Less than 60 Days before the Trade Deadline, Which teams will be Active?

[Dthrill55]

Kings should be buyers to strengthen their bench

[Capn'O]

Portland should be.

They won't, at least not as active as they should. Rob Williams will likely be the only move.

Are there any trades you like for Ant?

I was looking for deals that would send Ant for Kuminga, which I think makes a lot of sense for both parties, and it's almost impossible in the new CBA. Generally, operating in this environment is a tough road to hoe.

[cpower]

Warriors will make a trade....no point to waste Melton contract.

[JRoy]

Him on Denver would be great

DEN won’t want to pay for him.

What is their asking price. I don’t think it is high given his injury history

Late FRP or multiple good SRP and expiring.

[G R E Y]

If I was the bulls I would do everything to ensure I keep my pick and that means trading your rotation guys and trying to get a 1st rounder this year.

Shhhhhhh!

[Jadoogar]

Portland should be.

They won't, at least not as active as they should. Rob Williams will likely be the only move.

Him on Denver would be great

Agreed. That said, I think Rob Williams is Thunder bound. I would put money on it. They have a need and have the players and picks to get a deal done.

A trusted Blazer insider on the RGM board has confirmed he's heard from multiple sources the Blazers have a standing deal on the table for Williams that will return a first round pick, so the Thunder really seems like the only logical destination when looking at pick stash, salaries and need.

I don't expect it to be a good FRP returned for him, but one thats heavily protected and likely ends up as 2nd rounders or just doesn't convey for anything if it doesn't meet the convey criteria within the timeframe.

he would be the third center on a healthy Thunder team. idk if they'll pay a lot for a third string center.

[Celts17Pride]

I don't think any teams are going to be active because of the aprons, tax penalties and trade restrictions. Just expecting some small salary dumps and minor moves. The new CBA will kill the NBA trade deadline.

[pcbothwel]

WSH with Kuz/Poole/Val i guess

Why would they trade Kuz? He is their Tanking General.
They will miss his 27% 3FG if he is gone

Lolol. Poole & Kuz wont be traded yet.
Brogdon & JV will be traded
Brogdon is a PERFECT fit with Orlando & GSW

[FrodoFraggins]

Lakers will be sellers if they are smart.

[BigGargamel]

I don't see a lot of movement happening. The new CBA rules killed player movement, and not many contenders have any first round picks left to trade.

The CBA took all the fun out of pretty much everything NBA related. Can't build a team, can't trade your players, can't resign your free agents, can't add stars to your roster. Did you draft amazing? Too bad sucker, you're gonna have to let half of those guys walk. Yay, how exciting.

[DusterBuster]

Portland should be.

They won't, at least not as active as they should. Rob Williams will likely be the only move.

Are there any trades you like for Ant?

I was looking for deals that would send Ant for Kuminga, which I think makes a lot of sense for both parties, and it's almost impossible in the new CBA. Generally, operating in this environment is a tough road to hoe.

I've been on the Simons to GSW bandwagon for awhile now. Pretty sure I was the first to suggest them as a landing spot for Ant on the Blazer board. Many didn't agree with me, but I still stand by it. I think you see what I see. That Warriors team needs help offensively. Ant can be that scoring punch they need to take pressure off Curry and can fill in the hole left by Jordan Poole, but while being less of a headache.

A lot of Blazer fans are pessimistic on trading Simons since he's been having a pretty rough season so far. It's understandable. He's battled ticky-tack injuries and when he has been healthy, he's been a 50/50 shot to actually show up for games. That said, the Blazers insider I mentioned in regards to Rob Williams also had a note on Simons, in that, while he's having a bad year, it's not wildly effecting his trade value one way or another. FO execs don't swing their value of players as wildly as fans do, and according to him, that's the case with Simons' trade value.

I could see something like maybe Melton, Payton and Kuminga for Simons and Reath working out - GP would be bought out immediately, Blazers will have no interest in bringing him back after the first go-around. Word is that other teams find Reath as a fairly positive asset player too around the league due to his size, contract and outside shooting.

All that said, I think the Warriors might want more, I also think Cronin is going to be fairly staunch in wanting a FRP in return for Simons, so yeah... its kind of a hard fit with the CBA being what it is and the assets that have to go out to make a deal work from both sides.

[SFrush]

Portland should be.

They won't, at least not as active as they should. Rob Williams will likely be the only move.

Are there any trades you like for Ant?

I was looking for deals that would send Ant for Kuminga, which I think makes a lot of sense for both parties, and it's almost impossible in the new CBA. Generally, operating in this environment is a tough road to hoe.

I've been on the Simons to GSW bandwagon for awhile now. Pretty sure I was the first to suggest them as a landing spot for Ant on the Blazer board. Many didn't agree with me, but I still stand by it. I think you see what I see. That Warriors team needs help offensively. Ant can be that scoring punch they need to take pressure off Curry and can fill in the hole left by Jordan Poole, but while being less of a headache.

A lot of Blazer fans are pessimistic on trading Simons since he's been having a pretty rough season so far. It's understandable. He's battled ticky-tack injuries and when he has been healthy, he's been a 50/50 shot to actually show up for games. That said, the Blazers insider I mentioned in regards to Rob Williams also had a note on Simons, in that, while he's having a bad year, it's not wildly effecting his trade value one way or another. FO execs don't swing their value of players as wildly as fans do, and according to him, that's the case with Simons' trade value.

I could see something like maybe Melton, Payton and Kuminga for Simons and Reath working out - GP would be bought out immediately, Blazers will have no interest in bringing him back after the first go-around. Word is that other teams find Reath as a fairly positive asset player too around the league due to his size, contract and outside shooting.

All that said, I think the Warriors might want more, I also think Cronin is going to be fairly staunch in wanting a FRP in return for Simons, so yeah... its kind of a hard fit with the CBA being what it is and the assets that have to go out to make a deal work from both sides.

Pretty unlikely. Dunleavy got rid of a similar archetype of Simons with Poole.

[Capn'O]

Portland should be.

They won't, at least not as active as they should. Rob Williams will likely be the only move.

Are there any trades you like for Ant?

I was looking for deals that would send Ant for Kuminga, which I think makes a lot of sense for both parties, and it's almost impossible in the new CBA. Generally, operating in this environment is a tough road to hoe.

I've been on the Simons to GSW bandwagon for awhile now. Pretty sure I was the first to suggest them as a landing spot for Ant on the Blazer board. Many didn't agree with me, but I still stand by it. I think you see what I see. That Warriors team needs help offensively. Ant can be that scoring punch they need to take pressure off Curry and can fill in the hole left by Jordan Poole, but while being less of a headache.

A lot of Blazer fans are pessimistic on trading Simons since he's been having a pretty rough season so far. It's understandable. He's battled ticky-tack injuries and when he has been healthy, he's been a 50/50 shot to actually show up for games. That said, the Blazers insider I mentioned in regards to Rob Williams also had a note on Simons, in that, while he's having a bad year, it's not wildly effecting his trade value one way or another. FO execs don't swing their value of players as wildly as fans do, and according to him, that's the case with Simons' trade value.

I could see something like maybe Melton, Payton and Kuminga for Simons and Reath working out - GP would be bought out immediately, Blazers will have no interest in bringing him back after the first go-around. Word is that other teams find Reath as a fairly positive asset player too around the league due to his size, contract and outside shooting.

All that said, I think the Warriors might want more, I also think Cronin is going to be fairly staunch in wanting a FRP in return for Simons, so yeah... its kind of a hard fit with the CBA being what it is and the assets that have to go out to make a deal work from both sides.

Oh ok that does work. I was trying all this stuff with Detroit or Utah involved and nothing was penciling that any reasonable team would do. This is close value.

Yeah, we view the rationales similarly. I think it makes sense but JK has been flashing a high ceiling lately which may complicate that coming through. While I agree Simons is static value, a Kuminga breakout alters the calculus.

Pretty unlikely. Dunleavy got rid of a similar archetype of Simons with Poole.

Part of the issue with Poole is his personality and also that Draymond punched his lights out. Ant is good people and more in line with GS culture.

[DusterBuster]

If it were up to me, I would be running a massive firesale on the Blazers roster. Simons, Atyon, Grant, Williams and Thybulle could be had for rock bottom prices as long as the contracts coming back were same length or expiring deals. Picks are great if they are on the table, but not a necessity to making a move.

Blazers should be clearing this roster out of any vet with more than 5 years in the league and letting the team run with Scoot, Camara, Sharpe, Clingan, Avdija, Banton, Murray, Rupert, then whatever scraps return from those trades and/or G-Leaguers. My biggest gripe with the current roster and Cronin is that he has a rebuilding/youth roster with too many vets. They've wasted an insane amount of time for Scoots development at this point - he's a year behind where he should be. It's not totally on the team, but if he were starting and being allowed to play through mistakes, I believe he'd be much further along in his development (or at least it would be very evident he's 1000000% a bust).

Same with Clingan. Injuries aside (can't control that) - he should be starting, getting 30min a game and being allow to foul out and have bad games.

[kodo]

I think Chicago will be active but don't be surprised if Karnisovas doesn't trade for draft picks.

[SFrush]

Are there any trades you like for Ant?

I was looking for deals that would send Ant for Kuminga, which I think makes a lot of sense for both parties, and it's almost impossible in the new CBA. Generally, operating in this environment is a tough road to hoe.

I've been on the Simons to GSW bandwagon for awhile now. Pretty sure I was the first to suggest them as a landing spot for Ant on the Blazer board. Many didn't agree with me, but I still stand by it. I think you see what I see. That Warriors team needs help offensively. Ant can be that scoring punch they need to take pressure off Curry and can fill in the hole left by Jordan Poole, but while being less of a headache.

A lot of Blazer fans are pessimistic on trading Simons since he's been having a pretty rough season so far. It's understandable. He's battled ticky-tack injuries and when he has been healthy, he's been a 50/50 shot to actually show up for games. That said, the Blazers insider I mentioned in regards to Rob Williams also had a note on Simons, in that, while he's having a bad year, it's not wildly effecting his trade value one way or another. FO execs don't swing their value of players as wildly as fans do, and according to him, that's the case with Simons' trade value.

I could see something like maybe Melton, Payton and Kuminga for Simons and Reath working out - GP would be bought out immediately, Blazers will have no interest in bringing him back after the first go-around. Word is that other teams find Reath as a fairly positive asset player too around the league due to his size, contract and outside shooting.

All that said, I think the Warriors might want more, I also think Cronin is going to be fairly staunch in wanting a FRP in return for Simons, so yeah... its kind of a hard fit with the CBA being what it is and the assets that have to go out to make a deal work from both sides.

Oh ok that does work. I was trying all this stuff with Detroit or Utah involved and nothing was penciling that any reasonable team would do. This is close value.

Yeah, we view the rationales similarly. I think it makes sense but JK has been flashing a high ceiling lately which may complicate that coming through. While I agree Simons is static value, a Kuminga breakout alters the calculus.

Pretty unlikely. Dunleavy got rid of a similar archetype of Simons with Poole.

Part of the issue with Poole is his personality and also that Draymond punched his lights out. Ant is good people and more in line with GS culture.

That's part of it. But I don't think they are looking for a microwave scorer that doesn't defend.

[DusterBuster]

Are there any trades you like for Ant?

I was looking for deals that would send Ant for Kuminga, which I think makes a lot of sense for both parties, and it's almost impossible in the new CBA. Generally, operating in this environment is a tough road to hoe.

I've been on the Simons to GSW bandwagon for awhile now. Pretty sure I was the first to suggest them as a landing spot for Ant on the Blazer board. Many didn't agree with me, but I still stand by it. I think you see what I see. That Warriors team needs help offensively. Ant can be that scoring punch they need to take pressure off Curry and can fill in the hole left by Jordan Poole, but while being less of a headache.

A lot of Blazer fans are pessimistic on trading Simons since he's been having a pretty rough season so far. It's understandable. He's battled ticky-tack injuries and when he has been healthy, he's been a 50/50 shot to actually show up for games. That said, the Blazers insider I mentioned in regards to Rob Williams also had a note on Simons, in that, while he's having a bad year, it's not wildly effecting his trade value one way or another. FO execs don't swing their value of players as wildly as fans do, and according to him, that's the case with Simons' trade value.

I could see something like maybe Melton, Payton and Kuminga for Simons and Reath working out - GP would be bought out immediately, Blazers will have no interest in bringing him back after the first go-around. Word is that other teams find Reath as a fairly positive asset player too around the league due to his size, contract and outside shooting.

All that said, I think the Warriors might want more, I also think Cronin is going to be fairly staunch in wanting a FRP in return for Simons, so yeah... its kind of a hard fit with the CBA being what it is and the assets that have to go out to make a deal work from both sides.

Oh ok that does work. I was trying all this stuff with Detroit or Utah involved and nothing was penciling that any reasonable team would do. This is close value.

Yeah, we view the rationales similarly. I think it makes sense but JK has been flashing a high ceiling lately which may complicate that coming through. While I agree Simons is static value, a Kuminga breakout alters the calculus.

The problem for Kuminga is his contract. Flashing breakout moments when he's been pretty hot/cold his whole career is a tough sell for a guy needing a new contract this summer. If you're the team trading for him, do you give him a huge contract to keep him after the summer comes? JK is a huge gamble, so for me, I would only value him as a kick-the-tires kind of player, but probably wouldn't break the bank to resign him. So his value is more in his contract than him as a player. If GSW is going to try and cash out on him as a player... that complicates things like you said. It's going to massively unbalance any deal the Warriors try to do with JK, which is why I think he's actually pretty unlikely to be traded.

All that said, I would actually have no problem trading Simons to GSW without JK coming back if there's a way to make numbers work. Don't think there is, but me wanting to move Simons to GSW actually has literally to nothing to do with Kuminga. I just want Simons off the Blazers and for expiring contracts. I want an addition by subtraction trade to open up the starting role for Scoot.

[Capn'O]

That's part of it. But I don't think they are looking for a microwave scorer that doesn't defend.

That's fair.

I've watched a few Ws games this year and... they do struggle to score, at least relative to where the league is now and where they used to stand in relation to the rest of the league. Which is weird. Ant may not be the answer but I think he'd score in buckets in that system.

The problem for Kuminga is his contract. Flashing breakout moments when he's been pretty hot/cold his whole career is a tough sell for a guy needing a new contract this summer. If you're the team trading for him, do you give him a huge contract to keep him after the summer comes? JK is a huge gamble, so for me, I would only value him as a kick-the-tires kind of player, but probably wouldn't break the bank to resign him. So his value is more in his contract than him as a player. If GSW is going to try and cash out on him as a player... that complicates things like you said. It's going to massively unbalance any deal the Warriors try to do with JK, which is why I think he's actually pretty unlikely to be traded.

All that said, I would actually have no problem trading Simons to GSW without JK coming back if there's a way to make numbers work. Don't think there is, but me wanting to move Simons to GSW actually has literally to nothing to do with Kuminga. I just want Simons off the Blazers and for expiring contracts. I want an addition by subtraction trade to open up the starting role for Scoot.

I'm a bit of a Kuminga truther and think he's exactly the type of player the Blazers should target. If he hits, he's a first option/1b type with great defensive acumen. If he doesn't, you collect picks but at least you're younger. Blazers need to be taking risks now, imo. They've hit a lot of singles and look to have struck out with their big swing. His floor is probably a Harrison Barnes type, which is another single that you can always tuck your tail and move later.

[SkyBill40]

While I always find a flurry of trades near or at the deadline entertaining, I think those times are becoming a distant memory and especially those with "star" players. Many of the teams at the top are approaching a tax apron, already in one, or completely buried with no room to navigate any of what could be out there.

If there's movement to be made, it's going to be in the lower to middle end of benches and not at the tops where it's more exciting.

[DusterBuster]

That's part of it. But I don't think they are looking for a microwave scorer that doesn't defend.

That's fair.

I've watched a few Ws games this year and... they do struggle to score, at least relative to where the league is now and where they used to stand in relation to the rest of the league. Which is weird. Ant may not be the answer but I think he'd score in buckets in that system.

The problem for Kuminga is his contract. Flashing breakout moments when he's been pretty hot/cold his whole career is a tough sell for a guy needing a new contract this summer. If you're the team trading for him, do you give him a huge contract to keep him after the summer comes? JK is a huge gamble, so for me, I would only value him as a kick-the-tires kind of player, but probably wouldn't break the bank to resign him. So his value is more in his contract than him as a player. If GSW is going to try and cash out on him as a player... that complicates things like you said. It's going to massively unbalance any deal the Warriors try to do with JK, which is why I think he's actually pretty unlikely to be traded.

All that said, I would actually have no problem trading Simons to GSW without JK coming back if there's a way to make numbers work. Don't think there is, but me wanting to move Simons to GSW actually has literally to nothing to do with Kuminga. I just want Simons off the Blazers and for expiring contracts. I want an addition by subtraction trade to open up the starting role for Scoot.

I'm a bit of a Kuminga truther and think he's exactly the type of player the Blazers should target. If he hits, he's a first option/1b type with great defensive acumen. If he doesn't, you collect picks but at least you're younger. Blazers need to be taking risks now, imo. They've hit a lot of singles and look to have struck out with their big swing. His floor is probably a Harrison Barnes type, which is another single that you can always tuck your tail and move later.

I guess with Kuminga I can take or leave him. I'm not as high on him as most and the Blazers have players I think project to be better than him at his position with Camara (much better defender and all around player) and Deni Advija (ditto, can be a point forward type, better defender and has an outside shot). What the Blazers seem to want to build, Kuminga is a fit, but not a perfect fit. If they can get him and can take a look, great, otherwise I'm ok passing.

I'm also somewhat jaded on Warriors players. The Blazers have taken a flier on more than a couple of them in the Curry era and they all are pretty underwhelming, if not straight up bad, out side of Kerr's system or not playing alongside the GOAT shooter.

Same thing happened with Poole. Whatever flaws a player is seen to have had in Golden State get amplified 10 times once they're not on a team with Curry's orbit.