How does Denver retool in the offseason (Who wants Murray/MPJ?)

[JustBuzzin]

OP did not even mention Jokic. It was a thread on how Denver can get better as a team. You're the one that brought this nonsense into this thread. So I guess Denver fans can't talk about how to improve their team, because Jokic is on it.

Look at the comments in the game thread bro. Jokic teammates are the only one getting blame.

This a team sport Jokic is on that team he's not exempt from criticism. Win as a team and lose as a team.


Tell me I'm wrong and explain why then I will gladly apologize, but you know you can't because it's the truth!

People were criticizing Jokic plenty the past few games where he shot like crap and turned the ball over like crazy.

He was masterful this game. His teammates couldn't hit any shots and let him down.

He was on the court right?

He was on the team that loss right?

They loss as a team. If Jokic and his teammates played better they would have won this game.

You can't blame his teammates when he was literally on the same court as his teammates. It makes you look like you only care about Jokic and nobody else.

Are you just a Jokic fan mate?

[Optms]

MPJ would be a good fit for the Lakers with Lebron and Luka. Reaves + filler for MPJ. Idk if MPJ is as negative asset

Lakers need a big. Not another wing. And hell no. Reeves is 10x better than MPJ and on a better contract. Nice try.

[zimpy27]

Lakers get Murray

Denver get Reaves+Rui+Kleber

[ball_takes23]

Lakers get Murray

Denver get Reaves+Rui+Kleber

lakers say hell no

[chilluminati]

Injury history plus bad contracts does not equal high trade value. Gordon probably has the 2nd highest trade value on that roster.

The teams that would want Porter/Murray won't have the assets Denver would want back. And the teams that do have those assets have no reason to go after them.

[BigGargamel]

Look at the comments in the game thread bro. Jokic teammates are the only one getting blame.

This a team sport Jokic is on that team he's not exempt from criticism. Win as a team and lose as a team.


Tell me I'm wrong and explain why then I will gladly apologize, but you know you can't because it's the truth!

People were criticizing Jokic plenty the past few games where he shot like crap and turned the ball over like crazy.

He was masterful this game. His teammates couldn't hit any shots and let him down.

He was on the court right?

He was on the team that loss right?

They loss as a team. If Jokic and his teammates played better they would have won this game.

You can't blame his teammates when he was literally on the same court as his teammates. It makes you look like you only care about Jokic and nobody else.

Are you just a Jokic fan mate?

I've been a Nuggets fan since 1994. I suffered through the Vincent Yarbrough/Junior Harrington teams.

I don't really go into threads of other teams I know little about and spout extreme generalization comments.

This thread is about how a team can improve. But here you are with the extremely basic TikTok level ESPN takes that add nothing of value to the conversation whatsoever.

You've admitted that you didn't like Flagg because of the hype. So you probably don't like Jokic because he's talked about all the time. Your posts prove just that, and mostly deserve to be ignored.

[Wolfgang630]

The problem is MPJ probably has dog **** trade value. Everyone sees how much of a scrub he is with the amount of money he makes and Murray is not a real number 2 and is very inconsistent. What can they even get?

[durden_tyler]

Murray and MPJ for the Wagner brothers— hoping the Magic is dumb enough to take the deal.


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[BigGargamel]

The problem is MPJ probably has dog **** trade value. Everyone sees how much of a scrub he is with the amount of money he makes and Murray is not a real number 2 and is very inconsistent. What can they even get?

This is the problem. For as weak as these two are, they at least know how to play with Jokic and have won before. You trade them, you're going to downgrade talent wise, and probably add more bad long term contracts to your team. So the options are to.

1. Run it back with the same guys and hope to catch lightning in a bottle/play teams with injured players in the playoffs.
2. Take on bad contracts for stars nearing the end (Durant?) and perhaps end up with a Milwaukee situation down the road.

I thought about gambling on someone like Trae Young, but why would Atlanta want any part of MPJ or Murray? They're not All Stars even when playing with Jokic. What value relative to their contracts could they possibly offer to a rebuilding team?

Denver has no first round picks to trade. Not even second rounders, had to trade the last one they had just to get rid of Reggie Jackson.

Denver is completely screwed with assets to seriously upgrade this roster.

Christian Braun is the only talented young starter on the team, and he's not bringing a superstar through that door.

[PushDaRock]

No one is taking both of these contracts and offering anything worthwhile. They know these are two role players who will be worse off without Jokic, like basically every player that leaves Denver. Plus, Denver has no draft picks to trade. People don't realize how badly Booth screwed this team. They really have no ability to get better. Best bet is to bring in different players and hope new blood rejuvenates the team.

How about some old blood?



They definitely need to try to shed MPJ though, he's a liability on any contract.

lol I would expect this to happen, Brown was pretty awful and hurt most of the year so probably takes a cheap deal here where he's had success in the past.

[JustBuzzin]

People were criticizing Jokic plenty the past few games where he shot like crap and turned the ball over like crazy.

He was masterful this game. His teammates couldn't hit any shots and let him down.

He was on the court right?

He was on the team that loss right?

They loss as a team. If Jokic and his teammates played better they would have won this game.

You can't blame his teammates when he was literally on the same court as his teammates. It makes you look like you only care about Jokic and nobody else.

Are you just a Jokic fan mate?

I've been a Nuggets fan since 1994. I suffered through the Vincent Yarbrough/Junior Harrington teams.

I don't really go into threads of other teams I know little about and spout extreme generalization comments.

This thread is about how a team can improve. But here you are with the extremely basic TikTok level ESPN takes that add nothing of value to the conversation whatsoever.

You've admitted that you didn't like Flagg because of the hype. So you probably don't like Jokic because he's talked about all the time. Your posts prove just that, and mostly deserve to be ignored.

You are trolling me at this point. I'm done here man.

[Wolfgang630]

JustTrollin got nothing better to do with their life

[PushDaRock]

probably fire their scouts and development staff and overhaul their whole program

[HotRocks34]

Their #1 issue is depth. It's why they faded in the 4Qs of Games 4 and 5.

Get some halfway decent depth and that would improve things a lot.

[Asianiac_24]

MPJ would be a good fit for the Lakers with Lebron and Luka. Reaves + filler for MPJ. Idk if MPJ is as negative asset

Denver would take that in a heartbeat. Reaves is a better player than MPJ

[Optms]

Lakers get Murray

Denver get Reaves+Rui+Kleber

Replace Murray with Gordon and maybe.

[DaddyCool19]

If they had lowballed MPJ into a fair contract back then, he probably would be paid 10M less and has some sort of value to teams, who are looking for a sniper, who can give you 16-20 points per game.

But with that contract the best you can do is maybe turn him into someone like Pat Williams and filler, if Chicago regrets that contract and thinks they can showcase MPJ for a year and then trade him as an expiring in 2026.

[BigGargamel]

Lakers get Murray

Denver get Reaves+Rui+Kleber

Replace Murray with Gordon and maybe.

@ maybe

You Lakers fans sure do overrate Reaves.

[Peregrine01]

Lakers get Murray

Denver get Reaves+Rui+Kleber

No chance in hell that Lakers do that. Unless Reaves wants out and specifically requests for Denver.

[Jedi32]

It's sad how many people act like this Denver team is trash. They've battled injuries and replacing a coach recently and are still putting up a fight against a great team.