Lakers offense since Bron's return

[bonita_the_frog]

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No team with Doncic and Reaves in the backcourt will ever win a championship.
That's TWO defensive liabilities in the backcourt, and even worse than defensive liabilities, they are athletic liabilities.
No matter who you add to the frontcourt, you can't save that team in a 7 game series against the best athletes in the world, and Ayton makes them even worse defensively as he shifts even more responsibility to the backcourt to take care of their own... and then there is LeBron the part-time defender.

[JHFVF07]

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No team with Doncic and Reaves in the backcourt will ever win a championship.
That's TWO defensive liabilities in the backcourt, and even worse than defensive liabilities, they are athletic liabilities.
No matter who you add to the frontcourt, you can't save that team in a 7 game series against the best athletes in the world, and Ayton makes them even worse defensively as he shifts even more responsibility to the backcourt to take care of their own... and then there is LeBron the part-time defender.

And according to you, Flagg will have better numbers than peak Lebron with better defense and rebounding, right?
I hope you' re just a troll. Im betting you were one of these poeple telling us before the season that Mavs would be better without Luka, cause defense matters.

[bonita_the_frog]

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No team with Doncic and Reaves in the backcourt will ever win a championship.
That's TWO defensive liabilities in the backcourt, and even worse than defensive liabilities, they are athletic liabilities.
No matter who you add to the frontcourt, you can't save that team in a 7 game series against the best athletes in the world, and Ayton makes them even worse defensively as he shifts even more responsibility to the backcourt to take care of their own... and then there is LeBron the part-time defender.

And according to you, Flagg will have better numbers than peak Lebron with better defense and rebounding, right?
I hope you' re just a troll. Im betting you were one of these poeple telling us before the season that Mavs would be better without Luka, cause defense matters.

Well its a lot easier to average 25ppg-30ppg in this era, than it was in LeBron's prime era, so that's not saying much.
And obviously Flagg is already rebounding well enough to project he'll average more rebounds than LeBron.
So that only leaves assists, and even with this Mavs team being so disjointed, Flagg already had an 11 assist game so you see his potential...
I'm just stating the obvious.

[Archx]

No team with Doncic and Reaves in the backcourt will ever win a championship.
That's TWO defensive liabilities in the backcourt, and even worse than defensive liabilities, they are athletic liabilities.
No matter who you add to the frontcourt, you can't save that team in a 7 game series against the best athletes in the world, and Ayton makes them even worse defensively as he shifts even more responsibility to the backcourt to take care of their own... and then there is LeBron the part-time defender.

You're switching arguments again. Where did i claim Lakers will win a championship? I said, Kyrie/Luka was not a problem on defense in playoffs and Reaves is a better defender than 30+ year old Kyrie. And you absolutely also need great offense to compete in playoffs, also proven by IND who almost won vs OKC and they were far from a great defensive team.

Ayton makes them worse on defense? What the hell are you watching?

[bonita_the_frog]

No team with Doncic and Reaves in the backcourt will ever win a championship.
That's TWO defensive liabilities in the backcourt, and even worse than defensive liabilities, they are athletic liabilities.
No matter who you add to the frontcourt, you can't save that team in a 7 game series against the best athletes in the world, and Ayton makes them even worse defensively as he shifts even more responsibility to the backcourt to take care of their own... and then there is LeBron the part-time defender.

You're switching arguments again. Where did i claim Lakers will win a championship? I said, Kyrie/Luka was not a problem on defense in playoffs and Reaves is a better defender than 30+ year old Kyrie. And you absolutely also need great offense to compete in playoffs, also proven by IND who almost won vs OKC and they were far from a great defensive team.

Ayton makes them worse on defense? What the hell are you watching?

You didn't have to claim they'd win a championship, I'm just saying they won't, because I assume that's the goal...
That's how problematic their backcourt is.

You can't win a championship with TWO defensive and athletic liabilities in the starting backcourt.
And Kyrie is far more athletic than Reaves will ever be, and Kyrie is actually capable of playing defense in the playoffs as we've seen before.

You need great offense in the playoffs, but even the greatest offensive teams go completely cold for long stretches (see Houston vs. Golden State, Game 7), and that is why you need great defense even more to win those dogfights.

Ayton has always been known for soft defense, that's literally his biggest weakness.

[mpoo_sin]

Mavs entered the game as 2nd best defense in the.league BTW

Defense doesn’t win championships

Are you not beginning to see the vision?!

[Archx]

No team with Doncic and Reaves in the backcourt will ever win a championship.
That's TWO defensive liabilities in the backcourt, and even worse than defensive liabilities, they are athletic liabilities.
No matter who you add to the frontcourt, you can't save that team in a 7 game series against the best athletes in the world, and Ayton makes them even worse defensively as he shifts even more responsibility to the backcourt to take care of their own... and then there is LeBron the part-time defender.

You're switching arguments again. Where did i claim Lakers will win a championship? I said, Kyrie/Luka was not a problem on defense in playoffs and Reaves is a better defender than 30+ year old Kyrie. And you absolutely also need great offense to compete in playoffs, also proven by IND who almost won vs OKC and they were far from a great defensive team.

Ayton makes them worse on defense? What the hell are you watching?

You didn't have to claim they'd win a championship, I'm just saying they won't, because I assume that's the goal...
That's how problematic their backcourt is.

You can't win a championship with TWO defensive and athletic liabilities in the starting backcourt.
And Kyrie is far more athletic than Reaves will ever be, and Kyrie is actually capable of playing defense in the playoffs as we've seen before.

You need great offense in the playoffs, but even the greatest offensive teams go completely cold for long stretches (see Houston vs. Golden State, Game 7), and that is why you need great defense even more to win those dogfights.

Ayton has always been known for soft defense, that's literally his biggest weakness.

All you're saying are hypotheticals and assumptions, can't even have a reasonable argument. Let's wait until playoffs and then we'll have a better picture.
But what is clear right now is Lakers need a deeper bench and not a better backcourt. Those two are the highest scoring backcourt in the NBA, Lakers will be fine in that regard but they certainly need more depth.

[bonita_the_frog]

All you're saying are hypotheticals and assumptions, can't even have a reasonable argument. Let's wait until playoffs and then we'll have a better picture.
But what is clear right now is Lakers need a deeper bench and not a better backcourt. Those two are the highest scoring backcourt in the NBA, Lakers will be fine in that regard but they certainly need more depth.

Well I don't know who will win the championship, but i definitely know who WON'T win the championship.
You can't win a championship with TWO non-athletic defensive liabilities in your backcourt playing MAJOR minutes in the playoffs.
No amount of offense can compensate for that in a 7 game series vs. the elites, whereas in the regular season its no problem...

[Ben-N1ce]

So 2 15 point scorers a 30 point scorer and a 25 point scorer in the starting lineup and LeBron ain't enough to chip lol

[Archx]

You can't win a championship with TWO non-athletic defensive liabilities in your backcourt playing MAJOR minutes in the playoffs.
No amount of offense can compensate for that in a 7 game series vs. the elites, whereas in the regular season its no problem...

Agreed, looking back, Murray/KCP one of the best defensive backcourts in the history. Curry/Klay, absolute killer defensive lineups, surprised neither won DPOY before. Also Jokic, better on defense than Mutombo. Pacers were a game away with Nesmith/Hali, also a juggernaut defensive backcourt. Or going even more back, Kyrie/Jr.Smith, another incredible defensive duo.

I think you're on to something, i just can't figure out what that is.

[Infinite Llamas]

All you're saying are hypotheticals and assumptions, can't even have a reasonable argument. Let's wait until playoffs and then we'll have a better picture.
But what is clear right now is Lakers need a deeper bench and not a better backcourt. Those two are the highest scoring backcourt in the NBA, Lakers will be fine in that regard but they certainly need more depth.

Well I don't know who will win the championship, but i definitely know who WON'T win the championship.
You can't win a championship with TWO non-athletic defensive liabilities in your backcourt playing MAJOR minutes in the playoffs.
No amount of offense can compensate for that in a 7 game series vs. the elites, whereas in the regular season its no problem...

Golden State won a championship and Curry/Poole spent lots of time together so it is possible. It comes down to if Luka/Reaves will get the same whistle I feel.

[TravisScott55]

It's their defense that is concerning, never their offense

[CobraCommander]

Mavs entered the game as 2nd best defense in the.league BTW

Defense doesn’t win championships

Are you not beginning to see the vision?!

While interviewing Nico for a job to manage a airport McDonald’s.:.. yeah I have vision that he would trade the guy that makes the best fries for a dude that always calls in sick… yeah I ain’t gonna hire this dude cause I got a vision of how he does crap

[Rust_Cohle]

Lakers have had a very very soft schedule but reaves has been amazing

[Tha Cynic]

They should trade LeBron for Anthony Davis. That would be a legit championship roster. Dallas can say they got LeBron, Christie and a first round pick for Luka.

Lakers can probably get Thompson or Marshall back too in the trade

This season:

Ayton
Davis
Thompson
Reaves
Doncic


Next season

Lively
Flagg
James
Christie
Kyrie

I would do it in NBA 2k and set no injuries in settings

[bonita_the_frog]

All you're saying are hypotheticals and assumptions, can't even have a reasonable argument. Let's wait until playoffs and then we'll have a better picture.
But what is clear right now is Lakers need a deeper bench and not a better backcourt. Those two are the highest scoring backcourt in the NBA, Lakers will be fine in that regard but they certainly need more depth.

Well I don't know who will win the championship, but i definitely know who WON'T win the championship.
You can't win a championship with TWO non-athletic defensive liabilities in your backcourt playing MAJOR minutes in the playoffs.
No amount of offense can compensate for that in a 7 game series vs. the elites, whereas in the regular season its no problem...

Golden State won a championship and Curry/Poole spent lots of time together so it is possible. It comes down to if Luka/Reaves will get the same whistle I feel.

True, but that's why i say "non-athletic defensive liabilities", because at least Curry is athletic and has the footspeed to stay with his man, which i can't say about Doncic/Reaves. Kyrie is another, he's athletic enough to stay in front of an athletic ball-handler.

[JellosJigglin]

Lebron really hasn't looked good. Having him back just helps with the Lakers' depth. While they're a deeper team than last season, I think it's still an area of concern. They are close, but it feels like they're an Alex Caruso away from being true contenders. Freaking cheap ass Buss family. Walter would've re-signed him if he were the owner at the time.

Regarding Ayton, he's been even better than expected and I was bullish on that signing. He held his own last night against Dallas's bigs. Didn't do anything highlight worthy but just did a good job staying in front of him. I don't get the criticism. He's been a godsend.

[Optms]

Only worried about OKC, everyone else can get it.

[JellosJigglin]

Lakers have had a very very soft schedule but reaves has been amazing

Before this homestand they had played the most road games in the league. It's just beginning to balance out now.

[VanWest82]

Only worried about OKC, everyone else can get it.

I didn't realize Lakers had figured out an answer for Murray and Jokic. Wow good for you guys!