Re: Antman is in great company
Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 9:45 pm
zimpy27 wrote:bledredwine wrote:zimpy27 wrote:
You quoted Jordan at 23, at 22 he had a PER of 24.7
At age 22 (playoffs) -
LeBron James - 23.9 (got to Finals)
Anthony Edwards - 26.8 (2nd round so far)
Michael Jordan - 24.7 (got to first round)
On basketball reference, next to 22 it lists "30.1". I listed that for Lebron/Jordan/Ant without realizing that Jordan
would have turned 22 by the playoffs.
Fixed.
Listing 1st round 2nd round would be stupid since it takes time for GM's to build a team around a player and MJ was a rookie, not to mention how awful the eastern conference was in Lebron's run anyway. This is a thread about individual stats and ANT's development as a player.
We list those things when a career is over, because by then, you will have witnessed the players having a team built around them and how well they were able to carry those teams.
Well context matters because going against first round teams is different to finals teams. The data is skewed
If you want to include context and want to delve further in, then you must also include the following:
PER was far more inflated in the 00's and on then in the 80s
PER generally favors point players
Jordan was a rookie and Lebron in his 3rd season in the league.
And you're acting like Lebron's number was from the finals. Lebron didn't just play in the finals. It included his entire playoffs run in a weak eastern conference, if we're talking context.
Jordan's was against the defensively stacked Milwaukee bucks, rated 2nd in defense, which is more context. So no, it shouldn't skew the PER given that context. Stating "finals" as if it should change the PER number is very inaccurate, given the context.
But we can always make a whole separate thread with PER numbers and finals runs, the defenses they played, etc, if you want that. This thread is not for that. It's kind of funny to hear about context when everyone used to post those "up to age 27 achievements" GIFs and triple double GIFs between the two without any context.