Lakers whining and crying about foul calls. Why?

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Post#21 » by mr_sunshine » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:13 pm

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you must be slow. i'm not insinuating the celtics were not being aggressive, i'm saying the celtics were getting foul calls in the paint, while we weren't. our shot count in the paint woulda been lower if we got the same calls you did. of course, with us, the refs "let them play," but with you it was called a foul everytime. at least think before you question someone majoring in math.


And why the did they call a foul? Because LA was fouling! Durrrr. The defensive rotations were HORRID last night. Re-watch the game instead of crying about the refs. Look at how many times Pierce or Garnett got double teamed and found Powe alone in the middle, and he immediately went up and got hacked to prevent a lay in. Look at how many times Pierce blew by Walton, Ariza, or Radman and got the cup and got hacked.

Now compare this with the Celtics' defense. They weren't late on rotations, they did not double off anyone much to leave someone open down low, and they contested strong on a lot of layups. They didn't foul, they played solid defense and LA did blow some bunnies down there.
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Post#22 » by Showtime:Part2 » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:14 pm

my, my, celtics fans are very defensive about the calls they were getting, as if such a discrepancy was appropriate. you know what, you're right, i guess 19-2 ft disparity in the first half was probably okay. and kobe deserved getting into foul trouble for touching ray allen.
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Post#23 » by DraftBoy10 » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:15 pm

Not even a C's fan or a Lakers fan.

But if you can't see the terrible officiating in Game 2, you are obviously blind. I thought it was horrible and took away from the game. I just wanna watch this series cause the trio & kobe, could careless about the rivalry....just good basketball but this officiating really has ruined it.

But if they continue that and use it on Celtics, I'll voice my displeasure there too.

If you aren't bitching about these calls, you're simply a complete Celtics homer. All other 29 fans of teams and the NBA can see some real bad line there. Maybe it's HCA, or idk whatever it is it needs to stop.
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Post#24 » by TommyPoints » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:16 pm

LA's defense was terrible. Ariza looked like he hasn't ever practiced with the team. The Lakers end up fouling because of poor defense.
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Post#25 » by Showtime:Part2 » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:17 pm

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And why the did they call a foul? Because LA was fouling! Durrrr. The defensive rotations were HORRID last night. Re-watch the game instead of crying about the refs. Look at how many times Pierce or Garnett got double teamed and found Powe alone in the middle, and he immediately went up and got hacked to prevent a lay in. Look at how many times Pierce blew by Walton, Ariza, or Radman and got the cup and got hacked.

Now compare this with the Celtics' defense. They weren't late on rotations, they did not double off anyone much to leave someone open down low, and they contested strong on a lot of layups. They didn't foul, they played solid defense and LA did blow some bunnies down there.


why can't you read. i said we did foul you, and yes we got called for it. the celtics were aggressive, and they got calls. at the same time, our aggressiveness is being severely underrated. if by "contested strong" you mean whacked their arm or elbowed in ribcage, then yes, the celts played terrific post defense. right, 19-1 was because we were blowing bunnies. this is THE FREAKING NBA FINALS, ATHLETES LIKE THIS DON'T BLOW ENOUGH MOTHER******* "BUNNIES" FOR 19-1 DISPARITY.
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To be honest the way Prince has played and with Kobes injury/age/mileage Im not sure I would do that deal either. Still Prince is more important and he wins the head to head battles with Kobe.
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Re: Lakers bitching and moaning about foul calls. Why? 

Post#26 » by TonyMontana » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:19 pm

GonzoLays wrote:Wasn't Boston the more aggressive team last night?

Did the Lakers take it to the hole?

Its kind of hard to get foul calls when all you do is shoot jump shots, right?

The Lakers really only have two players who are aggressive consistently at going to the hole in Kobe and Gasol.

Outside of those two guys, the rest of the team is bunch of jumpshooters. Thats the way the team was constructed around Kobe.

I could see if the Lakers were going to the hole, getting knocked down and still not getting the calls. But when you play all jumpshooters, what do you expect?



Do you even know anything about basketball?
DO you ?
Honestly, you can be honest about it, cause reading your threads and post tells me you dont.
Or all you can do is write something up and copy and paste it all over this board?

Here are some facts for you, at least if your going to post nonsense then have something with value or add a link to it so it doesnt make you look so bad.
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Leon P. went to the line 14 times .... 4 more than the enitre Laker team.

Get a grip, you guys won last night, but the enitre basketball world knows that last nights game was handed to you guys.
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Post#27 » by TommyPoints » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:21 pm

Instead of bitching about the refs, Phil should have bitched about how the team can't play NBA defense. The Pistons are the 2nd best team in the league and Cleveland plays good defense too. LA is a good offensive team and rely on that, but Boston kills them with their matchups.
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Post#28 » by Showtime:Part2 » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:21 pm

DraftBoy10 wrote:Not even a C's fan or a Lakers fan.

But if you can't see the terrible officiating in Game 2, you are obviously blind. I thought it was horrible and took away from the game. I just wanna watch this series cause the trio & kobe, could careless about the rivalry....just good basketball but this officiating really has ruined it.

But if they continue that and use it on Celtics, I'll voice my displeasure there too.

If you aren't bitching about these calls, you're simply a complete Celtics homer. All other 29 fans of teams and the NBA can see some real bad line there. Maybe it's HCA, or idk whatever it is it needs to stop.


the problem is not just this game. the celtics got major benefits from the officials against both the cavs and pistons. they would hack lebron really hard, and he wouldn't get calls. pierce however, starts crying and grimaces like he's been shot when he is touched, leading to a ridiculous number of calls.
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To be honest the way Prince has played and with Kobes injury/age/mileage Im not sure I would do that deal either. Still Prince is more important and he wins the head to head battles with Kobe.
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Post#29 » by hermes » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:21 pm

Falstaff wrote:For all the Laker fans bitching about the calls, here is a quote from the great Phil Jackson: "What the ****'s wrong with you, go sit down!"

Y'all sound like Mike D'Antoni.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbkomSsaeLQ&NR=1

it sounds like you don't like the lakers, if it were any other team the fans would be outraged at the officials too
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Post#30 » by TommyPoints » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:23 pm

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Get a grip, you guys won last night, but the enitre basketball world knows that last nights game was handed to you guys.


I guess I should take it from you. A Laker fan would know about having things handed to them.
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Post#31 » by Showtime:Part2 » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:24 pm

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I guess I should take it from you. A Laker fan would know about having things handed to them.


only thing that comes to mind is game 6 sacramento. so yup, one game in the last 2 decades i've been watchin the nba.
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To be honest the way Prince has played and with Kobes injury/age/mileage Im not sure I would do that deal either. Still Prince is more important and he wins the head to head battles with Kobe.
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Post#32 » by TonyMontana » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:25 pm

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And why the did they call a foul? Because LA was fouling! Durrrr. The defensive rotations were HORRID last night. Re-watch the game instead of crying about the refs. Look at how many times Pierce or Garnett got double teamed and found Powe alone in the middle, and he immediately went up and got hacked to prevent a lay in. Look at how many times Pierce blew by Walton, Ariza, or Radman and got the cup and got hacked.

Now compare this with the Celtics' defense. They weren't late on rotations, they did not double off anyone much to leave someone open down low, and they contested strong on a lot of layups. They didn't foul, they played solid defense and LA did blow some bunnies down there.



What a joke......
Im not even toughing this one............. :noway:
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Post#33 » by pl » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:25 pm

If anyone, KG should have been in foul trouble this game. He clearly fouled Gasol on the facial dunk and the alley-hoop lefty layup too.

Those missed calls seem even more spectacular, when you see the ones that got Kobe out of the game.
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Post#34 » by AILebronMelo » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:28 pm

pl wrote:If anyone, KG should have been in foul trouble this game. He clearly fouled Gasol on the facial dunk and the alley-hoop lefty layup too.

Those missed calls seem even more spectacular, when you see the ones that got Kobe out of the game.


I know the play you are talking about yes that could have been a foul on KG. However the play could have been a push off on Pau because he had his arm extended.
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Post#35 » by TonyMontana » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:28 pm

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I guess I should take it from you. A Laker fan would know about having things handed to them.


:rofl: Like what?
You mean the tanking to pickup the N#5 draft pick or the K.G trade for K.M to help his old team out.

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Post#36 » by Don Draper » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:29 pm

Just because you shoot shots close to the basket doesn't mean you deserve a foul call. The Celtics have one of the best defenses in the HISTORY of the NBA. I was more alarmed by some of the off the ball fouls, not the ones in the paint. According to Gasol he has never committed a foul.

Any half-retard can realize the Laker's weren't staying in front of anyone. The difference between the Lakers shooting in the paint and the Celtics shooting in the paint is that, the Celtics were shooting after they had blown by their man while the Lakers were shooting in the midst of 2-3 defenders. Don't expect to get calls if you take the ball up with 3 people on you. On the other hand don't put Vlad on Pierce, and Luke Walton on Powe and expect to play championship defense.
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Post#37 » by GreenWithEnvy » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:29 pm

theres a difference when looking at attempting shots in the paint and missing bunnies or shying away from contact because of great defensive pressure (Lakers) and going to the hoop, initiating contact or going into the contact (Celtics). just watch the game.you can clearly see who the soft team is and who isn't.

and for those of you who commented on Kobe's second foul call that Ray Allen drew.....BRUSHED OFF!? Laker fans are amazingly blind. he threw a blatant elbow. whats this brushed off ****? he threw a **** elbow at ray allen. thats an offensive foul. any day of the week.
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Post#38 » by KyleCleric » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:30 pm

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I know the play you are talking about yes that could have been a foul on KG. However the play could have been a push off on Pau because he had his arm extended.


It could have been an offensive foul on the hook, push off underneath, or left arm clear out.
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Post#39 » by Wade3Iverson » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:30 pm

Leon Powe deserved all the fouls he got. Boston would penetrate and the defense would get there too late forcing them to foul. I don't see any problem there.

That being said, I would say the Lakers probably got jobbed a bit in the first half. The second half seemed fine, especially considering the fact they were playing catch-up and shooting outside shots, i.e 3pter's.

Anyways, I still think the Lakers deserved to lose that game regardless of the refs. They were completely getting owned through 3 quarters and the main reason they started to come back was the Celtics playing lackadaisically due to the big lead.
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Post#40 » by RIPskaterdude » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:32 pm

Showtime:Part2 wrote:two wrongs dont make a right. nice ethics.


I think it's just the thought of all the Lakers fans who still refuse to admit that the 2002 WCF (game 6, especially) was GREATLY favored towards the Lakers and are now complaining that the NBA has it out for them because of the FT difference. Try having a team shoot more FT's (27) in the 4th quarter than your entire team does all night.
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