Is Chet Holmgren better than Evan Mobley?

tmorgan · Post #21 » by **tmorgan** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:00 pm

Mobley is better defensively, but given that he has more experience, that may not last. He’s also a better rebounder, especially considering who he plays with compared to Chet.

Chet’s an entirely different class of offensive player, though. Some on ball creation which should improve further, a better shot and better range.

I’d take Chet slightly right now, and more than slightly for the future, with the caveat that Mobley is just slightly thin and Chet is a toothpick. There’s a bigger injury risk there.

Put it this way — Cleveland would be all over that exchange, and OKC would have no interest at all.

Shock Defeat · Post #22 » by **Shock Defeat** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:23 pm

Mobley hasn't improved but there's no guarantee Chet will either

toooskies · Post #23 » by **toooskies** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:15 pm

Mobley's progress over the past few years is only slow if you look at the headline numbers. His scoring, rebounding, assists, steals, FG%, 3PFG%, FT%, TS% have all made good progress year-over-year. But because he was injured a few times, his minute restrictions causes his totals to drop slightly. He's made some progress on his shooting to the point where his percentages were good but the volume needs to take some steps to be "real".

Swish77 · Post #24 » by **Swish77** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:20 pm

Chet by far. I believe Mobley is on the wrong team tbh. He needs to be on a team where he's the main guy center wise. Just like Chet is.

Niko23 · Post #25 » by **Niko23** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:27 pm

Plutonashfan wrote:
God Squad wrote:Mobley's lack of development is concerning, particularly on the offensive side of the ball.

I blame it on our terrible coaching staff.

Its probably why JB is gone, regardless if we sneak out of the first round because we will get swept by Boston. Mobley has no strength and plays scared. Really sad that we screwed him up

Alatan · Post #26 » by **Alatan** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:30 pm

Why is this even a question? Are there people that have doubts about this?

liquidswords · Post #27 » by **liquidswords** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:36 pm

lol 100% - mobley is the same player he was when he was drafted and Chet is already better

Iwasawitness · Post #28 » by **Iwasawitness** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:16 pm

Mobley is better defensively, but Chet is so much better offensively to the point where Mobley doesn't really have an argument over him, despite Chet still technically being a rookie.

But what really gets me is that despite the fact that Chet is much skinnier and more fragile looking than Chet, it still feels like Chet plays a more physical style. Chet also feels much more in tune and control over his mechanics. I never feel like he's stumbling around or anything when he's got the ball. When Mobley has it I'm legitimately worried he's going to lose it.

I don't really know who will be the better player going forward. I still believe (not that I want it to come to fruition) that unless Chet seriously bulks up over the next few years, he is going to suffer from a multitude of health problems from trying to play in the NBA at the rate that he does. We've already seen a bit of that with Evan so far in his NBA career and I'm hoping that it improves.

liquidswords wrote:lol 100% - mobley is the same player he was when he was drafted and Chet is already better

Let's stop with this horrible take already. I've seen so many people say it and I don't understand why. It simply isn't true.

iggymcfrack · Post #29 » by **iggymcfrack** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:33 pm

Well this is pretty unanimous. As it should be considering Chet is borderline all-NBA as a rookie and Mobley is borderline looking like he should come off the bench in Year 3.

Bornstellar · Post #30 » by **Bornstellar** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:44 pm

I'd take Chet over Mobley every day of the week and twice on Sundays. He has already had similar defensive impact while flashing way more of a higher ceiling on offense

Plutonashfan · Post #31 » by **Plutonashfan** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:46 pm

Niko23 wrote:
Plutonashfan wrote:
God Squad wrote:Mobley's lack of development is concerning, particularly on the offensive side of the ball.

I blame it on our terrible coaching staff.

Its probably why JB is gone, regardless if we sneak out of the first round because we will get swept by Boston. Mobley has no strength and plays scared. Really sad that we screwed him up

It's not only him look at DG and Okoro they all regressed.

Post #32 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:51 pm

wow never expected to see those votes. I don't think I would do a Chet/Mobley swap right now but I still like Mobley's chances to become the better player. Mobley would have a bigger impact if he was Thunder Center...his lack of shooting is the issue though

Ayt · Post #33 » by **Ayt** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:35 am

Shock Defeat wrote:Mobley hasn't improved but there's no guarantee Chet will either

So Chet is better now and in the future.

Iwasawitness · Post #34 » by **Iwasawitness** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:40 am

Plutonashfan wrote:
Niko23 wrote:
Plutonashfan wrote:I blame it on our terrible coaching staff.

Its probably why JB is gone, regardless if we sneak out of the first round because we will get swept by Boston. Mobley has no strength and plays scared. Really sad that we screwed him up

It's not only him look at DG and Okoro they all regressed.

Okoro regressed? Okoro.

I don't think you know what kind of player Okoro was just a few years ago.

Blazing_royale · Post #35 » by **Blazing_royale** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:48 am

I remember not long ago Mobley was regarded a generational defender a la Tim Duncan

srhcan · Post #36 » by **srhcan** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:49 am

omerome wrote:Chet and it isn't close.

Mobley came into the league and was supposed to be a Duncan'esque player and the only thing they really have in common is they're both tall.

I dont know when Mobley lost his mojo but he is not the same player anymore. Both Barnes and Sengun have sprinted ahead of him and both of them were drafted after Mobley

srhcan · Post #37 » by **srhcan** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:51 am

omerome wrote:Chet and it isn't close.

Mobley came into the league and was supposed to be a Duncan'esque player and the only thing they really have in common is they're both tall.

I think if Mobley was drafted by Raptors, he would have been much better player today. Masai tried his best to trade up and get Mobley on draft night.

RoyceDa59 · Post #38 » by **RoyceDa59** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:51 am

Chet for sure.

GSP · Post #39 » by **GSP** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:55 am

Alot of the Cavs best lineups this season were with Wade instead of Mobley. They played better with Wade and w/o Mobley at the 4.

Mobley might be the better defender for now but Chet is already miles ahead offensively and there is no indication Mobley will be or ever had the offensive skillset to be much better than he is now while Chet still has plenty to grow. This isnt close Chet has white Ad potential Mobley best case scenario if everything works right is Bam lol

Chuck Everett · Post #40 » by **Chuck Everett** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:14 am

GSP wrote:Alot of the Cavs best lineups this season were with Wade instead of Mobley. They played better with Wade and w/o Mobley at the 4.

Mobley might be the better defender for now but Chet is already miles ahead offensively and there is no indication Mobley will be or ever had the offensive skillset to be much better than he is now while Chet still has plenty to grow. This isnt close Chet has white Ad potential Mobley best case scenario if everything works right is Bam lol

Mobley averaged 15.7ppg (fourth highest scorer) and Chet averaged 16.5ppg (third highest scorer).

Which statement is true?