Nets have a shot at Carmelo

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Post#21 » by elbowthrower » Mon May 19, 2008 9:04 pm

Just a bunch of bunk spread by the local media. The New Jersey Record? Come on, I'm surprised the article wasn't written by Peter Vecsey.
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Post#22 » by Da big3 » Mon May 19, 2008 9:09 pm

Cruel_Ruin wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Wouldn't that explain the "Nets unlikely to get Melo" wiretap a few days ago?


that wasnt a top pick, it was more if Denver wanted to part ways with 'Melo.......
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Post#23 » by maxwellcu » Mon May 19, 2008 10:25 pm

If the nuggets do something like this, I doubt I would watch many, if any, games next year.

News flash: the problem is george karl. I don't understand why the people running the show in Denver (as far as to who specifically that is, I don't think anyone outside of the organization is really quite sure) can't get that through their thick skulls. He is a horrible coach.
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Post#24 » by dockingsched » Mon May 19, 2008 10:48 pm

NYspeedy wrote:After a trade like the Lakers Pau Gasol trade, hey you never know.


except that the lakers/grizzlies trade satisfied the direction both teams were going. grizz cut huge amounts of salary and got young talent (2 picks, critt, m. gasol) for their rebuilding/possible team sale. this trade doesn't do anything for the nuggets. they don't save much money since they're taking on RJ. camby himself is worth more than just an expiring so he can be traded on his own for a salary dump. they don't become better right now since they're trading their best player and best center. they don't rebuild, since they're trading away the young cornerstone of the franchise. this trade makes zero sense.
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Post#25 » by Flash3 » Mon May 19, 2008 11:06 pm

Do you really want your MAIN star only to score and do nothing else?

As great as Melo is, his best asset is scoring, and that's it. He's not in the mold of a Kobe, LeBron, or Wade (and not many are, but still), to get their points, but at the same time set their teammates around them in a position to succeed; the results speak for themselves.

I'd love Melo on my team, but not as my MAIN option, especially not with "scrubs" or 'role player's around him.
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Post#26 » by thierry » Mon May 19, 2008 11:09 pm

Flash3 wrote:Do you really want your MAIN star only to score and do nothing else?

As great as Melo is, his best asset is scoring, and that's it. He's not in the mold of a Kobe, LeBron, or Wade (and not many are, but still), to get their points, but at the same time set their teammates around them in a position to succeed; the results speak for themselves.

I'd love Melo on my team, but not as my MAIN option, especially not with "scrubs" or 'role player's around him.


Yeah because Devin Harris, Vince Carter, and Marcus Camby are "scrubs" and "role players."
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Post#27 » by Serpo » Mon May 19, 2008 11:10 pm

elbowthrower wrote:Just a bunch of bunk spread by the local media. The New Jersey Record? Come on, I'm surprised the article wasn't written by Peter Vecsey.


Well the writer isn't know for BS and also adds that the teams just had talks and nothing is imminant but that the Nets are trying to make something happen this summer whether it's Melo or not.


s I wrote on the print side today, the the talks between the Nets and Nuggets were more than exploratory. The sources I spoke to said a proposal was exchanged. I
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Post#28 » by Flash3 » Mon May 19, 2008 11:37 pm

thierry wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Yeah because Devin Harris, Vince Carter, and Marcus Camby are "scrubs" and "role players."
I wasn't referring to the Nets. That was a general opinion. And, notice how I said as my MAIN option?

And, FWIW, Vince Carter was able to do nothing with one of the league's best PGs and one of the better SFs in the league. I still don't see how a player like Melo (who's best asset is his scoring) will make any more of a difference alongside VC.
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Post#29 » by triplet1984 » Mon May 19, 2008 11:39 pm

The Nets should do it if its offered. I mean, it's not going to win them a title OR get them past the semi-finals, but the team sucks as it is so it would only improve them.
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Post#30 » by ChampionRed » Mon May 19, 2008 11:52 pm

Flash3 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I wasn't referring to the Nets. That was a general opinion. And, notice how I said as my MAIN option?

And, FWIW, Vince Carter was able to do nothing with one of the league's best PGs and one of the better SFs in the league. I still don't see how a player like Melo (who's best asset is his scoring) will make any more of a difference alongside VC.


That's because or terrible coach decided to run the "motion offense" that only Jefferson flourished from. We took the ball out of Carter's hands because we thought that was our problem...yet look where it brought us. Our coach sucks.
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Post#31 » by Flash3 » Mon May 19, 2008 11:59 pm

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That's because or terrible coach decided to run the "motion offense" that only Jefferson flourished from. We took the ball out of Carter's hands because we thought that was our problem...yet look where it brought us. Our coach sucks.
While coaching definitely comes into question, it isn't the end all to this issue of the Nets and the success or lack of it they've had in the post-season the past few.

I wouldn't call Doc Rivers one of the best coaches in the league, but his team thus far is fairing well. -- That's just 1 example.

Sometimes, it comes down to the players and the way they execute or don't. And, I don't see how a VC/Melo duo is going to be more successful than a Kidd/VC/RJ trio was.
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Post#32 » by JordansBulls » Tue May 20, 2008 12:00 am

Netsultimatefan63 wrote:Story on Realgm wiretap.

IF this happens would the Nets become contenders considering they would be trading their lotto pick, RJ, Williams and KVH's contract for Melo and Camby??


Deng and Gordon is a much better offer.
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Post#33 » by Buck You » Tue May 20, 2008 12:01 am

CITYOFANGELSX3 wrote:Karl must be behind this.

Yeah, wouldn't surprise me. He drove Ray Allen out of Milwaukee, so I'm sure he could strike again.
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Post#34 » by Basileus777 » Tue May 20, 2008 12:07 am

JordansBulls wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Deng and Gordon is a much better offer.


You're assuming Paxson will grow some balls anytime soon. And I don't know if Denver wants to trade for the rights to overpay two free agents.
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Post#35 » by Roxflynorth » Tue May 20, 2008 12:15 am

KVH's contract is huge and Nets have many pieces to part with in many trade screnio. Of course, you won't get as talent as Camelo and he's available. Consider even Camelo played with heart and Camby played like DPOY, they wouldn't be enough to beat the C's next year. My mind is when you want to improve you try to bulid a champs or else no matter how deep you advance you are consider failure.
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Post#36 » by halfHAVOC » Tue May 20, 2008 12:37 am

dont bring melo to jersey

KEEP RJ!!!!!
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Post#37 » by Da big3 » Tue May 20, 2008 2:04 am

halfHAVOC wrote:dont bring melo to jersey

KEEP RJ!!!!!


yup i agree RJ is a secondary player while VC is a main option, if we bring melo for RJ then we have two number 1 opitions

plus we move Carter's big contract.....
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Post#38 » by AIfan3 » Tue May 20, 2008 2:18 am

Flash3 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

While coaching definitely comes into question, it isn't the end all to this issue of the Nets and the success or lack of it they've had in the post-season the past few.

I wouldn't call Doc Rivers one of the best coaches in the league, but his team thus far is fairing well. -- That's just 1 example.

Sometimes, it comes down to the players and the way they execute or don't. And, I don't see how a VC/Melo duo is going to be more successful than a Kidd/VC/RJ trio was.


Because the nets would finally have an identity, not a couple of mismatched superstars trying to make things work.. Also the Celts are where they are because their stars complement each other really well, where as Kidd and Carter did not.. Carter was more half court oriented set up type of star, while Kidd was the more fast paced create chaos type of player.. Their games didn't mesh and it was quite apparent..

A Trio of Harris/Carter/Melo may not have the same star power ring as the Kidd/VC/RJ trio did.. But Melo is a legit number one option, and Carter can faciliate and play off the ball while harris can hit open jumpshots off of doubles that draw towards Melo/Carter.. Kidd couldn't hit a open shot to save his life.. And that in the long run buried the Nets..
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Post#39 » by NO-KG-AI » Tue May 20, 2008 2:20 am

Melo is a much better scorer than Jefferson and also plays his offense from the block, a shooter like Carter would mesh wonderfully.
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Post#40 » by Da big3 » Tue May 20, 2008 2:44 am

yup you guys hit right on the nail w/ meshing............

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