Denver-NJ in "advanced" talks

[dockingsched]

Personally I think in the end Gallinari will be included. When it comes down to it Carmelo isn't going to take 20 million less dollars just so the Knicks can have a better backup SF. I think he would take it as a slap in the face.

yeah, i have hard time seeing how the knicks in a meeting with melo could convince him that he should sacrifice millions of dollars so they could keep his backup. doesn't make any sense unless of course the knicks have something else lined up for gallo that would better compliment melo for the next few yrs.

[killbuckner]

In soccer, FIFA and UEFA don't allow players to meet with other clubs when they are under contract.

Thats not true... How do you think players negotiate their new weekly pay with the new team? IF they can't agree to that part then the trade won't go through. Its exactly the same situation where you can't have contact with another team's players unless their current team gives you permission to.

[droponov]

Isn't it weird for players under contract to have meeting with opposing team's ownership / management? I know Denver wants him to sign off but I can't remember anything like this ever happening before.

It is very weird.

In soccer, FIFA and UEFA don't allow players to meet with other clubs when they are under contract. If you do it, clubs can complain about you and UEFA will suspend your license for a year up to 5 years.

Nosense. The rules are the same: if the club authorizes - like Denver did - they can talk at will (and they do anyway, a lot more in soccer than in the NBA, that's what agents are for). In fact, in soccer the participation of the player is essential, whereas in the NBA most trades don't involve the player whatsoever, he's just traded.

[vincecarter4pres]

Its not considered tampering if Denver gives permission. I believe the whole concept is that you're "tampering" with the the player's agreement with his current team (in this case, Denver). If they're cool with it, you're not really interfering with their agreement.

I understand this, I just think it's a strange situation. I can't remember it happening before. I don't think it's very good for the league.

Example A: Kevin Garnett

[AllBall]

Isn't it weird for players under contract to have meeting with opposing team's ownership / management? I know Denver wants him to sign off but I can't remember anything like this ever happening before.

It seems like tampering to me, its very strange how they are openly meeting with opposing players.

denver has given permission. no tampering if denver is ok with it.

Yeah, it was Denver who originally was setting this up before the original deal fell through.

[vincecarter4pres]

http://www.twitter.com/NetsDaily

NetsDaily
Melo tells writers no meeting skedded with Nets, adds: "If I was to meet with that guy to be honest I really don't know what I would say."
6 minutes ago via web

He doesn't address Prohk' by name.

Wow, I just can't stand this guy, he's a phenomenal clown shoe.

And before people like MagillaG come at me with, "This is why you tear him down as a player", I call shenanigans, I hate Lebron just a little more, but have championed him as the best player in the NBA for years and still would have killed for him on the Nets despite my massive disdain for him as a person. Same with Kobe matter of fact.

[Massimo]

That's completely correct.
In futbol, teams cannot offer anything to a player who is under contract. With new rule(Bosman) they can offer a new contract to a player who is going to be free in 6 months. Other than that, clubs cannot talk to players directly.

[devv83]

http://www.twitter.com/NetsDaily

NetsDaily
Melo tells writers no meeting skedded with Nets, adds: "If I was to meet with that guy to be honest I really don't know what I would say."
6 minutes ago via web

He doesn't address Prohk' by name.

Wow, I just can't stand this guy, he's a phenomenal clown shoe.

And before people like MagillaG come at me with, "This is why you tear him down as a player", I call shenanigans, I hate Lebron just a little more, but have championed him as the best player in the NBA for years and still would have killed for him on the Nets despite my massive disdain for him as a person. Same with Kobe matter of fact.

Why are you so angry, you should be happy he doesn't wanna play for your team since you dislike him so much.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

And before people like MagillaG come at me with, "This is why you tear him down as a player", I call shenanigans, I hate Lebron just a little more, but have championed him as the best player in the NBA for years and still would have killed for him on the Nets despite my massive disdain for him as a person. Same with Kobe matter of fact.

I'm not sure why you mentioned me - I'm not a Melo fan. Hell, I don't think I'd trade Luol Deng for him.

I do think NJ needs to do the deal, but thats for business reasons more than 'winning basketball'. The Nets can't move into a new stadium in Brooklyn without a marketable star. Melo is most available - and seems to want to embrace NY and possibly Brooklyn.

Trade for him, win half your games, and hope he can recruit a second star to play in Brooklyn with him.

[killacalijatt]

those 4 picks r crap how is it high way robbery??

Lakers pick is bottom of the draft
Warriors pick isnt even gauranteed and most likely can turn into a 2nd rounder
Rockets pic is gonnna be somewere around 14

There only giving up there current pick n Favors for an extended ALLSTAR MELO IN IS PRIME
Highway robbery i dont think so

[TheNewEra]

also in a very very weak draft. Those picks bite you even more if the lock-out forces half of the talented players to return.

[Shaheen]

I know. But playing alongside the juggernaut Brooke Lopez catapults the Nets right? That jammed packed 122 section of 42 fans who ponied up a total of $36 each (includes food and limo service courtesy of Jordan Farmar), THEY are the luck ones.

Richest owners in sports He can't be the smartest since he just blew that money on Outlaw, Petro and Farmar. Hometown is not Brooklyn and even if it were he'd be better off playing for the Knicks.

A 12 win team usually doesn't have a fan base unless their in one of the most populated areas of the world.

And considering the deals that were given out this off season were a lot better than overpaying Amare. Those deals saved our cap space for real stars in 2012.

Melo is from Brooklyn check your facts.

[macksunny]

Can someone explain to me what Denver could possibly gain from allowing Melo to meet with Dolan? Its not like he needs to be sold on the Knicks and convinced to sign the extension with them. The only thing they can convince him is to derail the deal with NJ (if there even is one).

I just dont get it. Last time the melodrama took off there was all these reports about the Nets jumping through hoops on Denvers whim, getting permission for a meeting, then not getting permission, then backing out. Now supposedly this is the 1st time they actually have a deal on the table that both sides agree on that just needs Melos OK, and they are allowing Melo to meet with NY? What the hell for exactly?

[Jordan45822]

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/ ... id=6133683

A source told ESPN's Ric Bucher on Friday that Anthony would sign the extension with New Jersey if the Knicks can't make a deal.

[Soap345]

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6133683

A source told ESPN's Ric Bucher on Friday that Anthony would sign the extension with New Jersey if the Knicks can't make a deal.

Im done. Thats it. I am really curious but this has gone out of control. One second melo does nto want to talk with Pro, the next the deal is on the table....


I mean it seems like that would be something Denver would release so that NY would up their offer... Kind of like a "Top this or no go"


Wow....

[dockingsched]

Can someone explain to me what Denver could possibly gain from allowing Melo to meet with Dolan? Its not like he needs to be sold on the Knicks and convinced to sign the extension with them. The only thing they can convince him is to derail the deal with NJ (if there even is one).

I just dont get it. Last time the melodrama took off there was all these reports about the Nets jumping through hoops on Denvers whim, getting permission for a meeting, then not getting permission, then backing out. Now supposedly this is the 1st time they actually have a deal on the table that both sides agree on that just needs Melos OK, and they are allowing Melo to meet with NY? What the hell for exactly?

nuggets have nothing to lose if they are truly willing to not do the knicks deal and just hang on to melo.

if melo is genuinely willing to go to free agency rather than accept a deal with the nets, then the nuggets are screwed either way. if however, melo truly is not willing to give up that extension and would consider the nets rather than go to free agency, he'll make the knicks aware of that and get them to increase their offer.

[Soap345]

Can someone explain to me what Denver could possibly gain from allowing Melo to meet with Dolan? Its not like he needs to be sold on the Knicks and convinced to sign the extension with them. The only thing they can convince him is to derail the deal with NJ (if there even is one).

I just dont get it. Last time the melodrama took off there was all these reports about the Nets jumping through hoops on Denvers whim, getting permission for a meeting, then not getting permission, then backing out. Now supposedly this is the 1st time they actually have a deal on the table that both sides agree on that just needs Melos OK, and they are allowing Melo to meet with NY? What the hell for exactly?

nuggets have nothing to lose if they are truly willing to not do the knicks deal and just hang on to melo.

if melo is genuinely willing to go to free agency rather than accept a deal with the nets, then the nuggets are screwed either way. if however, melo truly is not willing to give up that extension and would consider the nets rather than go to free agency, he'll make the knicks aware of that and get them to increase their offer.

It seems like they do have something to lose. NY could try to convince melo not to sign with NJ... That would mess things up

[aggo]

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6133683

A source told ESPN's Ric Bucher on Friday that Anthony would sign the extension with New Jersey if the Knicks can't make a deal.

how is this any different the first time around??

[No Offense]

We're reaching the 11th hour and it's time to see who is really posturing and who is serious. I'd love for the Cavs to get involved with the TPE.

[macksunny]

nuggets have nothing to lose if they are truly willing to not do the knicks deal and just hang on to melo.

if melo is genuinely willing to go to free agency rather than accept a deal with the nets, then the nuggets are screwed either way. if however, melo truly is not willing to give up that extension and would consider the nets rather than go to free agency, he'll make the knicks aware of that and get them to increase their offer.

What do you mean they have nothing to lose? NY can convince Melo not to sign with the Nets and Denver will be forced to deal with NY for a smaller package. Or they can convince him to wait (not likely) and Nuggets can lose him for nothing.