper thin depth rotation.

Like I mentioned in the game thread, Beal has played like 40-60 games for the last 4 years. If people somehow felt that without proof of him having a healthy season we should assume he's going to be healthy, I'm not sure what to tell them. I don't think we needed this early season injury to know what kind of player he is health wise.

People should have based any prediction of the Suns on the reality that he's an injury prone player and that KD is older and less durable. If they overcome that, great, but we can only predict based on the reality we've been given so far.

It's almost (not quite there) like predicting the Clippers success on an assumption that Kawhi is healthy all season and through the playoffs, I'll believe it when I see it.

whatisacenter wrote:
og15 wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
i don't think anybody was crowning the suns at all even before this news. most power rankings have them at #4, behind Nug Celts and Bucks, and health was one of the reasons. would have been great to at least be fully healthy on day friggin one tho.

Also, this news is that he is missing game, not that he suffered a significant injury and is out for the year, so even if people were crowning them, this specific situation in October wouldn't change anything.

whatisacenter wrote:so this opener may be without Draymond, Brad and Devin....

When did they say Booker could be out? Thought the report was just that he had a toe injury, but NBD in terms of effect on playing.

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That sucks.

JustBuzzin · Post #30 » by **JustBuzzin** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:16 pm

Im convinced KD is cursed. He sold his soul for those 2 championships. Since then he's been on superteams and all of them have been a failure for whatever reason.

Suns are cooked if any of the big 3 go down with a injury.

Exp0sed · Post #31 » by **Exp0sed** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:17 pm

Clyde Frazier wrote:#PaperChamps until proven otherwise

nah, they were "paper champs" only before the Dame and Holiday trades
even on paper, both the Bucks and the C's are just better top to bottom imo

DonaldSanders · Post #32 » by **DonaldSanders** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:25 pm

Book says he is playing.

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C'mon guys, should still be fun, each team with one guy out. I for one am salivating at all the NBA action finally returning!

SlovenianDragon · Post #33 » by **SlovenianDragon** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:28 pm

We are fine...our bench blew out the lakers...

So either our bench is good or the lakers suck...maybe a bit of both...

levon · Post #34 » by **levon** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:41 pm

SlovenianDragon wrote:We are fine...our bench blew out the lakers...

So either our bench is good or the lakers suck...maybe a bit of both...

A third possibility: preseason garbage time in which your bench beat a lineup of Cam Reddish at PG. But go off, king.

Phoenix has enough redundancy at guard/wing to tolerate 1 of their big 3 going down at any one time. They're basically Nets West now. I'd be more concerned if Eubanks was to miss significant time or something.

Dr Aki · Post #35 » by **Dr Aki** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:12 pm

Too much carrying

CDM_Stats · Post #36 » by **CDM_Stats** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:15 pm

6 months until it actually matters if he's out

Phystic · Post #37 » by **Phystic** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:16 pm

Dang some real dramatic people here

Post #38 » by **og15** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:19 pm

flranger wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:so this opener may be without Draymond, Brad and Devin....

New rules working out just as expected

I don't think the new rules said, "players are not allowed to be injured" lol

CDM_Stats wrote:6 months until it actually matters if he's out

Yea, if this was April and it was, "Beal out for game 1 of the first round", then different story. Sure, any prediction of the Suns has to take into account their ability to be healthy, but a minor injury to start the season isn't a big deal.

BrianFitz · Post #39 » by **BrianFitz** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:15 pm

CodeBreaker wrote:Glad we didn't get him

That's been the Heat fans mantra all off season.

PHXCavaliers · Post #40 » by **PHXCavaliers** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:23 pm

levon wrote:
SlovenianDragon wrote:We are fine...our bench blew out the lakers...

So either our bench is good or the lakers suck...maybe a bit of both...

A third possibility: preseason garbage time in which your bench beat a lineup of Cam Reddish at PG. But go off, king.

Phoenix has enough redundancy at guard/wing to tolerate 1 of their big 3 going down at any one time. They're basically Nets West now. I'd be more concerned if Eubanks was to miss significant time or something.

Easy guy... you cant discredit beating "Cam Reddish at PG" and in the same breath say Eubanks is vital to the suns success. either the end of the bench matters or it doesnt....

Suns in 4