2nd best player in the nba

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2nd best

Durant
123
42%
Curry
28
10%
Westbrook
49
17%
Harden
23
8%
Lowry
8
3%
Leonard
59
20%
Paul George
2
1%
 
Total votes: 292

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Re: 2nd best player in the nba 

Post#201 » by 10DayContract » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:56 pm

bmurph128 wrote:
Starboy wrote:Lebron is the second best player in NBA.



C'mon, this is what people were saying last year before the finals. Not only is he the best player in the NBA, there's a bigger gap between him and #2 than there is #2 and #10


Even you don't believe that. Lebron may be the best, but he's not lapping the competition. If he was, all the talk about Curry last year wouldn't have even happened.
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Re: 2nd best player in the nba 

Post#202 » by Starboy » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:27 pm

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jg77 wrote:Still not sure how LeBron is universally the best player in the NBA because he won last year's final. Last time I checked the Warriors and Cavs are 1-1 and each team has an asterisk on their championship.


He was the best player in the finals the year before as well. He was just shy of winning finals MVP while being on the losing team. That's absurd in the modern era.

Last year, he was not only the best in a huge underdog situation, but led both teams in all categories - points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks. That's also absurd. This was for all the marbles, less than 8 months ago. I'm not sold on LeBron declining so much in 8 months that he has lost his status. Yes, he isn't the 82 game marathon warrior anymore, but for a series? Nobody better right now.

LeBron is the best. Even if he has lost a step and isn't the best, we'll need someone to dethrone him before coming to that conclusion. Not sure how you can put anyone over him until they prove it against him when it counts. When you've been the best for almost a decade, you're owed that much.


Lebron is getting praised for 2015 finals while Westbrook is getting mixed reactions for this year. Same situation. High volume, low efficiency stat chasing that worked until Kerr made a simple adjustment. After that Curry either put the games away himself or kicked it to open Iguodala. Literally the 3 deciding games in 2015 finals came down to 4th quarter runs by a Iggy/Curry combo.
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Re: 2nd best player in the nba 

Post#203 » by Patches Perry » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:43 pm

Starboy wrote:
Patches Perry wrote:
jg77 wrote:Still not sure how LeBron is universally the best player in the NBA because he won last year's final. Last time I checked the Warriors and Cavs are 1-1 and each team has an asterisk on their championship.


He was the best player in the finals the year before as well. He was just shy of winning finals MVP while being on the losing team. That's absurd in the modern era.

Last year, he was not only the best in a huge underdog situation, but led both teams in all categories - points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks. That's also absurd. This was for all the marbles, less than 8 months ago. I'm not sold on LeBron declining so much in 8 months that he has lost his status. Yes, he isn't the 82 game marathon warrior anymore, but for a series? Nobody better right now.

LeBron is the best. Even if he has lost a step and isn't the best, we'll need someone to dethrone him before coming to that conclusion. Not sure how you can put anyone over him until they prove it against him when it counts. When you've been the best for almost a decade, you're owed that much.


Lebron is getting praised for 2015 finals while Westbrook is getting mixed reactions for this year. Same situation. High volume, low efficiency stat chasing that worked until Kerr made a simple adjustment. After that Curry either put the games away himself or kicked it to open Iguodala. Literally the 3 deciding games in 2015 finals came down to 4th quarter runs by a Iggy/Curry combo.


In 2015, LeBron was the best player on the court against the best team in basketball loading up on him because he was without offensive help.

In 2016, LeBron was the best player on the court against that same team, and his scoring efficiency improved because he was able to pick his spots more as a scorer.

Either way, I don't think you can watch all 13 games and conclude LeBron isn't the best player alive. If you want to come to a different conclusion based on regular season games, be my guest, but LeBron doesn't bring it all regular season because he knows when he needs to perform most. 4 regular season MVPs later, the regular season is just primer now.
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Re: 2nd best player in the nba 

Post#204 » by Ambrose » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:47 pm

Starboy wrote:
Patches Perry wrote:
jg77 wrote:Still not sure how LeBron is universally the best player in the NBA because he won last year's final. Last time I checked the Warriors and Cavs are 1-1 and each team has an asterisk on their championship.


He was the best player in the finals the year before as well. He was just shy of winning finals MVP while being on the losing team. That's absurd in the modern era.

Last year, he was not only the best in a huge underdog situation, but led both teams in all categories - points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks. That's also absurd. This was for all the marbles, less than 8 months ago. I'm not sold on LeBron declining so much in 8 months that he has lost his status. Yes, he isn't the 82 game marathon warrior anymore, but for a series? Nobody better right now.

LeBron is the best. Even if he has lost a step and isn't the best, we'll need someone to dethrone him before coming to that conclusion. Not sure how you can put anyone over him until they prove it against him when it counts. When you've been the best for almost a decade, you're owed that much.


Lebron is getting praised for 2015 finals while Westbrook is getting mixed reactions for this year. Same situation. High volume, low efficiency stat chasing that worked until Kerr made a simple adjustment. After that Curry either put the games away himself or kicked it to open Iguodala. Literally the 3 deciding games in 2015 finals came down to 4th quarter runs by a Iggy/Curry combo.


If you think they are the same situation then you shouldn't be posting.
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Re: 2nd best player in the nba 

Post#205 » by inquisitive » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:13 am

KD or Kawhi...flip a coin for me....at least for this year.
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