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I'd love it if the Knicks picked him up. We need another defensive scrapper off the bench (as OG and Mitch are both injury-prone).
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og15 wrote:Saberestar wrote:I know that his role has been smaller than in the past but I don't understand why the Spurs don't retain him for depth at SF/PF. Makes no sense because they can play long series in the playoffs.
What if Harrison Barnes and/or Champagnie will be out in the playoffs with an injury?
Will they play him with his lack of shooting as a forward in the playoffs?
I doubt it very much, it's tough being a guy his size and having very little outside shooting ability.
Why not as a PF next to a shooting C like Wemby?
He isn't a shooter but there are more things in basketball and he is pretty good on defense/switching and rebounding.
IMO the Spurs are committing a mistake here.
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Saberestar wrote:I know that his role has been smaller than in the past but I don't understand why the Spurs don't retain him for depth at SF/PF. Makes no sense because they can play long series in the playoffs.
What if Harrison Barnes and/or Champagnie will be out in the playoffs with an injury?
The Spurs would never say otherwise but either he was being a distraction or they truly want him to have an opportunity to play elsewhere and secure a solid second contract
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-Spyda- wrote:Lakers should
another one-way player, he'll fit right in
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These are the type of players that I love reading these threads on. Like what do people see in him at all?
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Saberestar wrote:og15 wrote:Saberestar wrote:I know that his role has been smaller than in the past but I don't understand why the Spurs don't retain him for depth at SF/PF. Makes no sense because they can play long series in the playoffs.
What if Harrison Barnes and/or Champagnie will be out in the playoffs with an injury?
Will they play him with his lack of shooting as a forward in the playoffs?
I doubt it very much, it's tough being a guy his size and having very little outside shooting ability.
Why not as a PF next to a shooting C like Wemby?
He isn't a shooter but there are more things in basketball and he is pretty good on defense/switching and rebounding.
IMO the Spurs are committing a mistake here.
Again, because whoever is guarding Sochan can just leave to double Victor without worry. He isn't just a poor three point shooter, he is a bad scorer in general.
And I guarantee you they are not. Obviously a number of things have changed but when Sochan was getting big minutes the Spurs were terrible. He barely plays at all and they have the third best record in the NBA. Not gonna put that all on him of course but there is definitely a correlation
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Saberestar wrote:og15 wrote:Saberestar wrote:I know that his role has been smaller than in the past but I don't understand why the Spurs don't retain him for depth at SF/PF. Makes no sense because they can play long series in the playoffs.
What if Harrison Barnes and/or Champagnie will be out in the playoffs with an injury?
Will they play him with his lack of shooting as a forward in the playoffs?
I doubt it very much, it's tough being a guy his size and having very little outside shooting ability.
Why not as a PF next to a shooting C like Wemby?
He isn't a shooter but there are more things in basketball and he is pretty good on defense/switching and rebounding.
IMO the Spurs are committing a mistake here.
Carter Bryant is their future 3/4, similar size while one projects out to being a much better shooter & athlete. It's not shocking that Sochan gets released shortly after Bryant started playing better.
The mistake the Spurs made is not getting value back for him, even if it's just a second.
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Mamba Mentality wrote:-Spyda- wrote:Lakers should
another one-way player, he'll fit right in
You guys already have Jeremy Sochan at home (Jarred Vanderbilt)
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NO-KG-AI wrote:These are the type of players that I love reading these threads on. Like what do people see in him at all?
Draft position.
He isnt better than, say, Sidy Cissoko IMO.
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Bornstellar wrote:Mamba Mentality wrote:-Spyda- wrote:Lakers should
another one-way player, he'll fit right in
You guys already have Jeremy Sochan at home (Jarred Vanderbilt)
Sochan is a better all-around version of Vando. Bigger frame, more athletic, better ball handler, better finisher. The three point shooting is a moot point because they're equally as bad. I feel like he would have been a lock on the Lakers had we not given up that last roster spot to Kobe Bufkin.
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Primo + Sochan in back to back lotteries is about as bad as a team could draft. Luckily they move up most years into the top 4.
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Bit surprising considering the last surrounding news bits on his status and discussions (staying put till summer).. but also was inevitable, if not this season, in the summer.
Carter Bryant has secured Sochan's spot and type of role in the rotation, and Sochan basically wasn't going to get back, probability was low this season.
I think Sochan still has potential to get better and should, but that probably wasn't going to be with the Spurs; his progression has been outpaced by the Spurs place in the league, and also as a team.
I mean if Sochan had a better jumpshot, I think he's basically still on the Spurs. I hope he'll get a chance somewhere else in the league, to continue to develop his offensive game.
Best to Sochan. Going to keep following him and support.
Carter Bryant has secured Sochan's spot and type of role in the rotation, and Sochan basically wasn't going to get back, probability was low this season.
I think Sochan still has potential to get better and should, but that probably wasn't going to be with the Spurs; his progression has been outpaced by the Spurs place in the league, and also as a team.
I mean if Sochan had a better jumpshot, I think he's basically still on the Spurs. I hope he'll get a chance somewhere else in the league, to continue to develop his offensive game.
Best to Sochan. Going to keep following him and support.
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EmpireFalls wrote:He has bottom 5 scoring ability in the entire NBA and solely survives off being dirty and annoying
He is athletic and a decent defender but is the worst sort of player, anti-basketball in every sense, and his ilk should be avoided at all costs. Please do not talk yourself into him, he’s completely awful and there’s a reason he got cut.
that's crazy..Sochan is still just 22
many teams would take a flyer on him and it's def not a forgone conclusion he won't be able to carve himself an NBA career
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Feels like it was just yesterday we had Pop playing him at PG. Some team will pick him up, but I bet this guy will be playing overseas at some point.
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wegotthabeet wrote:Primo + Sochan in back to back lotteries is about as bad as a team could draft. Luckily they move up most years into the top 4.
The 2022 draft in general was a disaster for us. Sochan/Wesley/Branham all duds. Oof
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Saberestar wrote:og15 wrote:Will they play him with his lack of shooting as a forward in the playoffs?
I doubt it very much, it's tough being a guy his size and having very little outside shooting ability.
Why not as a PF next to a shooting C like Wemby?
He isn't a shooter but there are more things in basketball and he is pretty good on defense/switching and rebounding.
IMO the Spurs are committing a mistake here.
Carter Bryant is their future 3/4, similar size while one projects out to being a much better shooter & athlete. It's not shocking that Sochan gets released shortly after Bryant started playing better.
The mistake the Spurs made is not getting value back for him, even if it's just a second.
I agree in the sense would of been better to get value for him.
Problem is every deal offer was teams wanted draft capital (R1 pick in return).. Spurs shopped him last summer, and like all this season till the deadline. Adding a R1 pick + Sochan wouldn't make sense.
og15 wrote:Saberestar wrote:I know that his role has been smaller than in the past but I don't understand why the Spurs don't retain him for depth at SF/PF. Makes no sense because they can play long series in the playoffs.
What if Harrison Barnes and/or Champagnie will be out in the playoffs with an injury?
Will they play him with his lack of shooting as a forward in the playoffs?
I doubt it very much, it's tough being a guy his size and having very little outside shooting ability.
Right.. Sochan wouldn't see any time barring last resort option, like foul trouble and injuries. Basically has only seen garbage time more often than not, most recently.. if it even was there; otherwise DNPs.
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He's mediocre across in all aspects of the game except for passing. He's versatile enough to guard multiple positions but doesn't particularly excel at it either.
When you're a role player the coaching staff wants to pencil you in and say "you will do x in this amount of time'. Outside of being a solid passer, he provides little production wise. His physical gifts carried him through lower levels of basketball and made him a lottery pick but you need much more than that at the NBA level i.e. Zaccharie Risacher
When you're a role player the coaching staff wants to pencil you in and say "you will do x in this amount of time'. Outside of being a solid passer, he provides little production wise. His physical gifts carried him through lower levels of basketball and made him a lottery pick but you need much more than that at the NBA level i.e. Zaccharie Risacher
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I would like for the Pacers to grab him if we can (I don't understand roster spots and things like that but I know Furphy is now out for the season.) Give him plenty of burn, try him out in different roles, contribute to the tank to some degree by letting Siakam, Nesmith, etc get more rest.
The Pacers managed to hit well on "second opportunity" guys that we scored for cheap with Nesmith and Toppin... maybe we could do the same with Sochan? Worth a shot, right?
The Pacers managed to hit well on "second opportunity" guys that we scored for cheap with Nesmith and Toppin... maybe we could do the same with Sochan? Worth a shot, right?
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Bornstellar wrote:FreeBird23 wrote:What happened to him ? Last season, he was really good and got along wonderfully with Wemby.
He wasn't though![]()
The problem is not only that he can't shoot, it's that he won't shoot too. He literally does not look to score when he is on the court which makes him unplayable with Victor because his man can just leave to double and because SA has guards like Castle/Fox/Harper who are average to poor shooters, he is unplayable in most lineups. On top of all that, he kind of strikes me as a knucklehead. I remember his time here more for his antics than his actual production
Think about it. The Spurs have NO POWER FORWARDS on their roster now and they chose to release the only one they had rather than play him. Should tell you a lot
This screams Miami Heat and Spo. Watch Spo play Sochan over Ware.
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canada_dry wrote:Waste of a top 10 pick
Drafted above jalen williams and jalen duren btw...
I liked Tari and Jalen in that draft. Sochan was drafted as jack of all trades and ended up being master of none. Hopefully he keeps working on his game and puts an NBA career together.



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