WCF: P3 | (1) Houston Rockets vs (2) Golden State Warriors | Tied 2-2

[Spanish_Laker]

Series over.

[ken6199]

I still don't get why Javale doesn't get some minutes. He played well in garbage time in game 3.

McGee, West, Zaza, Nene, Black, Anderson, and to some extent Capela are all unplayable in this series.

Of course you can go "Hey Imma go big and force you to go big", but more likely than not, you get killed by fielding one of those bigs out there, who immediately gets picked on and attacked to death. That would be the automatic breakdown of that ultimate switch chain. This series is about pace, Houston obviously picked up the pace in game 2 and that's the game they won. It's not just about the overall possession pace e.g. 7SOL, it's more about the pace of switching and rotating, and faster transitions.

The game 3 garbage time had -20 deficiency, Houston starters all had around -20 plus minus in a 41 pt blowout. I would not put too much attention into 3rd string bench vs bench.

I think Kerr hopes D'Antoni puts Nene in, so he can counter with West. Kerr loves his high post facilitation around the elbow with the half court sets. As far as Javale, I think brief minutes would work, but as you noted, he'd get exposed on certain switches, and despite his length and aestheticism, he usually is a second behind when returning to protect the rim after moving out on the perimeter. Other than that, his energy is a plus.

I remember Nene only played 5 minutes in game 1 largely because Houston's front court was lacking rotation due to Ariza's foul trouble, and he got murdered in those minutes lol. With a seemingly, slowly improving Luc, I guess MDA is content with the 5 spot lineup of Capela/Tucker/Luc. West does great facilitating from the high post, and his elite midrange is not something you can "dare him to shoot", but again on the other end our guards will have a field trip on him. I think both coaches will be very cautious with putting West/Nene in.

Now if Iggy is out tonight, things can get very interesting. When Capela was on the court, we used to see two of KD/Green/Iggy covering Harden and Capela, that means after Capela sets a screen for Harden, GS still have two guys with quickness and athleticism (and reasonable size) covering both ball handler and roll man. That's why we saw so few of Harden lobs to Capela in game 1-3. That defense gets thinner without Iggy, who's going to fill that role? Or Kerr goes ultra small, giving those minutes to Young? Is Cook ready for big minutes?

[commentatorer]

Houston only need a split @ Golden State, so it doesn't actually matter that they lost Game 3, as long as they win Game 4.
And at first I didn't mind who won this series, but when I saw Curry do that amazingly childish dance and yelling, I definitely prefer Houston.
I just don't know what would make Curry think that was a good idea, as nobody will ever view him as an adult after that.
He already has the face of a toddler, no reason to act like one too

[ken6199]

Series over.

But seriously, would love to see you start posting something with substance, for once.

[Lala870]

And at first I didn't mind who won this series, but when I saw Curry do that amazingly childish dance and yelling, I definitely prefer Houston.
I just don't know what would make Curry think that was a good idea, as nobody will ever view him as an adult after that.
He already has the face of a toddler, no reason to act like one too

Curry is arguably the most arrogant player in NBA history but he plays it off in interviews which throws people off. Cant stand the dude and it will be a great day when this warriors run is done.

[Shady Franchise]

And at first I didn't mind who won this series, but when I saw Curry do that amazingly childish dance and yelling, I definitely prefer Houston.
I just don't know what would make Curry think that was a good idea, as nobody will ever view him as an adult after that.
He already has the face of a toddler, no reason to act like one too

Curry is arguably the most arrogant player in NBA history but he plays it off in interviews which throws people off. Cant stand the dude and it will be a great day when this warriors run is done.

Oh the irony! Coming from a Kobe fan!

[Edrees]

I still don't get why Javale doesn't get some minutes. He played well in garbage time in game 3.

McGee, West, Zaza, Nene, Black, Anderson, and to some extent Capela are all unplayable in this series.

Of course you can go "Hey Imma go big and force you to go big", but more likely than not, you get killed by fielding one of those bigs out there, who immediately gets picked on and attacked to death. That would be the automatic breakdown of that ultimate switch chain. This series is about pace, Houston obviously picked up the pace in game 2 and that's the game they won. It's not just about the overall possession pace e.g. 7SOL, it's more about the pace of switching and rotating, and faster transitions.

The game 3 garbage time had -20 deficiency, Houston starters all had around -20 plus minus in a 41 pt blowout. I would not put too much attention into 3rd string bench vs bench.

Great post, seems obvious now after your explanation!

Houston only need a split @ Golden State, so it doesn't actually matter that they lost Game 3, as long as they win Game 4.
And at first I didn't mind who won this series, but when I saw Curry do that amazingly childish dance and yelling, I definitely prefer Houston.
I just don't know what would make Curry think that was a good idea, as nobody will ever view him as an adult after that.
He already has the face of a toddler, no reason to act like one too

I think it speaks to your dedication to the NBA that your preference on who wins a conference finals is completely based on one shimmy. What these players do off the court, style of play, history, etc all are irrelevant, but when it comes to the shimmy, you got a clear leniency. Also you must be a new NBA fan because Curry has been doing this for years, so one would think you'd favor the rockets long before the series began.

[JunkYardDog6ix]

Houston only need a split @ Golden State, so it doesn't actually matter that they lost Game 3, as long as they win Game 4.
And at first I didn't mind who won this series, but when I saw Curry do that amazingly childish dance and yelling, I definitely prefer Houston.
I just don't know what would make Curry think that was a good idea, as nobody will ever view him as an adult after that.
He already has the face of a toddler, no reason to act like one too

Where have you been ? Curry has been doing stuff like that for years, one of the most arrogant players in the league.

[bmurph128]

So if they do win the 3rd title and that constitutes breaking the league, they are to be condemned for succeeding at what LeBron has been trying to do for nearly a decade ?.

Your response makes no sense for what I posted. Them winning a third title wouldn't constitute them "breaking the league" - and anything could happen - if Klay or Draymond leave the team will be mortal again. But if they bounce this Rockets team with ease, going up against them will feel hopeless until at least one of them leaves.

They are not immune to age or injury, and if someone can build a team around an athletic big too strong for Green they might be in trouble as well.

As I have said, I don’t have a problem with people not liking GSW being dominant if they prove to be again, but even apart from GSW not having taken Durant from OKC imo (OKC no longer had him, he was a Free Agent and had given OKC a more than adequate try) complaining about GSW killing competition in the West given LeBron has made FA moves twice to help him dominate the East for 7 years and now possibly an 8th is a bit much.

I would probably feel the same if I were a Warriors fan.

But nonetheless, the only threat the Warriors faced in the West was from Kevin Durant.

I'm fine with people saying the stacking the deck narrative from the perspective of KD and LeBron - but what the Warriors did by signing KD and the imbalance it created would have been either Boston or Orlando signing LeBron back in 2010.

[JunkYardDog6ix]

And at first I didn't mind who won this series, but when I saw Curry do that amazingly childish dance and yelling, I definitely prefer Houston.
I just don't know what would make Curry think that was a good idea, as nobody will ever view him as an adult after that.
He already has the face of a toddler, no reason to act like one too

Curry is arguably the most arrogant player in NBA history but he plays it off in interviews which throws people off. Cant stand the dude and it will be a great day when this warriors run is done.

Yes definitely one of the most arrogant players in history, he pretends to be subtle about it which is even worse.

[commentatorer]

Houston only need a split @ Golden State, so it doesn't actually matter that they lost Game 3, as long as they win Game 4.
And at first I didn't mind who won this series, but when I saw Curry do that amazingly childish dance and yelling, I definitely prefer Houston.
I just don't know what would make Curry think that was a good idea, as nobody will ever view him as an adult after that.
He already has the face of a toddler, no reason to act like one too

Where have you been ? Curry has been doing stuff like that for years, one of the most arrogant players in the league.

I've seen Curry do it before but overlooked it recently because I'm a Durant fan (as in I like him more than Paul/Harden) so I don't mind seeing Golden State beat Houston (so Durant can win another Finals MVP), but now I want Houston to win just so I don't have to see Curry dancing again this year.

[Mylie10]

Houston only need a split @ Golden State, so it doesn't actually matter that they lost Game 3, as long as they win Game 4.
And at first I didn't mind who won this series, but when I saw Curry do that amazingly childish dance and yelling, I definitely prefer Houston.
I just don't know what would make Curry think that was a good idea, as nobody will ever view him as an adult after that.
He already has the face of a toddler, no reason to act like one too

Where have you been ? Curry has been doing stuff like that for years, one of the most arrogant players in the league.

He was celebrating a rise from the dead.

[JunkYardDog6ix]

Houston only need a split @ Golden State, so it doesn't actually matter that they lost Game 3, as long as they win Game 4.
And at first I didn't mind who won this series, but when I saw Curry do that amazingly childish dance and yelling, I definitely prefer Houston.
I just don't know what would make Curry think that was a good idea, as nobody will ever view him as an adult after that.
He already has the face of a toddler, no reason to act like one too

Where have you been ? Curry has been doing stuff like that for years, one of the most arrogant players in the league.

He was celebrating a rise from the dead.

Yeah we know , he's dead/injured after every bad game he has

[ken6199]

Yeah we know , he's dead/injured after every bad game he has

Aside from a very few, most GS fans are not using that excuse, so let's quick baiting and say something more meaningful.

[JunkYardDog6ix]

Yeah we know , he's dead/injured after every bad game he has

Aside from a very few, most GS fans are not using that excuse, so let's quick baiting and say something more meaningful.

I disagree with that , and Curry fans in general use this excuse quite often. Numerous broadcasters including JVG have mentioned this over the past few weeks.

[xfactor]

Yeah we know , he's dead/injured after every bad game he has

Aside from a very few, most GS fans are not using that excuse, so let's quick baiting and say something more meaningful.

I disagree with that , and Curry fans in general use this excuse quite often. Numerous broadcasters including JVG have mentioned this over the past few weeks.

Stating facts is not an excuse. I don't think he faked the injury that kept him out. Common sense says it takes time to get rhythm, timing, stamina, strength, etc. back to pre-injury status. Only irrational haters dismiss that piece of reality.

That being said, as I've said, performance is performance. If he sucks he sucks, regardless of circumstances. Steph is not using it as an excuse at all. And for the record, my eye test says he's still not right, despite his last performance. No inconsistency there.

[John Murdoch]

Dantoni is stubborn af. Sure play ur game at home but @GS theres no way u beat them at theyre own game. Capela has been horribly misused

[xfactor]

McGee, West, Zaza, Nene, Black, Anderson, and to some extent Capela are all unplayable in this series.

Of course you can go "Hey Imma go big and force you to go big", but more likely than not, you get killed by fielding one of those bigs out there, who immediately gets picked on and attacked to death. That would be the automatic breakdown of that ultimate switch chain. This series is about pace, Houston obviously picked up the pace in game 2 and that's the game they won. It's not just about the overall possession pace e.g. 7SOL, it's more about the pace of switching and rotating, and faster transitions.

The game 3 garbage time had -20 deficiency, Houston starters all had around -20 plus minus in a 41 pt blowout. I would not put too much attention into 3rd string bench vs bench.

I think Kerr hopes D'Antoni puts Nene in, so he can counter with West. Kerr loves his high post facilitation around the elbow with the half court sets. As far as Javale, I think brief minutes would work, but as you noted, he'd get exposed on certain switches, and despite his length and aestheticism, he usually is a second behind when returning to protect the rim after moving out on the perimeter. Other than that, his energy is a plus.

I remember Nene only played 5 minutes in game 1 largely because Houston's front court was lacking rotation due to Ariza's foul trouble, and he got murdered in those minutes lol. With a seemingly, slowly improving Luc, I guess MDA is content with the 5 spot lineup of Capela/Tucker/Luc. West does great facilitating from the high post, and his elite midrange is not something you can "dare him to shoot", but again on the other end our guards will have a field trip on him. I think both coaches will be very cautious with putting West/Nene in.

Now if Iggy is out tonight, things can get very interesting. When Capela was on the court, we used to see two of KD/Green/Iggy covering Harden and Capela, that means after Capela sets a screen for Harden, GS still have two guys with quickness and athleticism (and reasonable size) covering both ball handler and roll man. That's why we saw so few of Harden lobs to Capela in game 1-3. That defense gets thinner without Iggy, who's going to fill that role? Or Kerr goes ultra small, giving those minutes to Young? Is Cook ready for big minutes?

Yeah, I remembered that stretch with Nene v West. I liked it. Lol. I did forget about Ariza's foul trouble that caused that change in rotation. I doubt Iggy plays, so Kerr will have to get creative with his combinations. I'd guess some combo of Looney/Bell, then Young/Cook, by committee. It would have been nice to have McCaw ready, but that black cat running through the Dub organization is too thorough.

[bb22]

And at first I didn't mind who won this series, but when I saw Curry do that amazingly childish dance and yelling, I definitely prefer Houston.
I just don't know what would make Curry think that was a good idea, as nobody will ever view him as an adult after that.
He already has the face of a toddler, no reason to act like one too

Curry is arguably the most arrogant player in NBA history but he plays it off in interviews which throws people off. Cant stand the dude and it will be a great day when this warriors run is done.

I can't fault a player for showing emotion in a big game after making big plays. Don't mind the screaming and stuff. But ya, the shimmy stuff is a little much. Especially during a blowout... In a game where he was throwing up bricks early, before the Rockets gave up.

[e83pw2oa9hl5f]

Curry isn't even the first person to do that dance? Nor is he the first to celebrate. Fans of the sport long?
After watching the warriors be in the bottom of the league for decades and having everyone dance all over us I cant help but laugh at these comments. The irony.. And then to suffer so long, to get a new owner that gave a damn has been worth the wait. Drafted the core and had a good free agent signing within the CBA is good business sense. Brought in winners from the business. Former agent as GM, and the logo. Look at all the bad management around the league by some recycled failed agendas and you mock success? That is a loser mentality. Celebrate success and try to copy it. Dont copy the losers and complain.