Cade Cunningham breaks Kobe's record of most missed FG's in a game (14/45, 31 missed shots)

[SkyBill40]

Damn. That's a LOT of chucking.

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[bisme37]

Alternate headline from same game/player:

Cade Cunningham is the first player in NBA history to total 45+ pts, 10+ reb, 10+ ast and 5+ stl in a game since steals were first tracked in 1973-74, and the 4th player ever to tally 300+ pts and 100+ ast in the first 10 games of a season

[SA37]

[JujitsuFlip]

31 misses is diabolical lol straight chucking.

[MoneyTalks41890]

You miss 100 percent of the shots you don’t take. Shooters shoot.

[f4p]

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Most missed shots in a game is probably like most turnovers all time or most interceptions all time for QBs. They sound bad but are mostly just lists of hall of famers.

[PushDaRock]

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Hall of Fame Lock confirmed

Most missed shots in a game is probably like most turnovers all time or most interceptions all time for QBs. They sound bad but are mostly just lists of hall of famers.

Curry will likely hold the record for most missed threes in NBA history

[tsherkin]

Most missed shots in a game is probably like most turnovers all time or most interceptions all time for QBs. They sound bad but are mostly just lists of hall of famers.

It's mostly about opportunity to touch the ball, really. You can't miss that many shots if you don't take that many shots. And at no prior time in his career has anyone really considered Cade a chucker, right? He's a most willing and excellent playmaker. But with 6 guys missing on an already offense-starved team, stuff happens.

[The4thHorseman]

Props to Kobe for holding that record for 23 years.

There have only been 8 games of 45+ FGA from a single player in the 3pt era. Kobe's the only one to have done it more than once. So Cade joins Kobe, Jordan, Webber, and Jalen Brunson.

JB did it last year, but it had been since 2016 when it last happened, in Kobe's final game (which was actually 50 FGA). And even for him, that was a decade after he'd done it in 06 (he did it twice that year), and 4 years after he'd done it the first time in 02.

It's a bit of an arbitrary barrier, of course: Jordan took 43 FGA twice in his 87 season, but still. And it's a little easier with 3pt volume. Jordan and Webber COMBINED for 6 3PA. In Kobe's first, he went 0/8 from 3, then 7/13 during the 81-point game, then 4/11 in a 58-point game, and then 6/21 in his last game.

Wild stuff. xD

Here's a list of Lakers with most FGA in a game.

Att Player Opponent Year

55 Elgin Baylor Philadelphia 1961

48 Elgin Baylor New York 1960

47 Elgin Baylor Boston 1959

47 Kobe Bryant Boston 2002

45 George Mikan Rochester 1952

45 Elgin Baylor Detroit 1961

Phil's comments after the 2002 game

“There’s a limitation to what you can do,” Laker Coach Phil Jackson said after the rest of the Lakers made 20 of 48 shots. “I was telling the team that he carried us back into the ballgame. You’ve got to stop going to the well all the time. The well will run dry eventually. Somebody has to start contributing.”

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-nov-08-sp-lakers8-story.html

[whitehops]

Alternate headline from same game/player:

Cade Cunningham is the first player in NBA history to total 45+ pts, 10+ reb, 10+ ast and 5+ stl in a game since steals were first tracked in 1973-74, and the 4th player ever to tally 300+ pts and 100+ ast in the first 10 games of a season

it was a game where you need context. the pistons at full strength don't have guys that can create their own shots reliably so cade has to create pretty much everything. they were missing more than half their rotation players and played jenkins (a two-way player) 34 minutes just so someone else could handle the ball. they were also on the second night of a back to back and 3rd game in 4 nights so he was playing with dead legs.

his approach was totally different as he was looking for his shot from the jump when he normally looks to get his teammates going early. he got to his spots and got good looks, he just missed the shots. he still ran the offense, he still got others involved when he could and still hustled on defense (5 steals, 2 blocks). he got injured on a hard fall with 4 minutes left in the 4th Q, came back from the locker room and led them down the stretch when they were down 10 points. i've said it a few times already in the pistons game threads but if you can't win pretty, you may as well win gritty.

when the pistons were losing people would look at cade's efficiency and think he was holding them back. i wonder how long that perspective will change now they have the second best record in the league. the guy just does what he has to for the team to succeed.

[ValvPiti]

If you watched the game, you'd say Cade at least should have 60. He missed an incredible amount of EASY shots by his standards, many of them basically gimmies/straight up easy layups. Thats unlike Cade, but it was good shots, they were just in and out the whole night. Never seen anything like it to that extend.

Even with the bad percentages, there was no doubt who the best player on the floor was. Special player.

lol I've heard the "best player on the floor" argument before I'll say this. After seeing Cade play in the playoffs, I'm not too surprised at his performance today.

Maybe he'll improve in the future, but this is who he is right now.

Thats such a bad take. Watch the game, please.

[tsherkin]

Here's a list of Lakers with most FGA in a game.

A lot of that is before the 3pt era, which I expressly didn't include. Different pace, different average MPG, different strategies in the game, etc, etc. Too distant to really be worth direct comparison.

Phil's comments after the 2002 game

“There’s a limitation to what you can do,” Laker Coach Phil Jackson said after the rest of the Lakers made 20 of 48 shots. “I was telling the team that he carried us back into the ballgame. You’ve got to stop going to the well all the time. The well will run dry eventually. Somebody has to start contributing.”

Yeah, and I mean, that's why people are talking about Detroit's roster context. 6 guys missing, including a pair of starters, and not an awesome offensive squad to begin with. Cade was just doing what he could to try and get them the W, no doubt. Efficiency is nice, but it is best expressed on average. In a win, when only so much other contribution was possible, sometimes you have to let it go.

[chilluminati]

If you watched the game, you'd say Cade at least should have 60. He missed an incredible amount of EASY shots by his standards, many of them basically gimmies/straight up easy layups. Thats unlike Cade, but it was good shots, they were just in and out the whole night. Never seen anything like it to that extend.

Even with the bad percentages, there was no doubt who the best player on the floor was. Special player.

lol I've heard the "best player on the floor" argument before I'll say this. After seeing Cade play in the playoffs, I'm not too surprised at his performance today.

Maybe he'll improve in the future, but this is who he is right now.

Thats such a bad take. Watch the game, please.

Typical Knicks fan take after last season. Apologies to the Knicks fans who understand basketball.

[The4thHorseman]

Here's a list of Lakers with most FGA in a game.

A lot of that is before the 3pt era, which I expressly didn't include. Different pace, different average MPG, different strategies in the game, etc, etc. Too distant to really be worth direct comparison.

Phil's comments after the 2002 game

“There’s a limitation to what you can do,” Laker Coach Phil Jackson said after the rest of the Lakers made 20 of 48 shots. “I was telling the team that he carried us back into the ballgame. You’ve got to stop going to the well all the time. The well will run dry eventually. Somebody has to start contributing.”

Yeah, and I mean, that's why people are talking about Detroit's roster context. 6 guys missing, including a pair of starters, and not an awesome offensive squad to begin with. Cade was just doing what he could to try and get them the W, no doubt. Efficiency is nice, but it is best expressed on average. In a win, when only so much other contribution was possible, sometimes you have to let it go.

I wasn't going against anything you said, it was more of a FYI thing to pass along.

[cupcakesnake]

who else was going to take those shots?

I think against a weak defense like Washington's, Detroit should have been able to generate more team offense. Robinson is a good movement shooter, Duren is an elite role man. Ron Holland averages 8 FGA this year and only took 4 shots last night.

The Pistons let their offense devolve into playing iso off the dribble, and that's a big part of why they were in a rock fight, relying immensely on offensive rebounding, against the 28th ranked defense in the NBA.

Cade chose to call his own number a LOT, and it was pretty stinky to watch.

[cupcakesnake]

And they did! 28 offensive rebounds is exactly why Detroit won this game.

[Statlanta]

you got to have unbelievable organizational freedom to have coach and gm be ok with a guy taking 40 shots.

Not even Harden/Westbrook, the 2010s equivalent of usage and possession domination, took that many shots.

[JackTalkThai]

Cade ‘Record Breaker’ Cunningham does it again.

If Cade would’ve stayed within himself last night and played an “efficient” game, Detroit would have lost that game by double digits. Yes, even against the lowly Wizards.

3rd game in 4 nights.
Ausar out.
Tobias out.
Ivey out.
Sasser out.
Lavert out.
Stewart out.

Context is king, a win is a win, not all wins are pretty but they all count the same in the standings.

[SlimShady83]

Since many call Kobe a Chucker, we can now do the same for Cade.

[tsherkin]

I wasn't going against anything you said, it was more of a FYI thing to pass along.

Fair enough!

I think against a weak defense like Washington's, Detroit should have been able to generate more team offense. Robinson is a good movement shooter, Duren is an elite role man. Ron Holland averages 8 FGA this year and only took 4 shots last night.

The Pistons let their offense devolve into playing iso off the dribble, and that's a big part of why they were in a rock fight, relying immensely on offensive rebounding, against the 28th ranked defense in the NBA.

Cade chose to call his own number a LOT, and it was pretty stinky to watch.

Honestly, I think Detroit is sufficiently limited in terms of on-ball creation with so many guys missing that it was the right choice. You can only get so many spot-up jumpers and roll actions.

Ron Holland averages 8 FGA and took 4, sure, but Daniss Jenkins averages 5 and took 17.

Meantime, Duren took 10 (he averages 10.8), Green 11 (averages 5.5), Robinson 11 (averages 8.5). Lots of guys were above their averages. Chaz Lanier took 7 shots and he's averaged 8.7 mpg so far this season.

Cade wasn't cannibalizing other guys that much, there's just a limit on how often you can create ideal shots when you're surrounded by your bench and guys who don't create for themselves.