[Wiretap] Survey by "The Athletic" says 46% of NBA players polled don't approve the league's relationship with gambling

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Do you approve the NBA's association with gambling?

Yes
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7%
No
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86%
I don't have a formed opinion yet.
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Post#23 » by sp6r=underrated » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:03 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:I just don't like it shoved down our throats. Gambling ruins families the same way alcohol/drugs/cigarettes does. I don't need to be told every 2 minutes about any of these things lol


The gambling ads are even worse than the booze ads. The NBA now interrupts games to tell me I should bet on whose going to win a game in the 3rd quarter. Announcers don't tell me I should down shots of whiskey while Jokic is taking a FT.
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Post#24 » by ReggiesKnicks » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:05 pm

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I am pretty sure more than 46% of NBA player would want to remove Adelsons...

As for gampling, you can understand players hating on it, since they get death threats from idiots who lose their stupid bets. That said, gambling is just that, it is something adult person should be allowed to do, I find it sad that a country that champions for owning guns as their right and freedom, goes at gambling as right that is below tools to kill in every idiots pocket.

Now, should Sports leagues partner with betting agencies is another story, but in history, basically everyone who offered most cash was able to be a sponsor of sports leagues, so its nothing new.


So I assume you are talking about the United States here. There are restrictions surrounding guns. There are very few restrictions regarding gambling.

Most people want to see restrictions around fire arms and gambling.


What restrictions are on gambling and which ones are missing, if you have an opinion?

Over where I live, only adults can gamble for starters, and there are also firewalls for gambling addicts, I believe anyone can lock themselves from gambling if they have a problem, as you need o identify yourself anytime you place a bet. And I believe other specialists, like doctors, psychiatrists maybe can put a lock on your gambling. I think that is minimum that needs to be done with gambling in any country, but I do also believe that gambling is a right that people should have.


My simplest solution and restriction would be to only allow gambling at designated areas--ideally casino's only.

No gambling from smart phones or on the internet. Make it in-person only.
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Post#25 » by hugepatsfan » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:12 pm

Reading the quotes from players, it comes off like more of an issue with FAN'S relationship with gambling, but accepting that fans are going to be ass holes about it they'd rather just sever league ties from it completely.

I think the more reasonable response here would be people not being so self absorbed, ignorant and flat out bad people to send death threats or racist remarks to someone for "ruining their parlay". This feels more of a humans treating other humans with decency thing to me.
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Post#26 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:28 pm

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Tor_Raps wrote:I just don't like it shoved down our throats. Gambling ruins families the same way alcohol/drugs/cigarettes does. I don't need to be told every 2 minutes about any of these things lol


The gambling ads are even worse than the booze ads. The NBA now interrupts games to tell me I should bet on whose going to win a game in the 3rd quarter. Announcers don't tell me I should down shots of whiskey while Jokic is taking a FT.


That's exactly what I'm saying. Imagine hearing every 2 minute "have you taken a shot yet?" Lol
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Post#27 » by Hangtime84 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:37 pm

If I was a player I would t like it…but it is a big reason why sports have exploded and got fans invested and the larger contracts so I would accept that players do benefit from this
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Post#28 » by KGDirkTD_Fan » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:45 pm

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Tor_Raps wrote:I just don't like it shoved down our throats. Gambling ruins families the same way alcohol/drugs/cigarettes does. I don't need to be told every 2 minutes about any of these things lol


The gambling ads are even worse than the booze ads. The NBA now interrupts games to tell me I should bet on whose going to win a game in the 3rd quarter. Announcers don't tell me I should down shots of whiskey while Jokic is taking a FT.


That's exactly what I'm saying. Imagine hearing every 2 minute "have you taken a shot yet?" Lol

Guys you don't understand I need Silver to tell me to take 2 zyns and a shot of whiskey when my team is down 50 pts to the Thunder.
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Post#29 » by dhsilv2 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:46 pm

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Tor_Raps wrote:I just don't like it shoved down our throats. Gambling ruins families the same way alcohol/drugs/cigarettes does. I don't need to be told every 2 minutes about any of these things lol


The gambling ads are even worse than the booze ads. The NBA now interrupts games to tell me I should bet on whose going to win a game in the 3rd quarter. Announcers don't tell me I should down shots of whiskey while Jokic is taking a FT.


Yeah, it's one thing to have a draft king logo somewhere. But the CONSTANT talking about it...
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Post#30 » by Snakebites » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:48 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:Reading the quotes from players, it comes off like more of an issue with FAN'S relationship with gambling, but accepting that fans are going to be ass holes about it they'd rather just sever league ties from it completely.

I think the more reasonable response here would be people not being so self absorbed, ignorant and flat out bad people to send death threats or racist remarks to someone for "ruining their parlay". This feels more of a humans treating other humans with decency thing to me.


Yes of course it would be nice if certain people wouldn’t behave the way that they do. I’m not sure what on earth that has to do with the decisions the league should make and have already made.

Jerks are out there. That’s never going to change. Decisions should be made with that in mind. If choices are being made that are leading to an increase in threats and harassment, maybe those decisions shouldn’t have been made. Maybe they should be reversed or backtracked on.
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Post#31 » by Clav » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:56 pm

chilluminati wrote:Gambling is cancerous to your brain. Period.

I HATE how much gambling rhetoric is shoved down our throats. All of these betting lines, expert betting analysts, manipulative commercials, etc etc I could go on with the examples but it's not a good look, it's scummy.

It's changed our sport and how fans interact with it, in a negative way. I don't even want the fans that gambling attracted to the sport, because they're mentally ugly and ignorant. It's just the truth. If you started watching this sport to bet on it, I sincerely hope you can find other hobbies in a much healthier way.

I might seem judgemental, but this is something we've deemed as bad for humans before, but have eased up on our morals for profit. It's ugly



Completely agree. It [gambling] changes the framing of sports conversation away from logical discourse and more towards "I'm right, you're wrong" (in terms of what props to hit on).

I'm an MMA fan too, and many times discord group I'm part of will be unrepentant A-holes if you pick a fight incorrectly with a bet attached to it. I know that it is a 1v1 encounter in terms of combat sports, but it drastically changes the conversation surrounding the sport from the matchup/technical discussion, strategic changes, to "Which person's picks will I 'fade' next". It's annoying first off, but legitimately a disease to be consumed by placing wagers on basically everything they can.
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Post#32 » by hauntedcomputer » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:59 pm

Yet 100 percent of owners approve. Funny how that works.
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Post#33 » by NZB2323 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:00 pm

chilluminati wrote:Gambling is cancerous to your brain. Period.

I HATE how much gambling rhetoric is shoved down our throats. All of these betting lines, expert betting analysts, manipulative commercials, etc etc I could go on with the examples but it's not a good look, it's scummy.

It's changed our sport and how fans interact with it, in a negative way. I don't even want the fans that gambling attracted to the sport, because they're mentally ugly and ignorant. It's just the truth. If you started watching this sport to bet on it, I sincerely hope you can find other hobbies in a much healthier way.

I might seem judgemental, but this is something we've deemed as bad for humans before, but have eased up on our morals for profit. It's ugly


I don’t know man. Beer and fast food aren’t healthy and those have been advertised in sports since before I was born.
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Post#34 » by Lalouie » Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:01 pm

now that AI has become the new think tank

let's put it use by asking salivating questions like "how is gambling changing sports and is it a good or bad thing" and "is adam silver the legitimate child of vampyre"
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Post#35 » by NZB2323 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:03 pm

Lalouie wrote:this is a blatant soul selling silver move


The NBA is a business and David Stern would be proud.
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Post#36 » by f4p » Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:04 pm

Why wasn't there an over/under on the percentage so I could have bet on it?
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Post#37 » by Scalabrine » Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:11 pm

I hate it personally. It's ruined most good analysis and coverage of the game and changed the way it's watched for the worse in my opinion.

That being said, the players have all received a significant raise as a direct result of it, which I'm sure they all approve of, so when push comes to shove, I doubt it's going anywhere even if most of them don't like it for various reasons.
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Post#38 » by Lalouie » Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:15 pm

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Lalouie wrote:this is a blatant soul selling silver move


The NBA is a business and David Stern would be proud.


as my answer involves silver i assume your validation is a validation of silver

the nba's recent growth MIRRORS the graph almost exactly of the big4 sports, save mlb, even with the nba's major assist of social media and foreign interest

in other words, the nba hasn't needed silver. someone would have to be a complete idiot to derail sports
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Post#39 » by chilluminati » Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:20 pm

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chilluminati wrote:Gambling is cancerous to your brain. Period.

I HATE how much gambling rhetoric is shoved down our throats. All of these betting lines, expert betting analysts, manipulative commercials, etc etc I could go on with the examples but it's not a good look, it's scummy.

It's changed our sport and how fans interact with it, in a negative way. I don't even want the fans that gambling attracted to the sport, because they're mentally ugly and ignorant. It's just the truth. If you started watching this sport to bet on it, I sincerely hope you can find other hobbies in a much healthier way.

I might seem judgemental, but this is something we've deemed as bad for humans before, but have eased up on our morals for profit. It's ugly


I don’t know man. Beer and fast food aren’t healthy and those have been advertised in sports since before I was born.


All of it isn't good, most commercials and things of this nature are predatory. I get your angle, but gambling is becoming intrusive to those who don't want to participate. I can watch that McDonalds commercial and know mentally that I'm not going to go and buy any. With gambling I can do the same thing, but the difference is that the league is hiring expert bettors and we have segments on betting, we have this external predatory practice becoming a part of the sport.
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Post#40 » by sp6r=underrated » Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:33 pm

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chilluminati wrote:Gambling is cancerous to your brain. Period.

I HATE how much gambling rhetoric is shoved down our throats. All of these betting lines, expert betting analysts, manipulative commercials, etc etc I could go on with the examples but it's not a good look, it's scummy.

It's changed our sport and how fans interact with it, in a negative way. I don't even want the fans that gambling attracted to the sport, because they're mentally ugly and ignorant. It's just the truth. If you started watching this sport to bet on it, I sincerely hope you can find other hobbies in a much healthier way.

I might seem judgemental, but this is something we've deemed as bad for humans before, but have eased up on our morals for profit. It's ugly



Completely agree. It [gambling] changes the framing of sports conversation away from logical discourse and more towards "I'm right, you're wrong" (in terms of what props to hit on).

I'm an MMA fan too, and many times discord group I'm part of will be unrepentant A-holes if you pick a fight incorrectly with a bet attached to it. I know that it is a 1v1 encounter in terms of combat sports, but it drastically changes the conversation surrounding the sport from the matchup/technical discussion, strategic changes, to "Which person's picks will I 'fade' next". It's annoying first off, but legitimately a disease to be consumed by placing wagers on basically everything they can.


A major reason I turned harshly against sports gambling is how it degraded sports conversation for me. As an example during an NCAA tourny game, I was tweeting and mentioned I couldn't get why teams foul when it is a 12 point game with 35 secs to go, which NBA teams never do.

I was genuinely curious why NCAA teams continue fouling long after the game seems over (to my NBA eyes). Instead of getting an answer all I got were arguments about over/unders. And that just isn't fun.

I have a group chat with old friends from school (I graduated 15+ yrs ago). It used to be strictly sports now a lot of the guys talk less about the games and way more about bets.

Besides being really unhealthy as you said it degrades the experience of being a sports fan. I don't want to associate myself with such an activity.
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