Why did the Mavericks not trade for Pascal Siakam?

[durden_tyler]

Why did the Mavericks not trade for Pascal Siakam?
Why did the Warriors not trade for Pascal Siakam?
Why did the Sixers not trade for Pascal Siakam?

Who else?

[ejftw]

Not really. People hear 3 FRP's and blow their loads. The picks are trash.

Ok so FRP's are trash but those Dallas pieces aren't?

I would rather have Green and Hardy then the 19th and 29th pick in this piss poor draft for sure. EASILY! You are making my point for me. If those guys are no good why did they not give them up for Siakam then?

I've been a fan of Green since watching him and Nico at the WCE 100 and Hardy since he was an incoming sophomore with PopPop.

I wouldn't deal #19 for either of them.

Taking Josh's contract into consideration and his lack of development, at least where I thought he would be, namely when it comes to any resemblance of a jumper, I wouldn't consider dealing #29 for him. Hardy is a toss up.

[brackdan70]

Not really. People hear 3 FRP's and blow their loads. The picks are trash.

Ok so FRP's are trash but those Dallas pieces aren't?

I would rather have Green and Hardy then the 19th and 29th pick in this piss poor draft for sure. EASILY! You are making my point for me. If those guys are no good why did they not give them up for Siakam then?

This draft is only weak at the top. The depth is quite strong. Hardy has only next year under contract and is then a UFA right. Green starts his extension at 3/40 next season. He needs to step it up to earn that money. Green is probably worth pick 19…maybe better. Hardy is not worth a first round pick. Then that 26 pick is a fantastic draft and who knows where Indy is in 2 years.

[Airmiess]

Considering what it took to acquire him, its a good question.

[JustBuzzin]

They would literally have no defenders.

They did right getting Gafford/PJ. You need as many defenders as possible with Luka/Kyrie on the floor.

[Richard4444]

Maybe siakam did not want to re-sign in Dallas and made it clear.

[Richard4444]

Maybe Dallas wanted 2 players (a center and a PF) in return for Grant Williams and picks.

Giving all these assets (plus other rotatio players) to get only Siakam would Hurt their depth.

[dhsilv2]

I don't think Mavs had the ability to match 3 FRP's, and what TOR probably believes to be a 4th when they got Brown.

Brown also had a short deal. To make that trade they would have had to include some cotracts TOR certainly would not want like THJ, Maxi, Grant, ect...

I don't think DAL was a real suiter for Pascal

The 3 FRP's picks sound good on paper but they are the 19th and 29th pick in this year draft and a 2026 top 3 or 4 protected. I can't remember which. Hardaway Jr. expires at the same time as Brown Jr. They should have been a suitor.

fans seem to really care that a pick isn't early....GM's don't.

[PushDaRock]

Maybe Dallas wanted 2 players (a center and a PF) in return for Grant Williams and picks.

Giving all these assets (plus other rotatio players) to get only Siakam would Hurt their depth.

It's not like they have any depth right now anyways, they have maybe 5 players that are playable, the rest they're forced to play not by choice.

[dhsilv2]

Siakim is actually not a great fit as a corner 3&D guy in the Luka offense.

Gafford and PJ > Siakam indisputably for them

I'm pretty sure the goal is his defense, but he's also a down hill threat like very few others. You're thinking too inside a box. Kidd has clearly shown he knows how to adjust and adapt in these playoffs.

[Impuniti]

Maybe Dallas wanted 2 players (a center and a PF) in return for Grant Williams and picks.

Giving all these assets (plus other rotatio players) to get only Siakam would Hurt their depth.

It's not like they have any depth right now anyways, they have maybe 5 players that are playable, the rest they're forced to play not by choice.

And having less than that is.. better?

[PushDaRock]

Maybe Dallas wanted 2 players (a center and a PF) in return for Grant Williams and picks.

Giving all these assets (plus other rotatio players) to get only Siakam would Hurt their depth.

It's not like they have any depth right now anyways, they have maybe 5 players that are playable, the rest they're forced to play not by choice.

And having less than that is.. better?

I mean if the choice is having either Siakam or Gafford + Washington, the choice seems obvious.

[doogie_hauser]

I like Josh Green. I don't have a problem with the Mavs wanting to keep him.

Pascal really didn't cause the Celtics many problems in the East Finals anyway.

[basketballRob]

If THJ was in the final year of his contract, they might have worked something out. THJ is another guy like Tobias Harris, who probably ends up making 10x what his real value was in the NBA. As long as Dallas has had him, I felt like they've been behind the 8-ball in team building. He's a good shooter but an awful defender. Now he doesn't do anything well. He'd have a tough time making it in China. They should package THJ plus any picks they have for Simons or Brogdon.

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[Impuniti]

It's not like they have any depth right now anyways, they have maybe 5 players that are playable, the rest they're forced to play not by choice.

And having less than that is.. better?

I mean if the choice is having either Siakam or Gafford + Washington, the choice seems obvious.

In regards to depth, the answer is pretty clear that they would be worse off depth wise in that scenario. If you think he's better than having those two because the team overall is better, then that's fair.

[MavsDirk41]

Maybe Dallas wanted 2 players (a center and a PF) in return for Grant Williams and picks.

Giving all these assets (plus other rotatio players) to get only Siakam would Hurt their depth.

It's not like they have any depth right now anyways, they have maybe 5 players that are playable, the rest they're forced to play not by choice.

They have some decent depth with Kleber, Green, and Lively. They havent gotten much out of Kleber and Green in the finals but they contributed throughout the season and playoffs. Green isnt great but he is decent as a defender, hustle guy. He is good in transition. Kleber has had some injury issuse the last few years but when he is healthy he is a very good defensive player who is versatile (can defend 3-5 positions) and he can stretch the court. Exum had a surprising season but hasnt done much in the playoffs.

[WentzerWuver]

The Raptors got peanuts for Siakam and it was rumored that the Mavs were not willing to include Green of all people in potential trade talks. Not saying that the Mavericks would have beat the Celtics with Siakam but they would have had a punchers chance at least.

Cause they wanted the most gifted player ever in return trade...didn't you get the memo?

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[madskillz8]

Bringing Siakam and maximizing his contribution requires getting the ball out of Luka and Irving's hands, and I am not sure if it is a good idea. From the team building perspective, the trio of Doncic-Irving-Siakam leaves too much holes to filled by the two remaining spots, especially on the defensive end.

It also requires giving Siakam a max (he's UFA and could find max elsewhere) and throwing FRPs in process, thus going to second apron territory without picks. I have doubts whether it is a good idea, too. Especially considering Siakam already being on the wrong side of 30 before his 5-year max kicks in. Good long-term decision by the Mavs.

[Baz]

I prefer what they have now over the Siakam trade. I understand it's doom and gloom for the Mavericks right now, but Kyrie isn't slowing down, this team is pretty much locked in for next season, & Luka is just 25 and we hope still has his prime ahead of him. This group will learn from this trip to the Finals. They'll be back.

[Mr B]

Siakim is actually not a great fit as a corner 3&D guy in the Luka offense.

Gafford and PJ > Siakam indisputably for them

Paul George is though.