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Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 6:16 am
by Mrakar
Gobert was -10 tonight, other 2 best Wolves players were -32. Enough said...

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 6:48 am
by Lalouie
Ugly Duckling wrote:Seems like they played much better in game 2 without him slowing them down and clogging up the paint.



so you're talking about the offense

howz about the defense

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 6:52 am
by Roy T
Handlez wrote:This world will end soon.


Lawdamercy

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 7:05 am
by lonzo_pelota
The Nuggets got punched in the mouth for two games, to expect the champs not to come back and go straight for Minny's chin with a vengeance in game 3 u don't know playoff basketball, Especially if your a Defending champ with pride. Like i said after game two this is gonna be a long series , and the best team will win eventually. Gobert isn't the reason they loss tonight , Denver regaining there balance and playing to there strength and getting hot and Minnys defense taking a game off is why the nuggets won. If you look at the regular season they matched up well and i think went 2-2 against each other if memory serves. So expect a slugfest. Whomever wants it more and plays to their strength is gonna win each game in this series.

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 7:55 am
by iggymcfrack
Wolves have a NetRtg of +22.3 with Gobert on the floor this postseason and he has an on/off of +13.4. Both marks are second best on the team behind McDaniels. Overreacting to one game would be asinine.

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 8:05 am
by JasonStern
I guess I'll be the one that responds with "it depends on the match up". Against a player like Jokic or Embiid, his opponents will still get numbers. Just not as dominant as they would be otherwise. But against more guard oriented/jump shot teams, yes?

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 8:15 am
by WentzerWuver
I guess they can bench him to win again Lol

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 8:18 am
by WentzerWuver
JasonStern wrote:I guess I'll be the one that responds with "it depends on the match up". Against a player like Jokic or Embiid, his opponents will still get numbers. Just not as dominant as they would be otherwise. But against more guard oriented/jump shot teams, yes?
What do you expect from someone using deduction work from reading all those Holmes novels.

Minny won without Gobert but lost with him - Wow dat must be it Lol

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 8:28 am
by JasonStern
WentzerWuver wrote:
JasonStern wrote:I guess I'll be the one that responds with "it depends on the match up". Against a player like Jokic or Embiid, his opponents will still get numbers. Just not as dominant as they would be otherwise. But against more guard oriented/jump shot teams, yes?
What do you expect from someone using deduction work from reading all those Holmes novels.

Minny won without Gobert but lost with him - Wow dat must be it Lol


Lots of ball left to be played, but if Minnesota wins a 'chip, beating the defending champs and the unbeatable Celtics, I will eat so much crow for criticizing the Gobert trade.

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 8:55 am
by Shaka_Zulu
Ugly Duckling wrote: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?





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Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 9:39 am
by B-easy
In game 2 without Gobert, they were heavily doubling Jokic. In G3 With Gobert playing they 1v1 him. Maybe they should go back to doubling even with Gobert in the backline. They can recover very well with their length and force TO's.

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 12:36 pm
by Saints14
Phew, Jokic is a GOAT candidate again and Gobert sucks in the playoffs. The world is back in its proper order

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 12:38 pm
by sikma42
B-easy wrote:In game 2 without Gobert, they were heavily doubling Jokic. In G3 With Gobert playing they 1v1 him. Maybe they should go back to doubling even with Gobert in the backline. They can recover very well with their length and force TO's.

That game was lost in the first half, Jokic wasn’t really a factor. It was just the overall team execution for Denver and lack of execution for Minny.


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Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 12:43 pm
by Bergmaniac
The competition for the shortest memory and most kneejerk threads is really fierce on this board.

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 1:08 pm
by Johnny Tomala
He is complete donkey on offense. He probably had bad game, this thread was not needed.

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 1:09 pm
by MoneyTalks41890
While we’re doing hot takes is Ant still MJ?

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 1:14 pm
by Hornet Mania
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:While we’re doing hot takes is Ant still MJ?


Demoted to the Michael Jordan of Ricky Davis's.

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 1:47 pm
by KembaWalker
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:While we’re doing hot takes is Ant still MJ?


Imagine MJ with the help they give these kids nowadays :o

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 3:16 pm
by Jaqua92
XtremeDunkz wrote:How about game 1? Can we not over analyze a single game please.


Minnesota loses that game if Denver doesn't come out flat like that have in game 1s all series long. 14 point deficit to start. With a bit more effort, Denver would have been up double digits at the half and survived a late game push.

The problem with Rudy, imo, is that the defense can function without him. He absolutely raises the ceiling, but brings nothing offensively. Minnesota has shown last night that they will struggle to score against competent defenses. And Rudy does not stretch the floor on offense.

My gripe, all season, has been Minnesotas average defense. They've looked great in their first 6 games because their opponents weren't playing defense. Last night was the first time they faced some defensive pressure, and everyone, including Edwards, were discombobulated. It'll only get tougher as the playoffs progress. Especially against Dallas/OKC, and Boston, all of who have higher ceilings defensively than Denver.

Re: Is Minnesota better without Gobert?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 3:18 pm
by TravisScott55
Not at all. Denver had a good game, they are the defending champs. They weren't going to just roll over.