Has Evan Mobley lived up to the hype?

[Chuck Everett]

I honestly believe it's because of who he plays with. Garland and Mitchell don't ever get the guy easy buckets (which every great big needs in their shot diet). They simply hunt their own shots most of the time. I wish he could get away from them.

[RookieStar]

Needs to learn to foul bait.
Grab a nearby defender then pretend to shoot and collapse to the ground. If you can’t grab one just throw your body into them.
Could average 4-5 more points per game if he did that.

Yeah but he can only do that to someone as tall or taller than him like sga harden brunson...

He needs to study Embiids style. Just fall everytime
The refs will surely call one right?

[1993Playoffs]

I’d say yes. He’s great. He can get even better and more aggressive imo.

[G R E Y]

Yes. He’s the modern Pau Gasol.

Very skilled, 2-way player, team player, doesn’t quite have the dog in him to be a true #1.

It's amazing how many players rise or plateau or fall on this single trait.

[The Servant]

About as good as people thought he would be. Not every top 3 pick becomes a 30/10/10 superstar

Year 1 he was being called the next KG. That has fallen off for sure but great player.

[HMFFL]

Cavs invested a lot of money in Mobley but he doesn't have the mindset. Donovan Mitchell is being wasted there. When he won DPOY his bonus was $30 million.

[3ddman23]

Kinda like chet, really good basketball players but they aren't #1 option type of guys( they don't have the offense packages). They play more of a role. But if you give them the keys to an organization as the main guy I don't believe there teams would be championship caliber.

[Duke4life831]

Put it this way, prior to the draft if you said by the end of year 4 Mobley would have DPOY, 2 1st team all Defense and a 2nd team All NBA. And to be clear, it would most likely have been 3 1st team all defense if he played 15 more games his 3rd season. And on top of all of that, he would finish 10th in MVP voting.

I think most people would take that and run if their team had the 3rd pick in the draft. And even from just Mobley's specific hype pre draft. If you gave me all of those individual defensive awards, to go with him shooting 37% from 3 and in this year averaging 4 assists a game.

Ya I dont see how that isnt living up to the hype. Its not like Mobley was viewed as like a Wemby. There is a reason he went 3rd overall and not 1st. He was basically talked up as a truly elite level defender, with pick and pop potential and a very underrated passer for a young big guy.

I feel like the pre draft hype on Mobley was one of the more accurate hype levels for a player.

[bkkrh]

He was a 3rd overall pick that in just 4 seasons won DPOY, made 2 All Defense 1st teams and 1 All Star team and you are asking if he is living up to the hype^^.

First off, his numbers definitely have improved. He scores more, gets more assists and shoots way better from 3. He went from .250 & .216 in his first 2 seasons to pretty constant 37%. That his numbers aren´t getting higher is related to him playing on a stacked team. The Cavs have 3 other player that can average 20+ points with Mitchell, Garland and Hunter. The Cavs also have another big with Jarrett Allen that made the All Star team based on his defense. His Block and Rebound numbers are going down since Mobley is on the team. Is it because he is getting worse, or maybe because there are constantly now 2 strong post defenders on the floor?

Look up the first 4 seasons of some of the greatest PFs of the last 40 years. Mind you, almost all of them were older when they came into the league. You won´t find a lot that put up similar numbers or had that level of accomplishments after 4 seasons. His last year averages were actually pretty much on par with peak Shawn Kemp and Rasheed Wallace.

[canada_dry]

No.

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[GrandTheftRondo]

I mean offensively probably not.

There were some lofty predictions for him on that end.

Defensively yes.

Offensively he’s just not a natural and aggressive enough scorer to be a true star of the league

[LarsV8]

I don't recall his draft hype being all that spectacular.

Once he started playing, there was quite a bit of undue hype, which has artificially elevated his standing.

I don't think he is as good as his reputation.

[Tor_Raps]

Nope... I was expecting a guy closer to KG/Duncan than I was closer to Gobert. Still a really good player but just not who I was expecting yet. Sadly I think hes overrated because people think hes closer to KG/Duncan when hes clearly not.

[doogie_hauser]

Cavs invested a lot of money in Mobley but he doesn't have the mindset. Donovan Mitchell is being wasted there. When he won DPOY his bonus was $30 million.

I am not convinced Donovan Mitchell has shown he is capable of being a true number 1 player that can lead his team to a.chip.

[doogie_hauser]

Kinda like chet, really good basketball players but they aren't #1 option type of guys( they don't have the offense packages). They play more of a role. But if you give them the keys to an organization as the main guy I don't believe there teams would be championship caliber.

Certainly the likes of Alpie Sengun and Jalen Duren have gone past him as legit centre pieces.

I think Kel'El Ware is soon going to leap frog him too.

Mitchell Robinson arguably is more important to thr Knicks than Mobley is to The Cavs.

[JujitsuFlip]

Kinda like chet, really good basketball players but they aren't #1 option type of guys( they don't have the offense packages). They play more of a role. But if you give them the keys to an organization as the main guy I don't believe there teams would be championship caliber.

Certainly the likes of Alpie Sengun and Jalen Duren have gone past him as legit centre pieces.

I think Kel'El Ware is soon going to leap frog him too.

Mitchell Robinson arguably is more important to thr Knicks than Mobley is to The Cavs.

Man, the disrespect lol

Let's not forget Mobley is the reigning DPOY... As well as being All NBA, All Defense, and an AS last season.

You're comparing him to his peers who haven't accomplished anything yet.

[tsherkin]

I remember posters on here saying he could be Tim Duncan with a three point shot so to those people probably not. He's pretty good though

Yeah those posters were beyond stupid.

In an age where it is absurdly easy to score 20 ppg, he still can’t even manage that.

Well, he does have Darius Garland and Donovan Mitchell around him and there are only so many shots available. He's actually scoring more than Garland right now, and on barely more FGA/g. He's generally only been taking 10 or 12 shots per game, and he's a weak FT shooter. If he was an 80% FT shooter, he'd already be scoring 20 ppg, arbitrary a marker as that is to begin with, after all.

[doogie_hauser]

Kinda like chet, really good basketball players but they aren't #1 option type of guys( they don't have the offense packages). They play more of a role. But if you give them the keys to an organization as the main guy I don't believe there teams would be championship caliber.

Certainly the likes of Alpie Sengun and Jalen Duren have gone past him as legit centre pieces.

I think Kel'El Ware is soon going to leap frog him too.

Mitchell Robinson arguably is more important to thr Knicks than Mobley is to The Cavs.

Man, the disrespect lol

Let's not forget Mobley is the reigning DPOY... As well as being All NBA, All Defense, and an AS last season.

You're comparing him to his peers who haven't accomplished anything yet.

Fair criticsm, but just saying as a Celtics fan, i would prefer, younger more offensively gifted big man who can score and have a passing/assist impact on impact (Alpie and Duren esp look gifted in that dept)

Mobley does seem like a very hard worker with a great work rate and ethic (something i rate very highly) and would absolutely love him at the Celtics.

Just not sure the ultra defensive great centres like Mobley and Gobert can be lynchpins in any current day NBA Championship team tbh

But I have been wrong before. Just my opinion, not saying it should be taken as gospel etc

[Mr Peanut]

There's still 2021 re-drafts floating around where he is being drafted first, so I guess some hype is still there.

In all seriousness, I think he's exceeded the hype from before he was drafted but has probably cooled off a little bit compared to what people were projecting him to be after his first 1-2 seasons in the NBA. He's still young though and theoretically most bigs are in their prime from the 28-32 range so his best years should be yet to come.

[tribulations]

Bosh wasnt a real go to player though. 2nd, 3rd string. Toronto had a deep team with a bunch of offensive contributors

? lol what. He was the undisputed go to player for the raptors. I think you're remembering the Heat Bosh, who was the 3rd option on Miami.

I was going to say! I remember CB4 being a monster in Toronto. Definitely a #1 option.