[Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers

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Who won this trade?

Poll ended at Tue Jul 8, 2025 2:29 pm

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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#21 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:34 pm

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BillessuR6 wrote:What are the Clippers doing?

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Selling high on an older guard coming off a career year when they have plenty of guard depth.


Is getting an expiring John Collins 'selling high'?


Given what other limited defensively, small guards have gone for on the market this year?

Yeah.

Utah paid a 2nd and received Nurkic.
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#22 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:35 pm

kwajo wrote:Kevin Love next up for retirement after this?
He may finally join LeBron in LA lol
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#23 » by -Luke- » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:36 pm

I'm confused. Why did the Clippers send a 2nd to Utah and not Miami? Clippers give up the best player in the trade AND the pick?
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#24 » by In-N-Out 247 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:36 pm

Just realized Slo-Mo has another year on his contract so that second to the Jazz is probably for that. Although I'd expect it to come from the Heat not that Clippers. Wondering if the Jazz will work on buyout with him.
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#25 » by djsunyc » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:36 pm

what is ainge doing? devaluing everyone on his roster?
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#26 » by Tor_Raps » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:37 pm

Wow... surprised Clippers traded Norm after he was getting a lot of allstar love last year. Collins has been pretty damn good when Utah wasnt holding him back.

Think Clippers realized they needed to be bigger in the playoffs so Kawhi didnt have to play PF. However, they only did so well in the regular season without Kawhi largely due to Norm helping carry them.
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#27 » by Wingy » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:38 pm

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BillessuR6 wrote:What are the Clippers doing?

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Salary dump? If so, why since Ballmer is so rich.


Expiring for expiring. Assume they don’t want to pay a big long term deal to a 32 y/o coming off a big year.

They get to kick the tires on a bigger, offensively productive NBA player that’s 4.5 years younger (if they do wish to resign him to a long term deal).
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#28 » by JB2 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:38 pm

A+ for Miami
B+ for Clippers
D- for Jazz
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#29 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:38 pm

In-N-Out 247 wrote:Just realized Slo-Mo has another year on his contract so that second to the Jazz is probably for that. Although I'd expect it to come from the Heat not that Clippers. Wondering if the Jazz will work on buyout with him.


SlowMo has 0 guaranteed next year.
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#30 » by Paradise » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:38 pm

-Luke- wrote:I'm confused. Why did the Clippers send a 2nd to Utah and not Miami? Clippers give up the best player in the trade AND the pick?

Because Utah is taking on Kyle Anderson.
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#31 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:39 pm

JB2 wrote:A+ for Miami
B+ for Clippers
D- for Jazz


Jazz save over 10 Million.
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#32 » by _NoMas » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:40 pm

Bucks4005 wrote:I mean, for the Clippers, in this sense, they are just getting a PF that fills the same role as Powell did at SF, only this allows for more size u. The lineup, keep,Kawhi as more of a SF and keep his body from banging down low, and adding more size to the starting lineup, which with some of the teams in the West running the double big lineup now they kinda need otherwise they would and been beaten down low by teams if Kawhi cant hold up at PF


Exactly this. I also think there is sense in selling high on Powell, the nuggets series exposed some of his flaws. Collins is a good move to get more size and athleticism, and ease the rebounding/ guarding 4s burden on Kawhi’s body
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#33 » by Chuck Everett » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:40 pm

Full disclosure, I am not a John Collins fan whatsoever, however adding him and Brook Lopez to an all-NBA/all-defensive caliber Zubac is such a win I don't even know what else to say about it.

Losing Norm Powell is a small price to pay for improving the frontcourt to this degree. Now Kawhi and Derrick Jones can just exclusively play on the wing and Batum can play the bench stretch 4.

Ainge held onto these vets so long, he got nothing for them.
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#34 » by Wingy » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:40 pm

djsunyc wrote:what is ainge doing? devaluing everyone on his roster?


Must’ve learned from 2022-2023 when he absolutely and utterly botched the tank for Wemby.
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#35 » by -Luke- » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:40 pm

Paradise wrote:
-Luke- wrote:I'm confused. Why did the Clippers send a 2nd to Utah and not Miami? Clippers give up the best player in the trade AND the pick?

Because Utah is taking on Kyle Anderson.

What I meant is why did the Clippers send the pick to Utah and not Miami to Utah? I don't have a problem with a 2nd going to Utah, I just don't understand why the Clippers send it.
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#36 » by Knightro » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:41 pm

It's a great trade for Miami.

Love and Anderson were certainly non-essential pieces for them and Powell can really play. So from their perspective, huge win.

I don't know how I feel about it for LAC. I am probably down too hard on Collins, but I don't love it.
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#37 » by Sofia » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:43 pm

I’m guessing Clippers are leading the Bradley Beal sweepstakes then…

Also, instead of paying Norm big money for multiple years, they still maintain up to projected $150m in cap space in 2 years
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#38 » by JustBuzzin » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:43 pm

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Could clear the way for Beal to land with the Clippers....Collins a nice add for LA.
Yeah I agree with this. Clippers could end up being the winners here getting Beal and Collins for Powell would be a clear win for them.
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#39 » by tamaraw08 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:45 pm

zshawn10 wrote:Really like this for miami but they have to pay him next year


imagine if Powell wants a huge 5 year contract, Pat says no and Norm does a Jimmy Butler, late for practices and faking injuries. :banghead:
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Re: [Shams] Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers 

Post#40 » by Knightro » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:46 pm

If the Clippers already think they have a deal worked out with Beal, this makes a ton more sense from their perspective.

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