2024 NBA Finals: The Stars Match-up (Doncic/Irving vs Tatum/Brown)
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It would be great to see Kyrie lift the trophy in Boston.
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Career numbers (vs Celtics):
Kyrie Irving (26 games, 1 with Mavs, 7 with Nets, rest with Cavs): 23.3 points, 3.9 rebounds, 5.0 assists
Luka Doncic (11 games): 29.9 points, 8.8 rebounds, 7.5 assists
Career numbers (vs Mavs):
Jayson Tatum (14 games): 24.5 points, 9.1 rebounds, 3.2 assists
Jaylen Brown (13 games): 22.3 points, 5.8 rebounds, 2.4 assists
Kyrie Irving (26 games, 1 with Mavs, 7 with Nets, rest with Cavs): 23.3 points, 3.9 rebounds, 5.0 assists
Luka Doncic (11 games): 29.9 points, 8.8 rebounds, 7.5 assists
Career numbers (vs Mavs):
Jayson Tatum (14 games): 24.5 points, 9.1 rebounds, 3.2 assists
Jaylen Brown (13 games): 22.3 points, 5.8 rebounds, 2.4 assists
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durden_tyler wrote:Fencer reregistered wrote:The Celtics defense is ideally suited to limit Doncic.
It isn't particularly suited to stopping Kyrie, but he also hasn't beaten them in any game in the past 3 years.
Conversely, Tatum and Brown have not been tested by any defense these playoffs. Let's see what kind of schemes Dallas run against them but i think that's one of the underrated and crucial moves Kidd will take.
White and especially Jrue are pretty good defenders too. Doncic has been lighting it up from 3 and I wonder if there’s going to be a regression to the mean.
everyone is thinking about Kyrie vs Boston but what about KP VS Dallas?
Dallas would need DJJ ans PJ to step up once again.
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Here is thing. We all agree Luka is best player and Tatum 2. I say kyrie and Brown are a wash. No one is better skilled than kyrie. Brown is a monster player.
Here is what I know .
Any of those 4 players can be the best player in the floor. Brown can easily outplay Luka in some games, and Kyrie gets hit he can explode and surpass Tatum and be best players on the floor for that game.
Celtics have a much more options in Whitt, Jrue and Zinger if one of the stars isn’t quite elite.
Mavs will need both Luka and Kyrie to be superior every game they win. I don’t think Celtics needs the same out of Tatum and Brown.
Here is what I know .
Any of those 4 players can be the best player in the floor. Brown can easily outplay Luka in some games, and Kyrie gets hit he can explode and surpass Tatum and be best players on the floor for that game.
Celtics have a much more options in Whitt, Jrue and Zinger if one of the stars isn’t quite elite.
Mavs will need both Luka and Kyrie to be superior every game they win. I don’t think Celtics needs the same out of Tatum and Brown.
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Poll added.
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jfs1000d wrote:Here is thing. We all agree Luka is best player and Tatum 2. I say kyrie and Brown are a wash. No one is better skilled than kyrie. Brown is a monster player.
Here is what I know .
Any of those 4 players can be the best player in the floor. Brown can easily outplay Luka in some games, and Kyrie gets hit he can explode and surpass Tatum and be best players on the floor for that game.
Celtics have a much more options in Whitt, Jrue and Zinger if one of the stars isn’t quite elite.
Mavs will need both Luka and Kyrie to be superior every game they win. I don’t think Celtics needs the same out of Tatum and Brown.
This right here. Kyrie and Luka are the more potent duo, but Boston has better depth and role players.
This series will come down to which advantage is greater.
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Best thing about this series is that mavs and celtics both got by the ecf/wcf hurdle. What do they both have in common? Both traded away grant williams this season...
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Tatum goes full Harden Embiid level chokejob in these moments, lets see if toi much depth for Dallas tho and if porzy coming back messes with chemistry
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Scoundreldays wrote:Love the storyline on this one. Kyrie possible revenge on Boston. Porzinguis playing against his former team
Kyrie revenge on Boston? How is it his revenge? How was he wronged by Boston?
He's the one who abandoned the team.
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Jaqua92 wrote:Scoundreldays wrote:Love the storyline on this one. Kyrie possible revenge on Boston. Porzinguis playing against his former team
Kyrie revenge on Boston? How is it his revenge? How was he wronged by Boston?
He's the one who abandoned the team.
Not talking about that. Talking about how he got swept a few years ago by them.
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When NBA's #1 Defense meet Luka Doncic
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Mavs in 6. Sorry, Tatum. Luka's time has come.
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John Murdoch wrote:Tatum goes full Harden Embiid level chokejob in these moments, lets see if toi much depth for Dallas tho and if porzy coming back messes with chemistry
You mean the guy who dropped 46 & 51 in elimination games the last 2 post seasons ?
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Sweet Serenity wrote:John Murdoch wrote:Tatum goes full Harden Embiid level chokejob in these moments, lets see if toi much depth for Dallas tho and if porzy coming back messes with chemistry
You mean the guy who dropped 46 & 51 in elimination games the last 2 post seasons ?
Yup, Tatum doesn't SNIFF Embiid's level of choking in the play-offs...
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Oscar9992 wrote:When NBA's #1 Defense meet Luka Doncic
This series was lost by Edwards/Town in 4Q of the first 3 games
After 3Q
1st game MIN +1
2nd game MIN +7
3rd game MIN 0
4Q
Edwards/KAT 7.0pts 1.6ast 1.6tov
Doncic/Irving 19.3pts 4.0ast 1.3tov
4Q
1st game MIN -4
2nd game MIN -8
3rd game MIN -9
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Basically every NBA champ has been top 5 in the playoffs in either OFFRTG or DEFRTG. Boston is top 5 in both, Dallas is top 5 in neither.
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Fencer reregistered wrote:The Celtics defense is ideally suited to limit Doncic.
It isn't particularly suited to stopping Kyrie, but he also hasn't beaten them in any game in the past 3 years.
Stopped him pretty well in 22.