Woj: Andrew Bynum is top target for Dwight Howard trade

[ShowTimeERA]

What are the chances Howard chooses to walk to BK over a S&T with LA ?

call me entitled, egotistical or whatever but he would be an absolute moron to do so.

How exactly does Howard walk to BK unless he's thinking about playing for the Mini-MLE...

[ShowTimeERA]

janis carr ‏@janiscarr
Agent for Andrew Bynum says he has not heard from the Lakers or any other team re: trade. "Same chatter....different time of year."


Things are quiet...

[Jordan45822]

What are the chances Howard chooses to walk to BK over a S&T with LA ?

call me entitled, egotistical or whatever but he would be an absolute moron to do so.

Nets don't have money anyways.

The only threat to LA would be Dallas or Atlanta

[Jetset]

janis carr ‏@janiscarr
Agent for Andrew Bynum says he has not heard from the Lakers or any other team re: trade. "Same chatter....different time of year."


Things are quiet...

He's either about to get Odom'd or nothing is close to happening yet.

[MannyRam99]

What are the chances Howard chooses to walk to BK over a S&T with LA ?

call me entitled, egotistical or whatever but he would be an absolute moron to do so.

How exactly does Howard walk to BK unless he's thinking about playing for the Mini-MLE...

awe yes, they just traded for JJ and are on the verge of re-signing Williams and Lopez, they're going to be tied up in contracts.

thanks for reminding me.

[Kilroy]

He's either about to get Odom'd or nothing is close to happening yet.

Yep, Mitch and Jim Buss have said repeatedly, there's no reason to inform a player or his agent until the deal is finalized...

And we all saw how well things went when that rule is broken.

[inquisitive]

It's not LA. It's Kobe he doesn't want to play with.

1) Kobe "I eat first and second" Bryant

2) Then you have the obvious problem of Howard never getting any MVP or Finals MVP votes because the team is Kobe's. He can shoot 6-24 and still get the MVP based off reputation, as Pau Gasol situation has shown you.

3) Then you have the situation where Howard's youth and talent would only be used by the Laker franchise and fans to prop up Kobe's twilight years. He would be a whipping boy when things go bad, same as Odom, Gasol, and Bynum.

Howard wants his own team, a better situation, and with a willing passer unlike Kobe. In Brooklyn, Howard gets a brand new arena, with a rich owner, a great willing passing PG in Deron, and the team is his.

If you wanna be terse, just say Howard will be Kobe's bitch...lol...sorry, couldn't resist...but i think there is something to what you said...i, too, think many stars are reluctant to play with kobe. I do think the more important thing is establishing his own unprecedented legacy in Brooklyn...

[Spades]

It's not LA. It's Kobe he doesn't want to play with.

1) Kobe "I eat first and second" Bryant

2) Then you have the obvious problem of Howard never getting any MVP or Finals MVP votes because the team is Kobe's. He can shoot 6-24 and still get the MVP based off reputation, as Pau Gasol situation has shown you.

3) Then you have the situation where Howard's youth and talent would only be used by the Laker franchise and fans to prop up Kobe's twilight years. He would be a whipping boy when things go bad, same as Odom, Gasol, and Bynum.

Howard wants his own team, a better situation, and with a willing passer unlike Kobe. In Brooklyn, Howard gets a brand new arena, with a rich owner, a great willing passing PG in Deron, and the team is his.

A lot of truth in that post. The Kobe fanboys would cream themselves at the title contention earned on Howard's arrival (as they did with Gasol's) and they would give almost ALL the credit to Kobe. We're currently in a revisionist era where these kids are portraying Gasol as a non-superstar who never won a playoff game instead of the guy who INSTANTLY made the Lakers and Kobe relevant again as winners.

I believe I can represent MOST Kobe fans buy saying you sir are false. We all have accepted that Kobe is on the decline and the Lakers as contructed right now are a Second Round exit team. Everyone(including him and the Lakers F.O.) knows the team needs a revamp to stay in the race. Kobe has nothing left to prove individually, I bet you a Double Double Animal style he would tell that to you to. But he would gladly be Dwayne 2.0 if it meant getting another ring.

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With how immature and volatile Bynum can be, I wouldn't be tellin him jack **** either.

[Kilroy]

From a pseudo-psychological standpoint, I think a Bynum/Dwight swap might be the best thing for their heads and their careers...

It seems like Dwight's been the face of the franchise too long, has had his wishes catered to a little to much, and Bynum hasn't had to carry enough of the responsibility for the teams success.

I kind of doubt the deal gets made but if it does, it'll be interesting to see how both of them react.

It's wouldn't hurt Dwight to be 'Kobe's Bitch' for a couple games, and it wouldn't hurt Bynum to have to carry a team more or less single-handedly for a while...

[GetItDone]

It's not LA. It's Kobe he doesn't want to play with.

1) Kobe "I eat first and second" Bryant

2) Then you have the obvious problem of Howard never getting any MVP or Finals MVP votes because the team is Kobe's. He can shoot 6-24 and still get the MVP based off reputation, as Pau Gasol situation has shown you.

3) Then you have the situation where Howard's youth and talent would only be used by the Laker franchise and fans to prop up Kobe's twilight years. He would be a whipping boy when things go bad, same as Odom, Gasol, and Bynum.

Howard wants his own team, a better situation, and with a willing passer unlike Kobe. In Brooklyn, Howard gets a brand new arena, with a rich owner, a great willing passing PG in Deron, and the team is his.

If you wanna be terse, just say Howard will be Kobe's bitch...lol...sorry, couldn't resist...but i think there is something to what you said...i, too, think many stars are reluctant to play with kobe. I do think the more important thing is establishing his own unprecedented legacy in Brooklyn...

It's common knowledge and known from past history, that Kobe is not a team player.

[That Nicka]

There is no way a player can win 5 championships as the first or 2nd best player on the team, without being a team player.

[Vides990]

There is no way a player can win 5 championships as the first or 2nd best player on the team, without being a team player.

Not true when the player is as talented and skilled as Kobe while regularly being on one of the most talented teams on the league.....he's allowed to be that selfish because he's that good, doesn't mean other people enjoy playing with him.

[AcecardZ]

It's common knowledge and known from past history, that Kobe is not a team player.

You'd find yourself in the minority if you're going to try to sell people on the idea that Kobe won those last two championships all by himself.

[AcecardZ]

There is no way a player can win 5 championships as the first or 2nd best player on the team, without being a team player.

Not true when the player is as talented and skilled as Kobe while regularly being on one of the most talented teams on the league.....he's allowed to be that selfish because he's that good, doesn't mean other people enjoy playing with him.

Playing with a guy that has the ball in his hands as much as Kobe does is always going to be hard but I never once saw Pau or Lamar complain about it.

[MannyRam99]

It's common knowledge and known from past history, that Kobe is not a team player.

Then since Kobe was the best player on his team the last 2 championships, he must have won them by himself then.

cool. Thanks for clarifying.

[Jetset]

There is no way a player can win 5 championships as the first or 2nd best player on the team, without being a team player.

Not true when the player is as talented and skilled as Kobe while regularly being on one of the most talented teams on the league.....he's allowed to be that selfish because he's that good, doesn't mean other people enjoy playing with him.

Playing with a guy that has the ball in his hands as much as Kobe does is always going to be hard but I never once saw Pau or Lamar complain about it.

Pau actually sort of complained about a lack of touches and trust this year. It's just that he's Pau Gasol and he's not going to openly vent to the media about his master.

[TheXFactor]

I don't think it has to do anything with Kobe.


Howard wants to be the man on the franchise and knows the Nets owner will spend money like crazy to build a team around him.

But he was stupid to opt in. Simple as that.

Lakers are the best team at this point for Orlando and Howard now.

[Vides990]

There is no way a player can win 5 championships as the first or 2nd best player on the team, without being a team player.

Not true when the player is as talented and skilled as Kobe while regularly being on one of the most talented teams on the league.....he's allowed to be that selfish because he's that good, doesn't mean other people enjoy playing with him.

Playing with a guy that has the ball in his hands as much as Kobe does is always going to be hard but I never once saw Pau or Lamar complain about it.

Winning cures a lot of feelings. Don't get me wrong Kobe didn't win them by himself, other players contributed greatly, but that doesn't mean Kobe didn't play selfishly, no ifs ands or buts.

[Kilroy]

I don't think it has to do anything with Kobe.


Howard wants to be the man on the franchise and knows the Nets owner will spend money like crazy to build a team around him.

Except under the new CBA, the owners income has less to do with how much can be spent on a team...

Once your core is set under the cap, it gets very difficult to spend more money to bring players in.

No MLE, no ability to bid on amnestied players, etc... You're stuck picking from the MMLE players and Vet Mins...