OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft

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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#21 » by ROballer » Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:23 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:I think ideally they'd like to move Giddey and those picks for Mitchell or Trae in the offseason. Trae seems doable, Mitchell would be better, but it's hard to see him agreeing to commit to Oklahoma City. Either way, those picks are going to be far more valuable as a trade asset than they are in the form of the players they would select. Their rotation is pretty solidified.



Lol. Shai is hogging the ball like there's no tomorrow, they're not adding another guy who needs the ball in their hands.
Just not happening.

Part of the reason Giddey has not worked out is because he's a PG who doesn't get the ball. He's not a star but will look much better for any team he gets traded to if he's played at the his real position, PG.

And they're not getting guys who can't play without the ball, if that were the case they wouldn't try to trade Giddey in the first place.


Look for the Bridges mold, more 3D guys who can score a bit but within the flow of the offense.
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#22 » by HadAnEffectHere » Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:55 pm

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HadAnEffectHere wrote:Utah's pick is top 10 protected and Utah is currently tanking to keep their pick.

Utah isn't making alot of sense. They were among the top records in the west over a large sample size, but decided to tank for a 10th pick in a weak draft instead? :crazy:

And seeing that's their plan, why didn't they trade Clarkson and Sexton at the deadline?


Clarkson is having a horrible season and had no value, they didn't get the deal they wanted for Sexton it seems.

The Jazz are trying to tank, but also sell high on all of their vets and it's really weird and not getting them very valuable assets.
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#23 » by Bobbymcgee » Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:57 pm

OKC should keep the picks and add them to their roster. Then, see what they got and go from there. They are going to need guys on cheap contracts to fill out their roster once they have to pay Chet and Jalen Williams max contracts.
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#24 » by Johnny Bball » Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:58 pm

KingFox wrote:Two lottery picks for this OKC team is insane :lol: Presti is amazing


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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#25 » by ValvPiti » Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:59 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:I think ideally they'd like to move Giddey and those picks for Mitchell or Trae in the offseason. Trae seems doable, Mitchell would be better, but it's hard to see him agreeing to commit to Oklahoma City. Either way, those picks are going to be far more valuable as a trade asset than they are in the form of the players they would select. Their rotation is pretty solidified.

Wait, what? Have you seen an actual game by OKC lately? More ballhandling and guard play is exactly what they dont need - there's a reason why Giddey is redundant and thats because of Jalen Williams and Shai. What they need is wings who can defend and shoot and especially big men - best case scenario a stretch 4/5 type of guy like Markkanen or Towns.
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#26 » by NyKnicks1714 » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:16 pm

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NyKnicks1714 wrote:I think ideally they'd like to move Giddey and those picks for Mitchell or Trae in the offseason. Trae seems doable, Mitchell would be better, but it's hard to see him agreeing to commit to Oklahoma City. Either way, those picks are going to be far more valuable as a trade asset than they are in the form of the players they would select. Their rotation is pretty solidified.

Wait, what? Have you seen an actual game by OKC lately? More ballhandling and guard play is exactly what they dont need - there's a reason why Giddey is redundant and thats because of Jalen Williams and Shai. What they need is wings who can defend and shoot and especially big men - best case scenario a stretch 4/5 type of guy like Markkanen or Towns.


I think Trae has it in him to become a good off-ball player, really don't dislike the fit with him and SGA. Markkanen would be a great get for them but I don't think Presti will be willing to match Ainge's demands.
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#27 » by ValvPiti » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:29 pm

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NyKnicks1714 wrote:I think ideally they'd like to move Giddey and those picks for Mitchell or Trae in the offseason. Trae seems doable, Mitchell would be better, but it's hard to see him agreeing to commit to Oklahoma City. Either way, those picks are going to be far more valuable as a trade asset than they are in the form of the players they would select. Their rotation is pretty solidified.

Wait, what? Have you seen an actual game by OKC lately? More ballhandling and guard play is exactly what they dont need - there's a reason why Giddey is redundant and thats because of Jalen Williams and Shai. What they need is wings who can defend and shoot and especially big men - best case scenario a stretch 4/5 type of guy like Markkanen or Towns.


I think Trae has it in him to become a good off-ball player, really don't dislike the fit with him and SGA. Markkanen would be a great get for them but I don't think Presti will be willing to match Ainge's demands.

No shot OKC is trading for young with two prolific ball handlers. Shai is MVP-level playing the same position (altho you can argue he is a SG), and when he is sitting, offence runs through Jalen. They really are covered in that aspect and Trae is just such a minus defensively..

And I was speaking more of what kind of player type they were needing, not necessarily Markkanen or Towns. You just want to get bigger and still get the shooting, so you can throw a lineup out there with SGA, Dort (who I dont like, but whatever), Williams, Chet and a big dude who can play.
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#28 » by Sealab2024 » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:32 pm

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ValvPiti wrote:
NyKnicks1714 wrote:I think ideally they'd like to move Giddey and those picks for Mitchell or Trae in the offseason. Trae seems doable, Mitchell would be better, but it's hard to see him agreeing to commit to Oklahoma City. Either way, those picks are going to be far more valuable as a trade asset than they are in the form of the players they would select. Their rotation is pretty solidified.

Wait, what? Have you seen an actual game by OKC lately? More ballhandling and guard play is exactly what they dont need - there's a reason why Giddey is redundant and thats because of Jalen Williams and Shai. What they need is wings who can defend and shoot and especially big men - best case scenario a stretch 4/5 type of guy like Markkanen or Towns.


I think Trae has it in him to become a good off-ball player, really don't dislike the fit with him and SGA. Markkanen would be a great get for them but I don't think Presti will be willing to match Ainge's demands.


That's an interesting thought though. If you begin with Giddy and 2 lottery picks, even in a bad year, how much more are you gonna have to offer? Would 2 more, likely in the 20's, 1sts do it?
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#29 » by timO » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:35 pm

has nothing sure, they could be 0 picks

utah is going to tank easily to top 10 or lower, they trade olynyk for that

houston can win lottery
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#30 » by Wingy » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:37 pm

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NyKnicks1714 wrote:I think ideally they'd like to move Giddey and those picks for Mitchell or Trae in the offseason. Trae seems doable, Mitchell would be better, but it's hard to see him agreeing to commit to Oklahoma City. Either way, those picks are going to be far more valuable as a trade asset than they are in the form of the players they would select. Their rotation is pretty solidified.


Lol. Shai is hogging the ball like there's no tomorrow, they're not adding another guy who needs the ball in their hands.
Just not happening.

Part of the reason Giddey has not worked out is because he's a PG who doesn't get the ball. He's not a star but will look much better for any team he gets traded to if he's played at the his real position, PG.

And they're not getting guys who can't play without the ball, if that were the case they wouldn't try to trade Giddey in the first place.


Look for the Bridges mold, more 3D guys who can score a bit but within the flow of the offense.


Gonna be interesting once and if they theoretically consolidate their pick haul and perhaps some young players into the promised move people think Presti’s waiting for. Say it’s Giannis, or Luka. Even a Mitchell. Does it even work pairing guys like that with SGA and only one ball? It barely worked with an even greater player (prime Lebron) at the helm of the Heatles. I could however see Presti assembling a better supporting cast than them with his strong drafting acumen. Feels like they’ll likely land in a whole is less than its parts situation, but it’s fascinating to see how it’s going to play out. I think a guy like Mikal Bridges is perfect for their current group, but of course the Nets would have to be willing to dance.
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#31 » by NyKnicks1714 » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:40 pm

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NyKnicks1714 wrote:I think ideally they'd like to move Giddey and those picks for Mitchell or Trae in the offseason. Trae seems doable, Mitchell would be better, but it's hard to see him agreeing to commit to Oklahoma City. Either way, those picks are going to be far more valuable as a trade asset than they are in the form of the players they would select. Their rotation is pretty solidified.


Lol. Shai is hogging the ball like there's no tomorrow, they're not adding another guy who needs the ball in their hands.
Just not happening.

Part of the reason Giddey has not worked out is because he's a PG who doesn't get the ball. He's not a star but will look much better for any team he gets traded to if he's played at the his real position, PG.

And they're not getting guys who can't play without the ball, if that were the case they wouldn't try to trade Giddey in the first place.


Look for the Bridges mold, more 3D guys who can score a bit but within the flow of the offense.


Gonna be interesting once and if they theoretically consolidate their pick haul and perhaps some young players into the promised move people think Presti’s waiting for. Say it’s Giannis, or Luka. Even a Mitchell. Does it even work pairing guys like that with SGA and only one ball? It barely worked with an even greater player (prime Lebron) at the helm of the Heatles. I could however see Presti assembling a better supporting cast than them with his strong drafting acumen. Feels like they’ll likely land in a whole is less than its parts situation, but it’s fascinating to see how it’s going to play out. I think a guy like Mikal Bridges is perfect for their current group, but of course the Nets would have to be willing to dance.



Bridges would be a great fit but Brooklyn reportedly turned down 4 1sts for him last season.
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#32 » by Iwasawitness » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:40 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:I think ideally they'd like to move Giddey and those picks for Mitchell or Trae in the offseason. Trae seems doable, Mitchell would be better, but it's hard to see him agreeing to commit to Oklahoma City. Either way, those picks are going to be far more valuable as a trade asset than they are in the form of the players they would select. Their rotation is pretty solidified.


I think Mitchell would be thrilled to go to OKC when you consider how insane their future is. I just don't think Cleveland agrees to that trade.
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#33 » by ChettheJet » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:41 pm

GSWFan1994 wrote:San Antonio could have 2 lottery picks as well. Theirs and Toronto (top 6 protected).

Also Portland, theirs and Golden State (top 4 protected).


While I agree Picks are overrated they aren't worthless

SAS, PORT and OKC are in 3 different situations.

OKC really has no place to put a lottery pick in their rotation much less 2, they have a bunch of young players who have been gaining NBA experience and should move up. All two draftees can do is sit on the bench or play in the G League. What they could probably use more are two veterans, one a starter and one a role player off the bench to mix in with the guys they've got.

Nobody will like it but trade Giddey and their best pick to the Bulls for their pick and Alex Caruso. Don't tell me they don't need defense look at the fact that Caruso is currently the the Bulls top 3pt% shooter.

Alternately they could do a S&T with the same Giddey and pick swap as they S&T for Demar DeRozan. That's basically how the Bulls signed him from SAS. Either deal jump starts OKC to advance farther in the playoffs.

I don't get how PORT is as bad as they are. With Brogdan, Thybiulle and Sharpe on the bench they should be doing something. It's just me but, if it's even legal, if they can sign Demar DeRozan in a S&T and take their own pick back for Brogdan and one of their picks they get a SF to score and be a leader. Getting their own pick back gives them more flexibility in including picks in trades going forward through 2029.

With the SAS Pops demonstrates an extra level of respect for Demar DeRozan when the two teams play. If Demar was interested in getting back together the Spurs could return the Bulls 2025 pick as part of the bargain. That provides Wemby with a veteran leader who takes some of the nightly scoring pressure off the youngster and maybe they get closer tot he play in sooner.
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#34 » by NyKnicks1714 » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:45 pm

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NyKnicks1714 wrote:I think ideally they'd like to move Giddey and those picks for Mitchell or Trae in the offseason. Trae seems doable, Mitchell would be better, but it's hard to see him agreeing to commit to Oklahoma City. Either way, those picks are going to be far more valuable as a trade asset than they are in the form of the players they would select. Their rotation is pretty solidified.


I think Mitchell would be thrilled to go to OKC when you consider how insane their future is. I just don't think Cleveland agrees to that trade.


I think he'd be more thrilled to go to Miami, LA, or NYC, unless he truly does value winning above all else, including location. Otherwise I feel like one of those 5 teams could make it work.
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#35 » by Sealab2024 » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:48 pm

This is where it gets interesting though. There's only about 2-3 dozen guys league wide that are untouchable. With OKC's picks everyone else in the league becomes gettable, if you really want it.

I do think they stay with this core and try to augment it with plus role players around SGA Jalen and Chet. If I were them I'd be eyeing young big men with athleticism and shooting ability that can rebound. Pretty much anyone fitting that profile is within their reach.
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#36 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:55 pm

Pharmcat wrote:Picks are overrated

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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#37 » by Wingy » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:57 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:Bridges would be a great fit but Brooklyn reportedly turned down 4 1sts for him last season.


I heard that one, but it really depends on what picks, protections, etc. To me, Bridges's value is immense. There's only a small sliver of players that clearly outweigh his overall value. I'm thinking legit superstars (the All NBA 1st teamers), young locked-in bonafide all stars (think ANT, Hali), then rookie deal all stars or obvious potential to be (Maxey,Paolo, Chet types). After those basically priceless kind of players, he's right there w/anyone else.

Regardless, even if the Nets got a worthy high value offer, I get the feeling they've got too much of the Arturas Karnisovas gene in their FO where they have no real plan and are just stunned/shocked to paralysis and delusional about their current situation.
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#38 » by donemilio21 » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:57 pm

they could also trade those picks for future picks and use those as currency for future trades.
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#39 » by dirkforpres » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:57 pm

Im not surprised theyre liekly keeping the picks. No team should be trying to tank for any of these prospects.

I imagine Presti just looks to turn those picks into future picks. This draft is garbage and they would inevitably be drafting the 9th or 10th guy in the lineup with those picks and the amount of depth they already have on the roster.
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Re: OKC has two lottery picks in the upcoming draft 

Post#40 » by Wingy » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:59 pm

Sealab2024 wrote:This is where it gets interesting though. There's only about 2-3 dozen guys league wide that are untouchable. With OKC's picks everyone else in the league becomes gettable, if you really want it.

I do think they stay with this core and try to augment it with plus role players around SGA Jalen and Chet. If I were them I'd be eyeing young big men with athleticism and shooting ability that can rebound. Pretty much anyone fitting that profile is within their reach.


At some point I think they should overpay (within reason) for some guy(s) of this ilk. Waiting forever for some ill-fitting, ball dominant superstar doesn't seem like a great plan to me.

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