Rick Carlisle is a cheat code. It's almost not fair

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Re: Rick Carlisle is a cheat code. It's almost not fair 

Post#21 » by BruttoNostra » Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:22 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:Carlisle IS one of the few legit good coaches but let's not give him more credit than he deserves. The Pacers have arguably the deepest team in the league and a well-constructed rotation of complimentary pieces. They're a very good team. Yes the Thunder have more talent but it's not an overwhelming advantage and wouldn't be them choking if they lost. Credit should go to the Pacers

To be fair - the reason those complimentary pieces are contributing is they got decent minutes in the RS and so far in the postseason as well (yes, I'm looking at you, JJ - your team played such an abysmal basketball that Delton Knecht couldn't make it any worse)
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Re: Rick Carlisle is a cheat code. It's almost not fair 

Post#22 » by eric365 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:22 am

The only coach I would have prefered to Pop during the end of the Big 3 spurs era (2012 - 2016)
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Re: Rick Carlisle is a cheat code. It's almost not fair 

Post#23 » by Mavrelous » Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:52 am

BruttoNostra wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:Carlisle IS one of the few legit good coaches but let's not give him more credit than he deserves. The Pacers have arguably the deepest team in the league and a well-constructed rotation of complimentary pieces. They're a very good team. Yes the Thunder have more talent but it's not an overwhelming advantage and wouldn't be them choking if they lost. Credit should go to the Pacers

To be fair - the reason those complimentary pieces are contributing is they got decent minutes in the RS and so far in the postseason as well (yes, I'm watching at you, JJ - your team played such an abysmal basketball that Delton Knecht couldn't make it any worse)


Even players who get regular RS minutes get buried in the PO, most coaches would have buried McConnel (spacing concerns) and Toppin (defesne and lack of positional versatility) on the bench in the PO at the 1st sight of adversity, RC played Thomas Bryant (10MPG) and Jarace Walker (10MPG) more than JJ played Jaxon Hayes in the PO (8MPG), when Hayes was 20MPG player in RS and Lakers need C minutes, Kidd reduced Exum from 20MPG to 7MPG and the Mavs were really scrambling for guard minutes.
It's not that JJ and Kidd didn't have reasons to bench them, they did screw up, but RC knows how to work around these screw ups, and always knew how to squeeze the most of his players.
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Re: Rick Carlisle is a cheat code. It's almost not fair 

Post#24 » by KGtabake » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:00 am

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MasterIchiro wrote:What dumbest organization on the planet would surrender the following?:

Luka
Brunson
Carlisle



The thing is that these 3 couldn't work together.
Brunson would have not been the player you see now with Carlisle.


Even if we say this is facts, that means they should have 2 of the 3 still


Yes. But Brunson doesn't get along with Carlisle. That's what i figure.
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Post#25 » by carrrnuttt » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:30 am

Rick Carlisle is the anti Doc Rivers.

He might still lose this series after being ahead, but it won't be because of his lack of adjustments or inability to leverage his team's talents.
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Re: Rick Carlisle is a cheat code. It's almost not fair 

Post#26 » by Sane » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:46 am

Beating Rick Carlisle requires taking advantage of his non-elite defensive coaching. That means the opponent's coach has to be offensive AND defensively elite. I don't know if Daignault is that.

Right now it feels like Carlisle is throwing the punches and Daignault is reacting. The best coaches are the ones who maintain their identity and throw the punches. Yes you have to make adjustments at times, but overall you are the one who starts the fight.
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Re: Rick Carlisle is a cheat code. It's almost not fair 

Post#27 » by Karate Diop » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:48 am

Mavrelous wrote:
CometGM wrote:Twitter: Pacers decline Knicks interview with Rick Carlisle.


:lol:
On a serious note, fat chance Knicks would appraoch him, Brunson didn't like him at all, Rick also never believed in him.


It's kind of understandable though, the exact reason Rick had trouble trusting Brunson is why the Knicks lost.
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Re: Rick Carlisle is a cheat code. It's almost not fair 

Post#28 » by dirkdiggler4177 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:48 am

MasterIchiro wrote:What dumbest organization on the planet would surrender the following?:

Luka
Brunson
Carlisle


If Brunson played with Luka, we would never know how good he could be. Him and Luka are top 3 in ballhandling time in the league, with Trae Young somewhere in the middel. Meaning they both need the ball to be who they are. So it would never be as good as people think.

Also, Luka and Rick would never work togheter in the long run. Luka needs a relaxed player coach. Rick's best teams are the pistons, pacers, Mavs and then pacers again. All balanced team with no superstar.
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Re: Rick Carlisle is a cheat code. It's almost not fair 

Post#29 » by cupcakesnake » Thu Jun 12, 2025 11:22 am

Mavrelous wrote:
BruttoNostra wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:Carlisle IS one of the few legit good coaches but let's not give him more credit than he deserves. The Pacers have arguably the deepest team in the league and a well-constructed rotation of complimentary pieces. They're a very good team. Yes the Thunder have more talent but it's not an overwhelming advantage and wouldn't be them choking if they lost. Credit should go to the Pacers

To be fair - the reason those complimentary pieces are contributing is they got decent minutes in the RS and so far in the postseason as well (yes, I'm watching at you, JJ - your team played such an abysmal basketball that Delton Knecht couldn't make it any worse)


Even players who get regular RS minutes get buried in the PO, most coaches would have buried McConnel (spacing concerns) and Toppin (defesne and lack of positional versatility) on the bench in the PO at the 1st sight of adversity, RC played Thomas Bryant (10MPG) and Jarace Walker (10MPG) more than JJ played Jaxon Hayes in the PO (8MPG), when Hayes was 20MPG player in RS and Lakers need C minutes, Kidd reduced Exum from 20MPG to 7MPG and the Mavs were really scrambling for guard minutes.
It's not that JJ and Kidd didn't have reasons to bench them, they did screw up, but RC knows how to work around these screw ups, and always knew how to squeeze the most of his players.


Indiana's players are always playing so aggressively towards their strengths, that their weaknesses feel like after thoughts. When TJ is on the floor, he has the ball in his hands and he's driving. When Obi is on the floor, he's being constantly weaponized as a play finisher. It's like every player is spamming their best actions all the time.

It's one thing to involve a guy in the rotation, but often fringe rotation guys are bystanders on offense, or at best get a couple plays run that involve them. A coach isn't likely to skew the whole offense for the 9th guy in the rotation. Carlisle does, and that's why every single Pacer feels liks a star in their role. In particular: Nembhard, Toppin, Nesmith, and TJ all play like they're the best player on the team.

Carlisle runs into guys he doesn't know what to do with. It's caused tension in the past. Rondo, OG Mayo to name a couple. I'm not sure he knows what to do with Mathurin or Jarace Walker.
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Re: Rick Carlisle is a cheat code. It's almost not fair 

Post#30 » by scrabbarista » Thu Jun 12, 2025 11:27 am

My nickame for him used to be GCoaT. Then he started tanking the end of seasons with Dallas, and I had to stop calling him that. But yeah, he's one of the best NBA coaches ever.
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Post#31 » by jkvonny » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:11 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:What dumbest organization on the planet would surrender the following?:

Luka
Brunson
Carlisle

Luka was an entitled whiney dumb azz . Didn't like listening to Carlisle.
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Post#32 » by kingr » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:21 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:What dumbest organization on the planet would surrender the following?:

Luka
Brunson
Carlisle


I thought there was an issue between Luka and Carlisle?
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Post#33 » by zimpy27 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:39 pm

Heard the after game interview with Mathurin and he said that Carlisle was the head of the snake, everyone just falls into place following his instruction.

Great coaching is worth so much in a series when the team is aligned and following them.
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Re: Rick Carlisle is a cheat code. It's almost not fair 

Post#34 » by SweetTouch » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:46 pm

I told y’all before but Y’all didn’t listen

You can’t count dirk as having the toughest ring when he had Ricky Rozay as his coach

Ricky tends to coach circles around opposing coaches
Stop being so disrespectful.
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Post#35 » by bigdamoan2k2 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:55 pm

Coaching has been solid, yes, but I had pacers in 6 before the series started simply because of the matchup and momentum. Outside of Shai, Pacers matchup well against OKC. Pascal is the only player with championship experience, Turner is a vet, Hali has been on a run and everyone else plays their role. OKC will be there for the next few years but they are still young. Pacers go up 3-1, lose in OKC then take home the chip back in Indy for game 6.
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Post#36 » by wegotthabeet » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:14 pm

Head coaching job offer incoming from the Knicks the day after the Finals…
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Post#37 » by metalinguss » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:19 pm

Capn'O wrote:His game to game adjustments in our series were unbelievable.

CometGM wrote:Twitter: Pacers decline Knicks interview with Rick Carlisle.


:lol:


In-game adjustments have been great as well.
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Post#38 » by Archx » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:24 pm

kingr wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:What dumbest organization on the planet would surrender the following?:

Luka
Brunson
Carlisle


I thought there was an issue between Luka and Carlisle?


Rick mostly had problems with DSJ and the front office. There was also tension between some of his coaching staff members as well and then later his best friend Donnie Nelson was fired and Rick resigned shortly after.. Luka just didn't like how he's treating DSJ when he tried to humiliate him in front of everyone. That was their issue. DSJ talked about this in an interview and said Luka simply defended him.

But KP and Rick that's another story, KP really didn't like Rick and vice versa.
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Post#39 » by Capn'O » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:46 pm

metalinguss wrote:
Capn'O wrote:His game to game adjustments in our series were unbelievable.

CometGM wrote:Twitter: Pacers decline Knicks interview with Rick Carlisle.


:lol:


In-game adjustments have been great as well.


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Post#40 » by ball_takes23 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:49 pm

Edrees wrote:
KGtabake wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:What dumbest organization on the planet would surrender the following?:

Luka
Brunson
Carlisle



The thing is that these 3 couldn't work together.
Brunson would have not been the player you see now with Carlisle.


Even if we say this is facts, that means they should have 2 of the 3 still


Luka and Carlisle didnt like each other either right? Obviously they should have just kept Carlisle

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