2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West Semifinals: #6 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #7 Golden State Warriors (MIN WINS 4-1)

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Who wins Game 5?

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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West Semifinals: #6 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #7 Golden State Warriors (MIN leads 3-1) 

Post#21 » by LSWF » Wed May 14, 2025 6:26 pm

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LSWF wrote:If Ant ever starts flopping for calls, it will be a very sad day for me. I can't stand unethical BB.

In game 2 , moment he started badly and could not break, he had a spate of foul cals for him and since that gsw have not been able to defend him and randle physically. Reference 4,5 6th foul called on Green.
Steph would have a field If this only this kind of defence was allowed.
Refs have laid down that they are willing are ruthless enough to foul out players without any leeway. Without being allowed to play physical defence, the defence minded warriors have no chance.
NBA made some changes because of the extremely low scoring 2nd game. But this gives a limited offence gsw no chance if they are not allowed to defend as they have been doing earlier.

I don't recall him turning into a podz or a sga or a Luka. IMO Ant historically has gotten a poor whistle. If he ever becomes a free throw merchant like so many of the current stars of this league, it will suck.
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Post#22 » by Sandy333 » Wed May 14, 2025 6:39 pm

Please watch game 2 again , and after the sprain the he started getting the calls.
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Post#23 » by LSWF » Wed May 14, 2025 6:49 pm

Please watch podz run into ju fall over like a rag doll
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West Semifinals: #6 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #7 Golden State Warriors (MIN leads 3-1) 

Post#24 » by LSWF » Wed May 14, 2025 6:50 pm

The Green foul on McD dunk was a foul...deal with it
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Post#25 » by LSWF » Wed May 14, 2025 6:54 pm

LSWF wrote:The Green foul on McD dunk attempt was a foul...deal with it
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Post#26 » by AbeVigodaLive » Wed May 14, 2025 7:02 pm

Sandy333 wrote:
LSWF wrote:If Ant ever starts flopping for calls, it will be a very sad day for me. I can't stand unethical BB.

In game 2 , moment he started badly and could not break, he had a spate of foul cals for him and since that gsw have not been able to defend him and randle physically. Reference 4,5 6th foul called on Green.
Steph would have a field If this only this kind of defence was allowed.
Refs have laid down that they are willing are ruthless enough to foul out players without any leeway. Without being allowed to play physical defence, the defence minded warriors have no chance.
NBA made some changes because of the extremely low scoring 2nd game. But this gives a limited offence gsw no chance if they are not allowed to defend as they have been doing earlier.



Game 2? Ummm... huh?

- Minnesota was up by 14 in Game 2... in the 1st quarter. It was a blowout.
- Green only had 1 foul in Game 2.
- The Wolves scored 117 points in game 2...

Wanna just scratch this one... start new and try again? LOL.
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Post#27 » by Mavrelous » Wed May 14, 2025 7:09 pm

Jalen Brunson was one of the most "ethical hoopers" in Dallas, when het got his own team he inderstood he had to get his hands dirty, Ant will learn someday.
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Post#28 » by LSWF » Wed May 14, 2025 7:14 pm

Sandy333 wrote:Please watch game 2 again , and after the sprain the he started getting the calls.

In the first minute and a half of the third podz, Kuminga and Buddy fouled Julius, Gobert and McDanies with no calls. You should watch the game.
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Post#29 » by LSWF » Wed May 14, 2025 7:24 pm

I suppose my devotion to NBA fandom for nearly fifty years makes me an old fashioned kind of thinker. And I am old. Changes to the game make me pine for the 80's rivalry between Celtics and Lakers. The thing I miss most is not having to watch players flop.
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Post#30 » by DonaldSanders » Wed May 14, 2025 7:42 pm

I really haven't seen a problem with officiating this series. It's been inconsistent, so both sides can point out to missed calls and ticky tack calls. I thought Scott Foster was wrong on that pivotal block/charge call in Game 3 on Draymond, but such is NBA life and it was just one call and I'm sure Wolves fans have a key call they didn't like. Refs not a factor.
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Post#31 » by Beethoven » Wed May 14, 2025 7:43 pm

Hope Minnesota wipes them out tonite. Good riddance.
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Post#32 » by Dan33185 » Wed May 14, 2025 9:04 pm

Revived wrote:If you’re a TWolves fan, aren’t you curious at all to see if your team can beat the Warriors with Curry playing? Like come on, lose tonight and then let’s find out if they can beat Warriors with Steph back.

I think Minnesota still would beat them but let’s avoid all doubt.


Sure I am, but so what? It doesn't change anything that is happening now.
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Post#33 » by shrink » Wed May 14, 2025 9:37 pm

Revived wrote:If you’re a TWolves fan, aren’t you curious at all to see if your team can beat the Warriors with Curry playing? Like come on, lose tonight and then let’s find out if they can beat Warriors with Steph back.

I think Minnesota still would beat them but let’s avoid all doubt.

It’s not going to remove the doubt of a GSW fan who posted that the “Warriors win in a gentleman’s sweep with Curry.” They’ll just say, “you got three wins without him.”

The truth is, Ant rises to the occasion. Wolves beat Jokic last year when DEN was heavily favored. Wolves beat KD 4-0 last year when PHX was the trendy pick with jump shooters. Wolves beat Luka and LeBron this year when the Lakers were heavily favored. It’s hard for me to believe Curry is better, could lead an UNDERDOG Warriors team to beat MIN, if Ant got up for the games to dispatch another superstar. But that’s all speculation.

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Post#34 » by LSWF » Wed May 14, 2025 9:42 pm

Those who wish for a game six thinking Curry will save the day need to realize that the Warriors stars are not who they once were. Furthermore, the drafting and development of young players these last few years has not gone well.

We are in real time seeing the emergence of very talented young players. Brunson, Haliburton, Edwards, Wemby and many others are taking over. And it's fantastic!
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Post#35 » by GiannisAnte34 » Wed May 14, 2025 9:50 pm

LSWF wrote:Those who wish for a game six thinking Curry will save the day need to realize that the Warriors stars are not who they once were. Furthermore, the drafting and development of young players these last few years has not gone well.

We are in real time seeing the emergence of very talented young players. Brunson, Haliburton, Edwards, Wemby and many others are taking over. And it's fantastic!


Will Silver really allow multiple series to end in 5 games? Plenty of money on the table in rd 2
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Post#36 » by LSWF » Wed May 14, 2025 10:05 pm

GiannisAnte34 wrote:
LSWF wrote:Those who wish for a game six thinking Curry will save the day need to realize that the Warriors stars are not who they once were. Furthermore, the drafting and development of young players these last few years has not gone well.

We are in real time seeing the emergence of very talented young players. Brunson, Haliburton, Edwards, Wemby and many others are taking over. And it's fantastic!


Will Silver really allow multiple series to end in 5 games? Plenty of money on the table in rd 2

I think the Wolves may have to snatch the souls of Warriors fans in game six. They are not as hungry at home as on the road. I also believe the world is round.
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Post#37 » by ___Rand___ » Wed May 14, 2025 10:36 pm

Wolves are far too superior. But only if they don't fall asleep here.
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Post#38 » by ___Rand___ » Wed May 14, 2025 10:37 pm

I'm pondering rooting for Warriors to win this game just so I don't have to see Dray's ugly face on TNT half time show anytime soon.
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Post#39 » by DonaldSanders » Wed May 14, 2025 10:42 pm

cupcakesnake wrote:I'm pro-Steph's defense. I think he has fantastic awareness, is a little stronger than people think, and a couple years ago he even gave you a pinch of rim protection with his well timed help defense in the paint. Years ago, when teams would hunt him, I'd feel like.... sure go for it. You might get a few buckets, but you're not generating amazing offense by iso'ing Steph that much.

However, the man is old and small and the Wolves are young and big. Houston lacked a ton of perimeter punch. Fred can't score inside 3, Jalen Green is not a serious player, and the rest of the guys can't score outside 3. Steph had plenty of ways to contribute. Steph against the Wolves... I want to be clear that I'm not saying Steph would be some big hole or target. What I'm saying is that Steph makes your lineups smaller and more offensively skewed. One more small guy closing out on 6'9" shooters. One more small guy who might have to switch onto Gobert to box out, or close out and guard a Jaden drive. One more bad matchup for Ant. The Wolves just present more bad situations for the Warriors than Houston could.

The Warriors without Steph have had a clear strategy. Go all out on defense, and hope we can scrap together some points on the other end through Buddy 3s, Jimmy improvising, Kuminga rim pressure, and hey let's hope some random dudes hit shots (Draymond!). They play as bigger than they like to with Steph. More minutes for GP2, Kuminga, and Looney. They want Ant to drive into the paint, surround him and crowd his reads, and then scramble out to stop drives. Steph doesn't help with this kind of coverage. Kerr is specifically trying to be like: what new strength can we unearth without Steph?


I generally agree with this as most of the points are fair, but I guess the implication seemed to be that Steph would hurt the defense significantly in terms of changing the match-up (with match-up change being what I originally replied to). Maybe I misunderstood.

I think the Wolves have been having an easier time on offense in some ways because of how difficult it has been for the Warriors to score with Steph out. There's been so many bricks laid by Warrior players that it naturally makes offense easier for the Wolves. Sure in half court sets I think the Warriors have a better defender than Steph to sub in and often do late in games for single possessions. But it's like looking at Jokic's defensive impact stats where people expect some big negative but it's just not there, the ball going in just makes defense so much easier. If Steph hurts the defense I don't think it's by very much considering how often the Wolves aren't in half court sets vs. when he does play.

Playoff EFG%, Warriors backcourt:

Podz:
Steph ON: 52%
Steph OFF: 26%

Gary:
Steph ON: 62%
Steph OFF: 42%

Moody:
Steph ON: 49%
Steph OFF: 35%

Buddy:
Steph ON: 63%
Steph OFF: 52%

This is just brutal.
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West Semifinals: #6 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #7 Golden State Warriors (MIN leads 3-1) 

Post#40 » by TrueFan420 » Wed May 14, 2025 11:31 pm

funkatron101 wrote:
Revived wrote:If you’re a TWolves fan, aren’t you curious at all to see if your team can beat the Warriors with Curry playing? Like come on, lose tonight and then let’s find out if they can beat Warriors with Steph back.

No.

Minnesota sports is plagued with bad luck. No point in tempting fate. Win however you can, whenever you can. Move on to the next challenge.

Hahahah I feel that, you beat who’s in front of you. Having said that, as a Warriors fan, you sure bro? Don’t you want know if you can contain Steph for just 1 game.

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