Harrison Barnes Preseason Stats.

[TheDeadDodo]

"It's just 1 game" is what they say after Barnes performed well in an actual game that counts. From the same people that concluded he was a failure based on 5 preseason games. Funny.

5 preseason games and a good chunk of last season after he returned from his ankle injury. If this is what we can expect from him during his Dallas tenure, the criticism will die down.

[Patches Perry]

"It's just 1 game" is what they say after Barnes performed well in an actual game that counts. From the same people that concluded he was a failure based on 5 preseason games. Funny.

5 preseason games and a good chunk of last season after he returned from his ankle injury. If this is what we can expect from him during his Dallas tenure, the criticism will die down.

I was just commenting on the criticism of a sample size from people who made their own conclusions based on small sample sizes.

I'm not an advocate of Barnes by any means. His game seems kind of stiff to me. Good but not great athlete, good but not great shooter, not a great ball handler. Still, if he can hit threes and play defense, that's a very valuable in the league these days. Last year, he hit a dry spell shooting the ball which killed his value offensively. If those shots start falling again, I like him as a 3 and D guy. As a fan of a team that plays Kyle Singler and Andre Roberson at the wings, I'll take Barnes all day.

[ILOVEIT]

Just wait till he hits a cold spell. Warriors fans liked him for good game chunks then he'd have these nightmare games like in the finals and you just wonder why are we so invested in this guy? What happened to him? Hopefully Carlisle sits him when he turns to ice.

Hopefully getting a bigger role changes him for the better, I like the Mavs & Dirk. Bogut is one of my favorite players too, so while I like the Mavs I still expect bad things from HB.

Bottom line....can he produce EVERY game in a way that doesn't end up being stat padding in a losing season? If he can help the team win ....average 20 points in doing so....low turnovers etc...then he'll be a success.

If he shows up here and there and the team goes in the tank..then he's a bust (relative to expectations and his contract)

[DonaldSanders]

Just wait till he hits a cold spell. Warriors fans liked him for good game chunks then he'd have these nightmare games like in the finals and you just wonder why are we so invested in this guy? What happened to him? Hopefully Carlisle sits him when he turns to ice.

Hopefully getting a bigger role changes him for the better, I like the Mavs & Dirk. Bogut is one of my favorite players too, so while I like the Mavs I still expect bad things from HB.

Bottom line....can he produce EVERY game in a way that doesn't end up being stat padding in a losing season? If he can help the team win ....average 20 points in doing so....low turnovers etc...then he'll be a success.

If he shows up here and there and the team goes in the tank..then he's a bust (relative to expectations and his contract)

Yup. I'm cheering for him and the Mavs, I've been a Dirk/Nash fan for a long time. It's possible a promotion pulls him up, lets hope so. Some people play better with a bigger role.

[Q C]

MKG>Harrison Barnes

and even making 10 mil a year less

[Baz]

Barnes with a career high 31 points tonight. Looked like a different player.

[Johnny Firpo]

He'll come back to earth, I wish he didn't, but it's inevitable. If he couldn't show consistency with the Warriors shooting wide open shots, there is no way he will keep making contested ones at this rate. Sorry, just being realistic. It was obvious that he wasn't going to be as bad as he was during the preseason, but it is just as obvious that he is not this good.

[Lord Cuban]

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[dc]

He'll come back to earth, I wish he didn't, but it's inevitable. If he couldn't show consistency with the Warriors shooting wide open shots, there is no way he will keep making contested ones at this rate. Sorry, just being realistic. It was obvious that he wasn't going to be as bad as he was during the preseason, but it is just as obvious that he is not this good.

I saw some stuff in him vs. the Rox that I didn't see before in GS. Namely, that was actually calling for the ball and initiating some of the offense down the stretch. The game was a little bit out of reach at that point for the Mavs, but still good on Barnes. I liked his attitude and body language on the floor, forgetting about the stats. He looked like he was really competing out there as opposed to just showing up every now and then to hit a shot.

A couple post ups still looked like old Barnes where he tried to get around a smaller guy and couldn't, but there were also a couple good moves as well and I think he scored on Ariza on consecutive trips down the floor.

Good start for Barnes overall. The big obstacle to note right now is that he did most of his damage offensively at PF, which has always been the case. He works much better offensively as a small ball PF, but it's not something you want him doing for 30 mins a night. He has to still be efficient and productive at SF, which is something he just didn't do enough well enough in GS.

But as a Barnes critic, props to him for his start. Forget the stats, I liked his body language and how he looked like he was really engaged and competing out there. I think I saw sweat on his face for the first time ever, LOL.

[BIG FURB]

He'll come back to earth, I wish he didn't, but it's inevitable. If he couldn't show consistency with the Warriors shooting wide open shots, there is no way he will keep making contested ones at this rate. Sorry, just being realistic. It was obvious that he wasn't going to be as bad as he was during the preseason, but it is just as obvious that he is not this good.

Im not gonna put any cap on the guy saying what he can and can't do. Nobody saw guys like Paul george, Jimmy Butler or kawhi Leonard becoming the players they became until they got the chance to show and prove. I'll make a definitive statement on what type of player he is at seasons end. The only thing anyone can say with any surety right now is he's been pretty damn good these first 2 games

[TheNewEra]

He'll come back to earth, I wish he didn't, but it's inevitable. If he couldn't show consistency with the Warriors shooting wide open shots, there is no way he will keep making contested ones at this rate. Sorry, just being realistic. It was obvious that he wasn't going to be as bad as he was during the preseason, but it is just as obvious that he is not this good.

Im not gonna put any cap on the guy saying what he can and can't do. Nobody saw guys like Paul george, Jimmy Butler or kawhi Leonard becoming the players they became until they got the chance to show and prove. I'll make a definitive statement on what type of player he is at seasons end. The only thing anyone can say with any surety right now is he's been pretty damn good these first 2 games

Exactly people righting him off before he even gets going. I'm rooting for the guy just for majority of the people to eat crow.

[dc]

Im not gonna put any cap on the guy saying what he can and can't do. Nobody saw guys like Paul george, Jimmy Butler or kawhi Leonard becoming the players they became until they got the chance to show and prove.

Barnes got plenty of chances to prove himself in GS. That's the biggest misconception about his early career. Came in as a higher rated prospect than Klay. Also plenty of games where one of the big 3 where either injured or resting and everyone would anticipate a "breakout game" for Barnes, only to watch him finish with something like 8 points and 3 rebounds.

He got opportunity. What he might need is an opportunity where there isn't a safety net behind him and everyone is counting on him on a nightly basis.

[BIG FURB]

I disagree, when Barnes came to that team it already had curry and David Lee as it's main guys with Klay starting to ascend. Then after he showed people a glimpse of what he was capable of in the playoffs they brought in Iggy and he was relegated to the bench (where he struggled admittedly). He was never given this type of opportunity, to be a No 1 or 2 guy, on that team. If ya saying that ya lying.

[rcfc1]

I disagree, when Barnes came to that team it already had curry and David Lee as it's main guys with Klay starting to ascend. Then after he showed people a glimpse of what he was capable of in the playoffs they brought in Iggy and he was relegated to the bench (where he struggled admittedly). He was never given this type of opportunity, to be a No 1 or 2 guy, on that team. If ya saying that ya lying.

Barnes kept his starting spot. Iguodala came off the bench the entire time (still is).

[dc]

Then after he showed people a glimpse of what he was capable of in the playoffs they brought

That only happened because Pop took Kawhi off of him and onto Klay. Barnes wound up being defended by Ginobilli and Parker for much the time, thus you got the "glimpses". Had Pop just played it straight up and kept him on Barnes, you would've never heard from him.

[TeamTragic]

Barnes proving everyone wrong after two games. He might be the only bright spot on this Maverick team.

[primecougar]

I disagree, when Barnes came to that team it already had curry and David Lee as it's main guys with Klay starting to ascend. Then after he showed people a glimpse of what he was capable of in the playoffs they brought in Iggy and he was relegated to the bench (where he struggled admittedly). He was never given this type of opportunity, to be a No 1 or 2 guy, on that team. If ya saying that ya lying.

Barnes kept his starting spot. Iguodala came off the bench the entire time (still is).

Iguodala went to the bench when Steve Kerr got signed. In Marc Jacksons last year Barnes was on the bench and iggy was starting.

I expect you to know this as a warriors fan

[MrSparkle]

I still don't get why Barnes was laughed out of town.

Harden didn't have a stellar finals performance either, as a talented rookie-contract player playing behind more established all-star options.

You can't suck that bad if you're starting and averaging 26+ mpg on a 73-9 team.

People are gonna eat crow. Barnes looks good in these 2 games. His handles look smoother.

[RGM_SU]

What will always restrict Barnes is his ability to get to the rim, he just has a pretty bad combination of the following:

1) Lack of an explosive first step
2) Lack of hip flexibility
3) Lack of great handles

That's why he looks better at PF than at SF since against bigger and slower guys the above factors can be somewhat minimised.

Draftexpress in their breakdown back in 2012 assigned Luol Deng as his ceiling, which I think is a pretty good estimate of his maximum value, although Barnes is a significantly better outside shooter.

[Torgeir Bryn]

While he probably won't hit pull-up jumpers at this rate the whole season, he looked really confident and I liked how he asserted himself on offence. Barnes is gonna be hard to guard for a lot of big 4's, but a bit less effective when he plays SF.