Is that all she wrote for Embiid's legacy?

[adubmac]

Embiid's legacy will be that he was the most hated player of the 2020s.

[HotelVitale]

Don't get what people's obsession is with Embiid lately. He's a really talented and interesting player who also has some flaws on court and is also generally pretty immature as a personality. We've all known that for, what, 4 years now? There's no new update since people said that last year or last week or whatever.

He's nursing an injury now and trying for the first time ever not to play through things just cuz. He might not come back from it, sure, but it seems much more likely he will be back for at least another couple runs. Who knows if he'll be his old self again but it's very unlikely his career is over so we really don't need to have some kind of career retrospective during game 17 of his age-30 season.

[NZB2323]

The OP is right about every word, but, just from an on-court perspective, Embiid has had a great career. Not great relative to his physical gifts, but still great. Well within the Top 75 and very likely within the Top 50 when he retires. HoF a no-brainer. He's incredibly unlikable, but he still balled out a lot - mostly in the regular season.

I’m not sure about top 75. Dwight Howard, Pau Gasol, Tmac, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Mutumbo and Vince Carter didn’t make top 75. And now you’d have to add Jokic, Luka, Brown, Butler, and Tatum. Does Embiid rank ahead of any of those guys?

I think Embiid ranks around Derrick Rose. They both won an MVP but Rose actually made it to a conference finals.

[NZB2323]

Don't get what people's obsession is with Embiid lately. He's a really talented and interesting player who also has some flaws on court and is also generally pretty immature as a personality. We've all known that for, what, 4 years now? There's no new update since people said that last year or last week or whatever.

He's nursing an injury now and trying for the first time ever not to play through things just cuz. He might not come back from it, sure, but it seems much more likely he will be back for at least another couple runs. Who knows if he'll be his old self again but it's very unlikely his career is over so we really don't need to have some kind of career retrospective during game 17 of his age-30 season.

The update is the 76ers are 3-12, Embiid shoved a reporter, and Maxey called him out in a team meeting for being late to things.

This season isn’t like the previous 4 years.

[RRR3]

The OP is right about every word, but, just from an on-court perspective, Embiid has had a great career. Not great relative to his physical gifts, but still great. Well within the Top 75 and very likely within the Top 50 when he retires. HoF a no-brainer. He's incredibly unlikable, but he still balled out a lot - mostly in the regular season.

I’m not sure about top 75. Dwight Howard, Pau Gasol, Tmac, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Mutumbo and Vince Carter didn’t make top 75. And now you’d have to add Jokic, Luka, Brown, Butler, and Tatum. Does Embiid rank ahead of any of those guys?

I think Embiid ranks around Derrick Rose. They both won an MVP but Rose actually made it to a conference finals.

Rose was elite for 1.5 seasons. Embiid has been pretty elite since he stepped on the court in 2016-17, even if you think peak Rose was better (which I would STRONGLY argue against), Embiid has still added more total value by far.

[Lalouie]

at this point there is nothing to do for his legacy than to get a ring

he has won everything else but with big question marks about his playoffs

this is his last hurrah. he can either get a ring, cement his legacy, and have people think of what might have been as a healthy embiid,,,,,or NOT get a ring and have people know that this is what he's always been.

winning a ring erases ALL the negs - so yeah..th th th the that's all she wrote

[Lalouie]

Embiid's legacy will be that he was the most hated player of the 2020s.

whiny maybe

[Chokic]

Best player in the nba from 2020-2023. He was robbed of two mvps one from the media and the other his body giving out on him. Ppl forget he missed two seasons to start his career he could have easily turned into greg oden 2.0

[Roger Murdock]

He’s an often injured out of shape player who is injured and out of shape right now

Is it the end? Maybe. But he’s dealing with the same problems he’s had his entire career and he’s been a great regular season player despite that. I won’t be surprised if he has a few more all star quality regular seasons in him.

[HotelVitale]

Don't get what people's obsession is with Embiid lately. He's a really talented and interesting player who also has some flaws on court and is also generally pretty immature as a personality. We've all known that for, what, 4 years now? There's no new update since people said that last year or last week or whatever.

He's nursing an injury now and trying for the first time ever not to play through things just cuz. He might not come back from it, sure, but it seems much more likely he will be back for at least another couple runs. Who knows if he'll be his old self again but it's very unlikely his career is over so we really don't need to have some kind of career retrospective during game 17 of his age-30 season.

The update is the 76ers are 3-12, Embiid shoved a reporter, and Maxey called him out in a team meeting for being late to things. This season isn’t like the previous 4 years.

Embiid's barely played this year and neither of the other 'new updates' are new or worth remembering. You guys have to know this is just a retread of the lame sports talk 'I like winners with good attitudes, let's bond over repeating that and saying why X or Y guy isn't like that.'

Whatever happens Embiid's legacy will be determined by what happens by his injuries and on the court. He comes back healthy and good and all this is forgotten, he doesn't over the next couple years and this becomes one forgotten and irrelevant month in a longer story of decline with much bigger benchmarks. We've had nothing new to work with about his 'legacy' since the Knicks series and Olympics.

[The Servant]

When people thought he'd return to the league fired up and ready to win a chip..

He showed up with a new free throw routine that consists of picking his ass and sniffing his fingers.

Wow, I can't even believe I typed that out. It doesn't even sound real.

[The Servant]

Best player in the nba from 2020-2023. He was robbed of two mvps one from the media and the other his body giving out on him. Ppl forget he missed two seasons to start his career he could have easily turned into greg oden 2.0

Ironic name given Joker won a chip with Jamal as a side kick in the stacked West, and Embiid never made a conference finals with Buckets (a guy who made multiple finals with role players), James Harden, Ben Simmons and Maxey in the much weaker Eastern Conference

[Ol Roy]

I can't say I feel sorry for him.

[ImSlower]

Best player in the nba from 2020-2023. He was robbed of two mvps one from the media and the other his body giving out on him. Ppl forget he missed two seasons to start his career he could have easily turned into greg oden 2.0

Ironic name given Joker won a chip with Jamal as a side kick in the stacked West, and Embiid never made a conference finals with Buckets (a guy who made multiple finals with role players), James Harden, Ben Simmons and Maxey in the much weaker Eastern Conference

That entire account exists to say "Embiid > Jokic". It's not worth it.

[LordCovington33]

Best player in the nba from 2020-2023. He was robbed of two mvps one from the media and the other his body giving out on him. Ppl forget he missed two seasons to start his career he could have easily turned into greg oden 2.0

Two season-ending injuries and his younger brother dying at that same time. His mind was a mess at that time (quite understandably) and he was even considering going back home. Brett Brown spent the night with him after his brother passed away. Terrible on-court coach but good at dealing with player relationships. It could have ended right there.
Yes, he has his flaws. But when he was focused, he was quite unstoppable.
Jokic has since proven to be the best center of the 21st century, but to come back from all that, showed a lot of resilience.

[Fencer reregistered]

at this point there is nothing to do for his legacy than to get a ring

he has won everything else but with big question marks about his playoffs

this is his last hurrah. he can either get a ring, cement his legacy, and have people think of what might have been as a healthy embiid,,,,,or NOT get a ring and have people know that this is what he's always been.

winning a ring erases ALL the negs - so yeah..th th th the that's all she wrote

Even making the ECF would be an improvement.

[Fencer reregistered]

He trains in the same gym Jayson Tatum does. And he's added a lot to his game over the years. So I doubt he's truly lazy.

[Curmudgeon]

Quite apart from his conditioning issues he sucks the air out of his teammates. When he is on the floor it's all about him. If the Sixers built their offense around Maxey and another scorer, and let Embiid be the third option, they would be much more successful.

[Lalouie]

at this point there is nothing to do for his legacy than to get a ring

he has won everything else but with big question marks about his playoffs

this is his last hurrah. he can either get a ring, cement his legacy, and have people think of what might have been as a healthy embiid,,,,,or NOT get a ring and have people know that this is what he's always been.

winning a ring erases ALL the negs - so yeah..th th th the that's all she wrote

Even making the ECF would be an improvement.

yes it would but an ecf or wcf is a walt bellamy level legacy. great player,,,,,,,,,,,,,,who no one ever talks about
i think that is a precipice embiid is facing like 20yrs from now

[sp6r=underrated]

When people talk Embiid's "legacy"... I always ask, what legacy?

He was a very good regular season player at times over parts of a number of seasons... But we've seen plenty of players like that come and go in the history of The Association.

This isn't fair to Embiid. I never enjoyed watching him play but he played at an extremely high level from 18-23. That 6 year stretch was better than a lot of guys in the NBA 75. Obviously given injuries he drops a ton but he was more than "very good" RS player.

Drawing fouls is a skill, and a very important skill. He benefited by playing in an era where defensive players never get benefit of the doubt, but every player had to play with what they had, and Embiid used his circumstances to have all time great numbers.

Correct. I hate the NBA's current rulebook. But the owners and players decided to tailor the rulebook to juice scoring as much as possible. Embiid does the right thing falling down all the time into defenders. The only valid critique I see against is his body can't take all the falls so he should refrain from doing it.

But the sportsmanship critiques are stupid.