Why didn’t the Bulls trade Vucevic?
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Incompetence.
The Bulls had an incompetent front office, then they replaced it with an equally, if not more, incompetent one.
One of the worst run teams in the league for a long time.
The Bulls had an incompetent front office, then they replaced it with an equally, if not more, incompetent one.
One of the worst run teams in the league for a long time.
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vxmike wrote:OldSchoolNoBull wrote:Two teams were reportedly interested at the deadline, but GSW disappeared as an option after acquiring Jimmy, and LAL it seems chose Mark Williams(you wonder if they wish they'd gone for Vuc at this point).
GSW should have traded for Vuc even more after the Jimmy trade. He would have fit great with Dray and Jimmy anchoring the defense.
Salary would make it tough though. Their depth is already questionable
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CIN-C-STAR wrote:ShouldaPaidBG wrote:They probably didn't receive many offers
I figured as much but with LA/Charlotte needing a center, Warriors reportedly interested, Spurs signing a center after the deadline…
Seems like they could have gotten something!
I honestly would have taken even a decent SRP, or included some SRPs of my own to get a pick swap like 8 years away or something lol.
They need to start accumulating assets imo.
I agree. My guess is either the Bulld GM wanted too much for him or didn't look around the league enough for offers.
A 2nd or two along with an expring contract would've been fine.
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Someone's gotta finish 10th
Asking the team why they didn't get assets for a player when the biggest thing they got for their best player was their first round pick back
Which was protected if they decided to tank anyways. Don't try to apply logic
Asking the team why they didn't get assets for a player when the biggest thing they got for their best player was their first round pick back
Which was protected if they decided to tank anyways. Don't try to apply logic
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I have no doubt that they tried, they been shopping him and Lavine for two years. The fact he is still a Bull is either very telling of Vucevic value, or Karnisovas' ability as manager, or most likely both.
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floppymoose wrote:Vuc is a good tank commander and would not fetch any rebuilding-friendly assets. Might as keep him for the offseason market where he will be an expiring deal.
Maybe they get lucky and he puts up bigger numbers from an increased diet with LaVine gone.
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CIN-C-STAR wrote:ShouldaPaidBG wrote:They probably didn't receive many offers
I figured as much but with LA/Charlotte needing a center, Warriors reportedly interested, Spurs signing a center after the deadline…
Seems like they could have gotten something!
I honestly would have taken even a decent SRP, or included some SRPs of my own to get a pick swap like 8 years away or something lol.
They need to start accumulating assets imo.
LA's looking for a guy who can catch lobs and block shots, and Charlotte should be actively tanking. The Spurs might have been an ok fit for a little while but I don't know if he'd really move any needles for them next year when they start trying to make the playoffs.
He'll be worth more in the off-season and like people are saying, it's not like he's boosting their win total this year.
As dumb as the Chicago FO seems to be at times, keeping him for now doesn't seem like that terrible of an idea.
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Bulls ownership have no interest in winning
I'm Italian, forgive me if my English is not good.
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Thaddy wrote:He's one of the few stretch C's in the league. They should be looking to sell him when his value is higher, there's no point in them doing it now.
one of the few stretch C's ? dang near every center is shooting 3s now
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Apz wrote:Thaddy wrote:He's one of the few stretch C's in the league. They should be looking to sell him when his value is higher, there's no point in them doing it now.
Are u a stretch c if u shoot lots of 3s but not hitting them? Or just a player that takes shots he shouldnt take and bad D. No team trying to win should trade for that. Basicly a vet min player on 20m deal
This would have made sense before this season but he's shooting well from 3.
He's not a bad contract, just a bad fit for Chicago right now.
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According to reports they were trying until the last moment, I think he fits very well, he gives them space and although he is not a good defender (Green can cover him) he is an elite rebounder, a great passer for his position and can stretch the floor... Maybe they were scheduled to resume talks in the summer?? Kuminga (ST) for Vuc+Blazers FRP or Vuc+Lonzo..??... Kuminga does not seem like a good fit for Butler/GreenKingFox wrote:vxmike wrote:OldSchoolNoBull wrote:Two teams were reportedly interested at the deadline, but GSW disappeared as an option after acquiring Jimmy, and LAL it seems chose Mark Williams(you wonder if they wish they'd gone for Vuc at this point).
GSW should have traded for Vuc even more after the Jimmy trade. He would have fit great with Dray and Jimmy anchoring the defense.
Salary would make it tough though. Their depth is already questionable
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vxmike wrote:The owner likes to think they can compete for the play-in.
FTFY
Although Philly may push us into the 10 seed just from being comically inept..
I AM A BUSINESS MAN NOW
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UcanUwill wrote:I have no doubt that they tried, they been shopping him and Lavine for two years. The fact he is still a Bull is either very telling of Vucevic value, or Karnisovas' ability as manager, or most likely both.
Basically this..
In todays NBA your main center needs to be able to shoot 3 and run the rim. He also needs to defend at a high level as the days of playing one on one are over, they all switch. I dont think Vuc"s foot speed are athletic ability are good enough to be a high level starter for a contending team. He can score playing one on one which is nice coming off the bench, but you dont want to spend 20 million on a guy to get a few buckets while the starter is getting rest.
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Dez wrote:Apz wrote:Thaddy wrote:He's one of the few stretch C's in the league. They should be looking to sell him when his value is higher, there's no point in them doing it now.
Are u a stretch c if u shoot lots of 3s but not hitting them? Or just a player that takes shots he shouldnt take and bad D. No team trying to win should trade for that. Basicly a vet min player on 20m deal
This would have made sense before this season but he's shooting well from 3.
He's not a bad contract, just a bad fit for Chicago right now.
He is a bad contract, that’s why they couldn’t move him.
But he’s also not shooting the 3 well anymore either. He was on an unsustainable heater early in the year, which is when they should’ve traded him. Even salary dumped him. Not waiting for the deadline.
But no. Lust for the playin is like The One Ring for AK, so he held to the last minute and per usual failed to make a transaction in a timely manner.
Now he’s back to his usual self, Vucebricking it up. Unfortunately he’s capable of one-off hot nights and can hurt the tank.
Garbage sports franchise top to bottom. Still living off the teat of the Jordan dynasty, unable and unwilling to make new history.
Reinsdorf & Co. - sell the team!!
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/12/11/chicago-bulls-phoenix-suns-bad-ownership-robert-sarver-jerry-reinsdorf
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/12/11/chicago-bulls-phoenix-suns-bad-ownership-robert-sarver-jerry-reinsdorf
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Damn so much hate for big Vooch. He's actually a damn good player, it's just the Bulls are such a perennial disappointment they suck the life out of any players unfortunately enough to play for them.
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sashaturiaf wrote:Damn so much hate for big Vooch. He's actually a damn good player, it's just the Bulls are such a perennial disappointment they suck the life out of any players unfortunately enough to play for them.
Hes a bench center, but is paid too much to be desirable, he could have been good addition to contending team no doubt.
I always was known as Vooch hater, I just though he was overrated, because he was offense only center whos efficiency was under the radar way below average. People had this imagination that he is offensive savant and it is not true at all, I always said he was Monta Ellis of centers. He will be defensive liability as a big, he brings shooting, but over his career his shooting was never consistent, last season he was one of the worst volume shooters, this year hes been one of the best, go figure, but even when his shooting is great, he is not a guy you want to start I imagine, his weaknesses are just too apparent at this point, you could see it this season, in last game against Pistons, guy gets killed.
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UcanUwill wrote:sashaturiaf wrote:Damn so much hate for big Vooch. He's actually a damn good player, it's just the Bulls are such a perennial disappointment they suck the life out of any players unfortunately enough to play for them.
Hes a bench center, but is paid too much to be desirable, he could have been good addition to contending team no doubt.
I always was known as Vooch hater, I just though he was overrated, because he was offense only center whos efficiency was under the radar way below average. People had this imagination that he is offensive savant and it is not true at all, I always said he was Monta Ellis of centers. He will be defensive liability as a big, he brings shooting, but over his career his shooting was never consistent, last season he was one of the worst volume shooters, this year hes been one of the best, go figure, but even when his shooting is great, he is not a guy you want to start I imagine, his weaknesses are just too apparent at this point, you could see it this season, in last game against Pistons, guy gets killed.
Shooting 26.9% on 3s in 21 games in the new year. The first half was an anomaly. He’s crashing back to his norm.
Reinsdorf & Co. - sell the team!!
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/12/11/chicago-bulls-phoenix-suns-bad-ownership-robert-sarver-jerry-reinsdorf
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/12/11/chicago-bulls-phoenix-suns-bad-ownership-robert-sarver-jerry-reinsdorf
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He has no suitors that'll put up an offer the Bulls like. I don't think he has much of a market unless you're looking to fleece the bulls.
I personally wouldn't want him, at all.
I personally wouldn't want him, at all.

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Because they are a poverty franchise.
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From what I recall from the various reporting, Bulls thought he was worth a FRP, the rest of league (correctly) thought he wasn't. Sums it up. If Bulls were open to a second or two, Vooch would be on another team.