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Re: Jaime Jaquez 6MOTY Most improved 

Post#21 » by DBurks2818 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:20 pm

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littlerock2277 wrote:Yeah he definitely has a shot, but I assume his minutes and touches will go down once herro and bam come back. Gonna be hard to continue to average those stats being behind the shot order of herro, Powell, bam and wiggins.

I imagine it's Dru Smith, Mitchell, and Larsson who are going to lose minutes.

Herro (32) / Mitchell (16)
Powell (32) / Fontecchio (16)
Wiggins (32) / Jacquez (28)
Bam (32) / Jovic (22)
Ware (30)

As far as touches, if we can maintain pace, I don't see him losing too much. My main concern is how will Herro and Powell coexist?


You think Larsson goes back to zero minutes?
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Post#22 » by Effigy » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:44 pm

Jerami Grant is a strong contender for 6MOTY too.
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Post#23 » by cupcakesnake » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:47 pm

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cupcakesnake wrote:Is Jaime Jaquez the Heat's best player this season so far?

Like, I know it's Bam because defense exists too, but after that, who's bringing more to the Heat than Jaime Jaquez? Their offense is based on a lot of one-on-one driving (no screen) and passing to create advantage, and he's their best driver. Norm and Wiggs are shooting the lights out and have higher ppg's, but watching the Heat... none of this works without effective drivers and that's Jaime this year. He's beasting on the interior, getting 36% of his shots at the rim and finishing those at 83%(!) He's been a monster from floater range too, and is diming guys up off those drives.

Not only does he get downhill like no one on this roster, but he can post up, keep his dribble, and find cutters. He's a real hub when he's on the floor. 5.2 assists to only 1.8 turnovers is impressive.

This Miami machine doesn't work without someone being able to get into the paint and draw help, and surprisingly, Jaime's been the one doing that.


Norman Powell is having a hell of a season. 24ppg on 46 FG% 46 3pt% (6 attempts/game) and he's getting to the line 8 times per game. IMO, he's far and away Miami's best offensive player.

Jaquez has a different game, but he is giving off a lot of Josh Giddey vibes with his all-around play. I don't think anyone expected Jaquez to play this well (I thought he'd lose minutes to Fontecchio and Larsson), but I hope he keeps this up all season.


Lots of guys deserve shoutouts on the Heat, and it's not obvious who's the best player (again, I just think it's Bam overall). Norm is a proven explosive scorer, weirdly having his best seasons in his 30s like he's Steve Nash or something. I think with Norm, he's still inherently a finisher. He's primarily a movement shooter and close out driver, so this offense is built for him perfectly to score in bunches. He can even iso and drive it himself in this spaced offense, if he gets the matchup.

Jaquez is bigger, stronger, more physical, and a much better passer. This offense needs someone to touch the paint, otherwise it's just guys rotating around and cutting against set defense. I think he's more integral to what the Heat are doing, though Norm is absolutely crushing it in his role.

Norm is currently the best scorer on the team, but I feel Jaquez is more of the hub.

The Heat are doing a lot better with Jaquez on the floor than with Norm, though the lineup with both is crushing teams. I think neither are amazing defender, but Jaquez is still better with his motor and disruption.
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Re: Jaime Jaquez 6MOTY Most improved 

Post#24 » by BBallFreak » Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:42 pm

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littlerock2277 wrote:Yeah he definitely has a shot, but I assume his minutes and touches will go down once herro and bam come back. Gonna be hard to continue to average those stats being behind the shot order of herro, Powell, bam and wiggins.

I imagine it's Dru Smith, Mitchell, and Larsson who are going to lose minutes.

Herro (32) / Mitchell (16)
Powell (32) / Fontecchio (16)
Wiggins (32) / Jacquez (28)
Bam (32) / Jovic (22)
Ware (30)

As far as touches, if we can maintain pace, I don't see him losing too much. My main concern is how will Herro and Powell coexist?


You think Larsson goes back to zero minutes?

Yes, I do. Who does he replace in the rotation; Fontecchio?
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Re: Jaime Jaquez 6MOTY Most improved 

Post#25 » by DBurks2818 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 8:29 pm

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DBurks2818 wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:I imagine it's Dru Smith, Mitchell, and Larsson who are going to lose minutes.

Herro (32) / Mitchell (16)
Powell (32) / Fontecchio (16)
Wiggins (32) / Jacquez (28)
Bam (32) / Jovic (22)
Ware (30)

As far as touches, if we can maintain pace, I don't see him losing too much. My main concern is how will Herro and Powell coexist?


You think Larsson goes back to zero minutes?

Yes, I do. Who does he replace in the rotation; Fontecchio?


:sigh: It's a tough question to answer for sure. And it wouldn't be the first time someone on the team went from benchwarming to starting to benchwarming again.
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Post#26 » by arusinov » Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:00 pm

While getting awards is somewhat dependent on team's success (in this case - whether Portland will learn to win close games like those in Maimi and Orlando last week) but I will remind:
Concerning MIP - Deni Avdija averages 25.5 ppg (over 8.5 ppg more than previous season), and speaking about 6MOTY - Jerami Grant scores 19.7 ppg on 65.5 ts% of the bench
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Re: Jaime Jaquez 6MOTY Most improved 

Post#27 » by HotelVitale » Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:08 pm

BBallFreak wrote:Jacquez has been a revelation this year and definitely one of the players who makes this whole system work. I think most Heat fans would admit that they weren't expecting this, if anything at all from him.

The best part of all this is how much we've been able to get from our other players. No Herro this year, no Bam the last three, we're still 7 and 4.

Very pleasantly surprised.


Do you think he'll keep up that big jump in shooting and efficiency in addition to the volume though? I'd bet pretty heavily on that coming down just based on history, but it could be sustainable if he's creating significantly better shots for himself.
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Post#28 » by BBallFreak » Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:14 pm

HotelVitale wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Jacquez has been a revelation this year and definitely one of the players who makes this whole system work. I think most Heat fans would admit that they weren't expecting this, if anything at all from him.

The best part of all this is how much we've been able to get from our other players. No Herro this year, no Bam the last three, we're still 7 and 4.

Very pleasantly surprised.


Do you think he'll keep up that big jump in shooting and efficiency in addition to the volume though? I'd bet pretty heavily on that coming down just based on history, but it could be sustainable if he's creating significantly better shots for himself.

He is, but I agree with you; he'll level off some. It just depends on how much he levels off.
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Post#29 » by TwitterFingers » Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:23 pm

It’s going to be interesting, but I think Deni should win it.
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Post#30 » by GeorgeSears » Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:28 pm

There needs to be a minutes requirement for 6MOTY award. You should be ineligible if you play over 30 mpg. Jaime is currently below that.

The reason is you don't just want someone to "game" the award, like they did with Tyler Herro four years ago where he played like 33 mpg (which are starter minutes) but because he started off the bench he qualified for 6MOTY.
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Post#31 » by Dez » Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:47 pm

Godymas wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:I imagine Ryan Rollins is running away with MIP.


it’s Deni’s award to lose this year

Funny way of saying Josh Giddey.
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Re: Jaime Jaquez 6MOTY Most improved 

Post#32 » by iamoti » Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:41 am

BBallFreak wrote:
DBurks2818 wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:I imagine it's Dru Smith, Mitchell, and Larsson who are going to lose minutes.

Herro (32) / Mitchell (16)
Powell (32) / Fontecchio (16)
Wiggins (32) / Jacquez (28)
Bam (32) / Jovic (22)
Ware (30)

As far as touches, if we can maintain pace, I don't see him losing too much. My main concern is how will Herro and Powell coexist?


You think Larsson goes back to zero minutes?

Yes, I do. Who does he replace in the rotation; Fontecchio?
Larsson over Simone/Dru easily. Larsson has the potential to be a very high level role player in this league for years.

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Post#33 » by Slimjimzv » Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:45 am

Ya'll better pay attention to Ajay Mitchell....
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Post#34 » by doogie_hauser » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:30 am

PlatinumState wrote:6th man definitely. But we cant say anything now really.....players do cool off and some skyrocket as the season goes on. Avdija, Keyonte George, Sarr, NAW, Rollins, Hachimura, Grayson Allen are all good MIP candidates


Hachimura or Grayson Allen no chance

Really like the Alex Sarr call though
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Post#35 » by basketballRob » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:56 am

Suggs for MIP. In just 21 mpg, he averages 12.1 ppg and 1.9 spg. Splits are 58/46/89. 711 efg and 747 ts.

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Post#36 » by thinktank » Today 2:13 pm

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thinktank wrote:For MIP:

Jaden McDaniels

54% 3FG%
65% TS%
18.4 PPG
.9 steals
1.4 blocks
4.6 reb
2.2 assists

If you were ever a Scottie Pippen fan this is the player for you.


In terms of offensive profile, he's a little bit the opposite of Pippen. Pippen was all about overwhelming athleticism and solid playmaking, while struggling a bit as a guy who create his own shot. Jaden doesn't have much playmaking, but he's become a wizard at creating his own high-quality shot. Jaden has been driving into the paint at will, and then uses a combination of his super high release and really efficient touch to knock down short jumpers if the defense can keep him away from the rim. He's shooting 54% in that floater/short jumper range and taking a third of his shots from there.

I get that he's like Pippen in that he's a versatile giant athletic wing, though.


McDaniels and Pippen have much in common, especially size, defense, finishing, and shooting. Bulls / Wolves are totally different teams and eras, and that’s the main driver for differences, besides them being different human beings, of course. McDaniels in triangle next to MJ may have averaged 5 assists. And Pippen scored 18-20 ppg on 25% usage (higher than McDaniels), so he DID NOT struggle to create his own shot. Maybe when he was old and with the Portland nobodies.
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Post#37 » by JujitsuFlip » Today 3:00 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
littlerock2277 wrote:Yeah he definitely has a shot, but I assume his minutes and touches will go down once herro and bam come back. Gonna be hard to continue to average those stats being behind the shot order of herro, Powell, bam and wiggins.

I imagine it's Dru Smith, Mitchell, and Larsson who are going to lose minutes.

Herro (32) / Mitchell (16)
Powell (32) / Fontecchio (16)
Wiggins (32) / Jacquez (28)
Bam (32) / Jovic (22)
Ware (30)

As far as touches, if we can maintain pace, I don't see him losing too much. My main concern is how will Herro and Powell coexist?
Are they really using Fontecchio at SG? There's no way. He's been a SF/PF his entire career.
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Post#38 » by JujitsuFlip » Today 3:07 pm

basketballRob wrote:Suggs for MIP. In just 21 mpg, he averages 12.1 ppg and 1.9 spg. Splits are 58/46/89. 711 efg and 747 ts.

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Green font? His PPG went down from last season, no media members are voting for that. Rebounds identical to last season. Has an awful assist to turnover ratio.

No chance, not even in the conversation.
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Post#39 » by JayMKE » Today 3:27 pm

Rollins is the most improved, he went from being waived and signed to two way contract, having a shoulder injury the Bucks 2nd best player and best defender. Legit 2 way player.
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Post#40 » by BBallFreak » Today 3:44 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:
littlerock2277 wrote:Yeah he definitely has a shot, but I assume his minutes and touches will go down once herro and bam come back. Gonna be hard to continue to average those stats being behind the shot order of herro, Powell, bam and wiggins.

I imagine it's Dru Smith, Mitchell, and Larsson who are going to lose minutes.

Herro (32) / Mitchell (16)
Powell (32) / Fontecchio (16)
Wiggins (32) / Jacquez (28)
Bam (32) / Jovic (22)
Ware (30)

As far as touches, if we can maintain pace, I don't see him losing too much. My main concern is how will Herro and Powell coexist?
Are they really using Fontecchio at SG? There's no way. He's been a SF/PF his entire career.

No, it's positionless. Players slide to different spots based on who's in around them

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