Kings <not> going to give Andre Iguodala a max contract

[SactownHrtBrks8]

Kings probably thought iguodola was only using them as leverage to get more money from other teams. It actually makes sense

[SacTownKings4Life]

We now return you to our regularly scheduled tanking already in progress... (Yippee! More lotto picks!)

Overpaid of not (we're gonna HAVE to overpay people anyway), I think that was our best shot at attracting ANY notable free agents. Who's even gonna take us seriously now? So where do we go from here? Match Tyreke and go into battle with Salmons, Outlaw, and Johnson? And we'll be one year closer to Cousins walking if we suck again.

[jeffjtk1234]

We now return you to our regularly scheduled tanking already in progress... (Yippee! More lotto picks!)

Overpaid of not (we're gonna HAVE to overpay people anyway), I think that was our best shot at attracting ANY notable free agents. Who's even gonna take us seriously now? So where do we go from here? Match Tyreke and go into battle with Salmons, Outlaw, and Johnson? And we'll be one year closer to Cousins walking if we suck again.

we have to trade some guards.

have some faith in the FO

[Winsome Gerbil]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/352298885693190145[/tweet]

Smartest thing they've done in years

I'm reminded of the Jack In the Box commercial with the two stoners who have eaten Jack's keys and phone the night before, and then wake up with no memory of it. This tweet should have read "Kings sober up, say WTH!?, rescind offer".

[pr0wler]

Horrible signing for the Kings, this team has 0 structure or direction of where they're going. Basically like the Bucks of the West.

How? They would have a nice trio of McLemore, Iggy, Cousins.

Nice trio of what? A center with attitude problems, rookie SG, and a 29-year old SF? By the time McLemore develops AI will already be in his 30's and continuing his decline. This gets the Kings absolutely nowhere in the long-term, they won't even come close to the playoffs for the next few years and at the same time they aren't building much in the way of young assets with high potential.

[JDizzel3000]

We now return you to our regularly scheduled tanking already in progress... (Yippee! More lotto picks!)

Overpaid of not (we're gonna HAVE to overpay people anyway), I think that was our best shot at attracting ANY notable free agents. Who's even gonna take us seriously now? So where do we go from here? Match Tyreke and go into battle with Salmons, Outlaw, and Johnson? And we'll be one year closer to Cousins walking if we suck again.

we have to trade some guards.

have some faith in the FO

I agree if you bring back Reke ... Two of Jimmer/Thorton/Thomas gotta go .... I actually think Thorton may have some value tho

You need to put Reke around shooters but guys who can share the ball as well not just chuckers ... I wouldn't run Reke exclusively at the point ... Maybe more of a 3 guard rotation with Reke being a point foward kind of role

Reke/Maclemore would work if you put another creator out there with them ... Idk if Jimmer could be that guy but a Mario Chalmers/Jrue Holiday style of guard is what they need ... A guy who can create and shoot but not take up a bunch of shots .. It would give them some better movement and spacing


Just my idea tho

[SacTownKings4Life]

We now return you to our regularly scheduled tanking already in progress... (Yippee! More lotto picks!)

Overpaid of not (we're gonna HAVE to overpay people anyway), I think that was our best shot at attracting ANY notable free agents. Who's even gonna take us seriously now? So where do we go from here? Match Tyreke and go into battle with Salmons, Outlaw, and Johnson? And we'll be one year closer to Cousins walking if we suck again.

we have to trade some guards.

have some faith in the FO

I agree if you bring back Reke ... Two of Jimmer/Thorton/Thomas gotta go .... I actually think Thorton may have some value tho

You need to put Reke around shooters but guys who can share the ball as well not just chuckers ... I wouldn't run Reke exclusively at the point ... Maybe more of a 3 guard rotation with Reke being a point foward kind of role

Reke/Maclemore would work if you put another creator out there with them ... Idk if Jimmer could be that guy but a Mario Chalmers/Jrue Holiday style of guard is what they need ... A guy who can create and shoot but not take up a bunch of shots .. It would give them some better movement and spacing


Just my idea tho

Isaiah Thomas can create and shoot without taking a bunch of shots. If you're GOING to run a 3 guard lineup, I don't see the point of bringing another guy in who's in all actuality no better AT the pg position than a Chalmers (don't know much about Jrue). Jimmer cannot handle pg duties because he typically panics when pressured.

But if we could only keep ONE out of Thornton, Jimmer, and Thomas, I'm taking Thomas. He's too good to just let walk IMO and he's got heart.

In any case, I think we're headed back to the lottery, like everybody apparently wants. I just feel kinda disappointed because we really could have made a big splash and tried something different. Actually trying to win for a change. Who knows where we could have taken it? I don't see anything else significant happening if Thornton and Jimmer are our only real trade pieces. Remember, we're trying to get fans back in the seats while we push for a new arena. Continued losing doesn't really help our cause.

[JDizzel3000]

we have to trade some guards.

have some faith in the FO

I agree if you bring back Reke ... Two of Jimmer/Thorton/Thomas gotta go .... I actually think Thorton may have some value tho

You need to put Reke around shooters but guys who can share the ball as well not just chuckers ... I wouldn't run Reke exclusively at the point ... Maybe more of a 3 guard rotation with Reke being a point foward kind of role

Reke/Maclemore would work if you put another creator out there with them ... Idk if Jimmer could be that guy but a Mario Chalmers/Jrue Holiday style of guard is what they need ... A guy who can create and shoot but not take up a bunch of shots .. It would give them some better movement and spacing


Just my idea tho

Isaiah Thomas can create and shoot without taking a bunch of shots. If you're GOING to run a 3 guard lineup, I don't see the point of bringing another guy in who's in all actuality no better AT the pg position than a Chalmers (don't know much about Jrue). Jimmer cannot handle pg duties because he typically panics when pressured.

But if we could only keep ONE out of Thornton, Jimmer, and Thomas, I'm taking Thomas. He's too good to just let walk IMO and he's got heart.

In any case, I think we're headed back to the lottery, like everybody apparently wants. I just feel kinda disappointed because we really could have made a big splash and tried something different. Actually trying to win for a change. Who knows where we could have taken it? I don't see anything else significant happening if Thornton and Jimmer are our only real trade pieces. Remember, we're trying to get fans back in the seats while we push for a new arena. Continued losing doesn't really help our cause.

I would think Thomas would make the most sense to keep as well ... I like that dude I like his heart ... But for that 3 guard system I would want a guy who could either match up a little better defensively or shoot the 3 at a higher clip more around that 40% range if were talking about gettin starter minutes


And I really don't understand this andre iguodala stuff man ... You guys just dodged a bullet ... The dude didnt make the playoffs 3 of the 7 years he was in Phila he never got them to record above .500 and that was in the pathetic EAST ... He's not a culture changer he's not a number 1 he's just not that guy ... He wasn't in Denver... and when he had the shot in Phila his teams were lackluster at best ... Now based on his career I really don't get why anyone thinks he would be the lynchpin to any type of winning or turn around... more than likely this team would be scratching to get to 40wins in the west while paying dude 12-13 mil ...sorry that's just not value


You guys got young talent ... Hopefully a good new coach ...you can't force it .. That's how you make dumb moves and set yourselfs back ...you just gotta make smart moves and continue To build

[Heat fan06]

What happened?

[JDizzel3000]

What happened?

Kings pulled away offer for Iggy

[Young_Star11]

Good call to withdraw the offer.

[SacTownKings4Life]

I would think Thomas would make the most sense to keep as well ... I like that dude I like his heart ... But for that 3 guard system I would want a guy who could either match up a little better defensively or shoot the 3 at a higher clip more around that 40% range if were talking about gettin starter minutes


And I really don't understand this andre iguodala stuff man ... You guys just dodged a bullet ... The dude didnt make the playoffs 3 of the 7 years he was in Phila he never got them to record above .500 and that was in the pathetic EAST ... He's not a culture changer he's not a number 1 he's just not that guy ... He wasn't in Denver... and when he had the shot in Phila his teams were lackluster at best ... Now based on his career I really don't get why anyone thinks he would be the lynchpin to any type of winning or turn around... more than likely this team would be scratching to get to 40wins in the west while paying dude 12-13 mil ...sorry that's just not value


You guys got young talent ... Hopefully a good new coach ...you can't force it .. That's how you make dumb moves and set yourselfs back ...you just gotta make smart moves and continue To build

Well... It just so happened that Philly was ONE OF those pathetic teams. Who did they even HAVE? I don't know how the original AI did it.
I was under the impression that Cousins was our number 1 with McLemore and then Iggy? 40 wins is better than 28. He may not be our "savior" or anything, but if you're gonna make improvements you have to start somewhere, right? Iggy or Salmons?

How much farther back can we really get than... 7 years in the lottery? As a bad small market team, its already understood that we have no choice BUT to over pay any potential free agent to convince them to even come here. There's ALWAYS better options, so we have to make it worth their while.

And why has the culture in the league changed so drastically to where people are scared to sign anybody older than 25 for fear of them spontaneously breaking down? You can only stay young for so long before you become a revolving door of talent. Where does the continuity come from? We spend years baby sitting guys so fresh out of college that they haven't even developed into "professional" ballers yet. By the time they reach the age where they WOULD HAVE completed their college career and properly matured, we're already pushing them out the door because they're suddenly too old now. I don't understand it...

[MKG35]

I like Iggy too much to see him play for Sacramento.


I wish Cousins, Evans and every other talent would be gone from that mayhem. Horrible franchise.

[EscapoTHB]

Looks like someone sobered up in Sacramento really fast.

They should really save their cap space and keep building through the draft and through trades.

[Dominator83]

We now return you to our regularly scheduled tanking already in progress... (Yippee! More lotto picks!)

Overpaid of not (we're gonna HAVE to overpay people anyway), I think that was our best shot at attracting ANY notable free agents. Who's even gonna take us seriously now? So where do we go from here? Match Tyreke and go into battle with Salmons, Outlaw, and Johnson? And we'll be one year closer to Cousins walking if we suck again.

we have to trade some guards.

have some faith in the FO

Would love to see a Deng for Reke trade, but that makes too much sense for both teams. I know Dengs a tad overpaid, but only for this coming year. Plus for Sac, if they dont feel its working out they can probably trade him midseason to a contender for an asset or 2

[JDizzel3000]

I would think Thomas would make the most sense to keep as well ... I like that dude I like his heart ... But for that 3 guard system I would want a guy who could either match up a little better defensively or shoot the 3 at a higher clip more around that 40% range if were talking about gettin starter minutes


And I really don't understand this andre iguodala stuff man ... You guys just dodged a bullet ... The dude didnt make the playoffs 3 of the 7 years he was in Phila he never got them to record above .500 and that was in the pathetic EAST ... He's not a culture changer he's not a number 1 he's just not that guy ... He wasn't in Denver... and when he had the shot in Phila his teams were lackluster at best ... Now based on his career I really don't get why anyone thinks he would be the lynchpin to any type of winning or turn around... more than likely this team would be scratching to get to 40wins in the west while paying dude 12-13 mil ...sorry that's just not value


You guys got young talent ... Hopefully a good new coach ...you can't force it .. That's how you make dumb moves and set yourselfs back ...you just gotta make smart moves and continue To build

Well... It just so happened that Philly was ONE OF those pathetic teams. Who did they even HAVE? I don't know how the original AI did it.
I was under the impression that Cousins was our number 1 with McLemore and then Iggy? 40 wins is better than 28. He may not be our "savior" or anything, but if you're gonna make improvements you have to start somewhere, right? Iggy or Salmons?

How much farther back can we really get than... 7 years in the lottery? As a bad small market team, its already understood that we have no choice BUT to over pay any potential free agent to convince them to even come here. There's ALWAYS better options, so we have to make it worth their while.

And why has the culture in the league changed so drastically to where people are scared to sign anybody older than 25 for fear of them spontaneously breaking down? You can only stay young for so long before you become a revolving door of talent. Where does the continuity come from? We spend years baby sitting guys so fresh out of college that they haven't even developed into "professional" ballers yet. By the time they reach the age where they WOULD HAVE completed their college career and properly matured, we're already pushing them out the door because they're suddenly too old now. I don't understand it...

You can start by feilding a functioning team that actually has guys with defined roles you can start by actually having an identity so you can know what kind of roles those players should be trying to fill you can start by not having a revolving door at the coaching spot you can start by having some simple direction as to who you are as a franchise .... Rudimentary stuff man ... You ain't gettin that by just throwing money at a players simply because you have it

I mean if I'm the kings ... By all accounts Malone seems like a defensive guy .. Well how about you go out and get some guys on reasonable deals that will allow that style of play to flourish around your core and what you already have ... Instead of paying 13mil to Iggy spend a fourth of that and get a Ronnie Brewer or Peitrus type to fill a roll as a defender off the bench ... Flip some of those guards for a decent back up big .... Start to build a bench that makes sense and works with the system keep some flexibility for crying out loud ....your cap situation doesn't look that bad ... Why blow it on a non difference maker? ... Save that for a guy that can actually take you to that next level ....or save it for a team wanting to dump a good player that won't resign with them or a guy they want tonget rid off ... Keep your options open ... But in the mean time you guys should be worried about developing the actual talent you have ... Giving them some stability

I've seen it before with my bulls ... We were terrible for years after Jordan left ... Then finally we started to make a few moves in the draft hired Scott Skiles and actually started the defensive culture and identity that Thibbs came in and took to the next level alongside of lucking out in getting rose (you guys may have that star in cousins as well) ... But it was done with baby steps ... When we tried to go out and spend just to spend we blew it on Ben Wallace .... It's not always the right thing to spend just because you have the means ... Spend because it makes sense not just because your desperate for anything

[Alienware]

Did the Nuggets really offered 63/5 for a 30 years old that is going to be past his prime very soon?

[MaxRider]

are they going to match Evans' offer?

[sacking123]

I like Iggy too much to see him play for Sacramento.


I wish Cousins, Evans and every other talent would be gone from that mayhem. Horrible franchise.

You do realise the Kings were sold right? Or have you been living under a rock?
The new regime has done brilliantly well so far, albeit in only a short time with new management and new coaching staff that is dedicated to defence and development, oh and the Kings are 1st in new ticket sales in the NBA so if that is a horrible franchise by your definition that's fine, but what I, and a lot of Kings fans can see is a franchise that has one of the brightest futures with a great ownership group that is determined to bring the Kings to the top.

[MKG35]

I like Iggy too much to see him play for Sacramento.


I wish Cousins, Evans and every other talent would be gone from that mayhem. Horrible franchise.

You do realise the Kings were sold right? Or have you been living under a rock?
The new regime has done brilliantly well so far, albeit in only a short time with new management and new coaching staff that is dedicated to defence and development, oh and the Kings are 1st in new ticket sales in the NBA so if that is a horrible franchise by your definition that's fine, but what I, and a lot of Kings fans can see is a franchise that has one of the brightest futures with a great ownership group that is determined to bring the Kings to the top.

Oh were the Kings sold, oh really? Thanks for the heads up. I really didn't know, since it was in the news 24/7 for the past few months.


Anyways, they still haven't played 1 single game so tell me how they are doing so well. And who cares if they are 1st in ticket sales, they are still not a prime destination since their team is so messed up. If I was Iggy I'd rather join the Nuggets or Detroit since they got some decent players.


The Orlando Magic has a bright future, the Kings have to retool A LOT.