Norman Powell: Losing Paul George is addition by subtraction. Update: Norm: Everybody now is coachable

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Re: Norman Powell: Losing Paul George is addition by subtraction. 

Post#21 » by WiggOuts » Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:59 pm

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Scalabrine wrote:He's not wrong. Last year in LA he took 11.4 fga per game and that was the fewest he'd taken since his 3rd year when he was coming off the bench in OKC. It was also his second lowest usg% of his career (also when he was in OKC coming off the bench). Career low free throw rate too and career high 3pt rate.

His TS% was just the same as it's always been, so it's reasonable to imagine that with a different shot diet, where he's getting into the paint and drawing more fouls, with a higher usage%, that he should be putting up much better numbers than he was last year. Weather that means more wins for the Clippers is a different thing, I think the West is much stronger, and the Clippers just lack some of the talent that the rest of the team has.

The RealGM Survivor Poll has them as the consensus 13th seed, and thats where I view them. Harden may put up some great numbers doing it, but I don't see it leading to success unless Kawhi plays 65+ games.


13th is insane. Even if Kawhi misses 50+ games they are a 35 win team. I don’t think people quite realize how good this depth and defense can be. I have the Clippers between 42-48 wins and 6-8 seed. Bookmark this now. Remember when people called OKC at 45 wins I said 55+. The prior year most had OKC at bottom of conference and I rightly predicted .500 or better.


My mistake, they were 12th

Zubac/Tucker/Bamba
Jones Jr./Batum/Brown
Mann/Coffey
Powell/Porter/Hyland
Harden/Dunn

IF Kawhi is there, then sure, it's got the talent, but if he's missing 50 games??? They are a tier below in my opinion.

Without Kawhi thats a pretty **** looking team. Losing PG for nothing was a huge blow
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Re: Norman Powell: Losing Paul George is addition by subtraction. 

Post#22 » by OkcSinceSGA » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:01 pm

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13th is insane. Even if Kawhi misses 50+ games they are a 35 win team. I don’t think people quite realize how good this depth and defense can be. I have the Clippers between 42-48 wins and 6-8 seed. Bookmark this now. Remember when people called OKC at 45 wins I said 55+. The prior year most had OKC at bottom of conference and I rightly predicted .500 or better.


My mistake, they were 12th

Zubac/Tucker/Bamba
Jones Jr./Batum/Brown
Mann/Coffey
Powell/Porter/Hyland
Harden/Dunn

IF Kawhi is there, then sure, it's got the talent, but if he's missing 50 games??? They are a tier below in my opinion.

Without Kawhi thats a pretty **** looking team. Losing PG for nothing was a huge blow


Man, people are in for a shock lol. So much of this forum is awful at projections. This team is gonna catch a lot of your teams this year by surprise.
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Re: Norman Powell: Losing Paul George is addition by subtraction. 

Post#23 » by Black Jack » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:04 pm

Everyone says this when a star player leaves them in free agency. It's almost never true.
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Post#24 » by Big nick » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:08 pm

SportsGuru08 wrote:Unfortunately Harden is still there and he's as much of a choker while being woefully inferior as a defender.

He has shown to not be the man chocker for sure who doesn't play defense.
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Post#25 » by Lalouie » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:17 pm

if you have "capable players", stars can suck up all their juice because that's how basketball is built

it is the nature of the game is to care too much about superstar talent

when a qb has a big-@$$ed contract the game of football goes about the biz of building a team to support him

when a basketball superstar get's a big-@$$ed contract teams say "we have to let him play his way because that's why we're paying him"
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Post#26 » by Ballerhogger » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:21 pm

PG and harden and Kawhi all ball dominant so it was bad flow on offense . Defensively they did get worst
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Post#27 » by OkcSinceSGA » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:22 pm

Ballerhogger wrote:PG and harden and Kawhi all ball dominant so it was bad flow on offense . Defensively they did get worst


How? Defensively DJJ was significantly better than PG last year. Then they brought Batum back and added Dunn lol.
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Post#28 » by BodieB » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:27 pm

Time to let those braids go James.
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Re: Norman Powell: Losing Paul George is addition by subtraction. 

Post#29 » by Lockdown504090 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:29 pm

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Lockdown504090 wrote:Bottom ten defense without him. Aight tho


I would be shocked if they aren’t a top 5-7 defense this year.

Dunn, Batum, DJJ, Mann, Zubac, Kawhi isn’t giving you a bottom 10 defense lol.

how much will dunn batum and leonard play? and how much will james harden kevin porter coffey and powell play. Their roster is a choice between offense and defense, and rarely do i see the coach choose defense when faced with such choices.
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Post#31 » by ShootersShoot » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:01 pm

Kawhi era has been a disaster so far..hes only made it through one playoffs. His games played average is 57 games per season while missing an entire one in that stretch..at what point do they blow up the team?
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Post#32 » by manlisten » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:22 pm

Lockdown504090 wrote:
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Lockdown504090 wrote:Bottom ten defense without him. Aight tho


I would be shocked if they aren’t a top 5-7 defense this year.

Dunn, Batum, DJJ, Mann, Zubac, Kawhi isn’t giving you a bottom 10 defense lol.

how much will dunn batum and leonard play? and how much will james harden kevin porter coffey and powell play. Their roster is a choice between offense and defense, and rarely do i see the coach choose defense when faced with such choices.


Right. They have more bad defenders than good and none of their good defenders contribute offensively. Their 2nd option when Kawhi sits is Kevin Porter. Team is headed nowhere.
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Re: Norman Powell: Losing Paul George is addition by subtraction. 

Post#33 » by WiggOuts » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:41 pm

OkcSinceSGA wrote:
WiggOuts wrote:
Scalabrine wrote:
My mistake, they were 12th

Zubac/Tucker/Bamba
Jones Jr./Batum/Brown
Mann/Coffey
Powell/Porter/Hyland
Harden/Dunn

IF Kawhi is there, then sure, it's got the talent, but if he's missing 50 games??? They are a tier below in my opinion.

Without Kawhi thats a pretty **** looking team. Losing PG for nothing was a huge blow


Man, people are in for a shock lol. So much of this forum is awful at projections. This team is gonna catch a lot of your teams this year by surprise.

They're not going to be bottom of the barrel but they've definitely taken a step back. You don't lose a player of PGs caliber with no return and think you've improved. They have a great coach and I wouldn't be shocked if they get more regular season wins but their ceiling has dropped. Their roster on paper isnt top tier anymore imo
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Re: Norman Powell: Losing Paul George is addition by subtraction. 

Post#34 » by Scalabrine » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:49 pm

OkcSinceSGA wrote:
WiggOuts wrote:
Scalabrine wrote:
My mistake, they were 12th

Zubac/Tucker/Bamba
Jones Jr./Batum/Brown
Mann/Coffey
Powell/Porter/Hyland
Harden/Dunn

IF Kawhi is there, then sure, it's got the talent, but if he's missing 50 games??? They are a tier below in my opinion.

Without Kawhi thats a pretty **** looking team. Losing PG for nothing was a huge blow


Man, people are in for a shock lol. So much of this forum is awful at projections. This team is gonna catch a lot of your teams this year by surprise.


Vegas is awful at projections too, because they have then at 12th also.
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Re: Norman Powell: Losing Paul George is addition by subtraction. 

Post#35 » by Sixers in 4 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:54 pm

Powell has been traded for nothing twice he is the literal definition of addition by subtraction. Harden isn't capable of being the guy but still wants the ball in his hands every play getting the easy buckets and leaving it to his teammates to create looks or jack up shots late in the shot clock.

I am going to enjoy watching the LAC team implode.
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Post#36 » by LeBronSpaghetti » Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:08 pm

PG is a clown but that’s why he was such a good fit with the Clippers, and why he’s such a good fit with the Sixers too. The problem here is that Norm doesn’t seem to realize the Clippers are the leaders of clown town and are showing no signs of that changing any time soon.

All these guys deserve each other. Harden, PG, Embiid, Kawhi, Norm, etc. They’re perennial whiners and losers who blame those around them without realizing they’re the problem.
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Post#37 » by Airmiess » Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:28 pm

I do think there was too many chefs in the kitchen, it was mostly insurance for Kawhi however.
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Post#38 » by HotelVitale » Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:30 pm

Just talking cuz he has to say something at media day, and of course he wants to get more shots up and up his #s. And he's capable of doing that too.

Besides what's he supposed to say, 'man we're totally boned and are doomed to a 6th seed ceiling for the rest of my time here'?
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Re: Norman Powell: Losing Paul George is addition by subtraction. 

Post#39 » by HotelVitale » Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:37 pm

OkcSinceSGA wrote:
WiggOuts wrote:
Scalabrine wrote:My mistake, they were 12th
Zubac/Tucker/Bamba
Jones Jr./Batum/Brown
Mann/Coffey
Powell/Porter/Hyland
Harden/Dunn
IF Kawhi is there, then sure, it's got the talent, but if he's missing 50 games??? They are a tier below in my opinion.

Without Kawhi thats a pretty **** looking team. Losing PG for nothing was a huge blow
Man, people are in for a shock lol. So much of this forum is awful at projections. This team is gonna catch a lot of your teams this year by surprise.


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Re: Norman Powell: Losing Paul George is addition by subtraction. 

Post#40 » by OkcSinceSGA » Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:00 pm

Scalabrine wrote:
OkcSinceSGA wrote:
WiggOuts wrote:Without Kawhi thats a pretty **** looking team. Losing PG for nothing was a huge blow


Man, people are in for a shock lol. So much of this forum is awful at projections. This team is gonna catch a lot of your teams this year by surprise.


Vegas is awful at projections too, because they have then at 12th also.


That same Vegas literally had the Thunder at like 25 wins two years ago. How did that turn out? Every year recently Vegas runs 5-10 wins low on the top 2-3 seeds in both conferences too basically. The highest win projection last year I believe was 53 or 54 and Boston won 66?
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