What is a TRAVEL in the NBA?

nomansland · Post #21 » by **nomansland** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:03 pm

CIN-C-STAR wrote:The first step he uses to push off into his 1-2 step back is treated as a gather step, even though yes it technically was after the gather.
In the NBA you get a 3rd step called a gather step, where by rule they don't count the step that occurs with the gather. However, even that lax rule gets enforced laxly, like here, so you can gather and then take 3 steps so long as the first step occurs reasonably soon after the gather.

You forgot about 4th gather and elevensies.

lambchop · Post #22 » by **lambchop** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:46 pm

nomansland wrote:
CIN-C-STAR wrote:The first step he uses to push off into his 1-2 step back is treated as a gather step, even though yes it technically was after the gather.
In the NBA you get a 3rd step called a gather step, where by rule they don't count the step that occurs with the gather. However, even that lax rule gets enforced laxly, like here, so you can gather and then take 3 steps so long as the first step occurs reasonably soon after the gather.

You forgot about 4th gather and elevensies.

We've had multiple threads on this. But this is how the gather step actually works. I can provide FIBA examples later, but these videos show how the rules actually work in real life.

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vital_signs · Post #23 » by **vital_signs** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:52 pm

pipfan wrote:This is what I dislike most about the league right now-the ignoring of obvious travels and carries. It's really getting out of hand

Not sure if it was intentional, but solid word play

eyeatoma · Post #24 » by **eyeatoma** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:57 pm

Giannis does it alot.

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vital_signs · Post #25 » by **vital_signs** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:59 pm

eyeatoma wrote:Giannis does it alot.

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eyeatoma · Post #26 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon Dec 25, 2023 12:18 am

vital_signs wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Giannis does it alot.

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vital_signs · Post #27 » by **vital_signs** » Mon Dec 25, 2023 12:24 am

eyeatoma wrote:
vital_signs wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Giannis does it alot.

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eyeatoma · Post #28 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon Dec 25, 2023 12:42 am

vital_signs wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
vital_signs wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Ah right, so you know that he traveled there.

vital_signs · Post #29 » by **vital_signs** » Mon Dec 25, 2023 12:52 am

eyeatoma wrote:
vital_signs wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Ah right, so you know that he traveled there.

Traveling has not been called in the NBA for as long as I've been watching, you're just calling our your Father for doing it. Merry Xmas, it's a joke.

perempe20 · Post #30 » by **perempe20** » Mon Dec 25, 2023 12:58 am

they should call travel after blocked dunk attempts as well.

dk1115 · Post #31 » by **dk1115** » Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:13 am

I feel like this play dirties up the NBA a lot, but you pretty much can't call it on technicality in real time. I watched it 5 times on replay, and still can't even tell whether it's travel. But yeah, I really hate watching this type of play when I'm at the gym. Don't know if it's travel, can't even call it if it is.

SerialChiller · Post #32 » by **SerialChiller** » Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:20 am

mediocrityrules wrote:The step-back is one play that has always confused me in regards to a travel. It always looks like an extra step, but because the gather step can be fairly obscured it makes it hard to gauge (well, some more than others).

It never confused me till I seen Harden make a career out of taking like 3 gather steps it's absolutely ridiculous hahaha

Lockdown504090 · Post #33 » by **Lockdown504090** » Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:54 am

eyeatoma wrote:
vital_signs wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Ah right, so you know that he traveled there.

You can’t travel with a live dribble.

SweaterBae · Post #34 » by **SweaterBae** » Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:03 am

The definition of a dribble dictates that it is a travel, but because those calls can be so close the refs these days allow the first foot to land after the ball has returned to the player's hand without considering it in regards to what happens next.

In reality, we know it's by the rules 100% a travel because the ball returns to his hand before that first foot hits the floor, but they don't call it anymore. And ofc he sneaks in the extra toe tap to rhythm up for the stepback. It's ann obvious travel in basically every way.

SweaterBae · Post #35 » by **SweaterBae** » Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:11 am

Lockdown504090 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
vital_signs wrote:

Ah right, so you know that he traveled there.

You can’t travel with a live dribble.

It's still 3 steps. You're right that people don't seem to understand that you can dance around like Ali while the dribble is live, but that ball returns to his hand after it kinda gets away from him and 3 footfalls later he dunks it. Travel.

Post #36 » by **og15** » Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:33 am

Step backs confuse people because we see using gather steps going forward as having different rules than going backwards, so when players go backwards doing the same things they do forwardz we get weirded out.

Ater he gathers the ball, he takes two steps, nothing really exciting on this one.

Karate Diop · Post #37 » by **Karate Diop** » Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:34 am

I went down this rabbit hole and confused myself... but basically Gen Z doesn't believe in traveling violations.

Hatrick Ewing · Post #38 » by **Hatrick Ewing** » Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:58 am

Traveling is for flight attendants.

Johnny Bball · Post #39 » by **Johnny Bball** » Mon Dec 25, 2023 3:12 am

4 steps is a travel. That's what its become.

SNPA · Post #40 » by **SNPA** » Mon Dec 25, 2023 3:18 am

Johnny Bball wrote:4 steps is a travel. That's what its become.

This.

Giannis did it in 4, when it took Brewer 5.

Is this a legal basketball move?