WCF: P4 | (1) Houston Rockets vs (2) Golden State Warriors | Tied 2-2

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Who is going to win?

Houston in 6
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Houston in 7
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Re: WCF: P4 | (1) Houston Rockets vs (2) Golden State Warriors | Tied 2-2 

Post#201 » by ILOVEIT » Thu May 24, 2018 7:37 pm

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iggymcfrack wrote:Anyway, I feel Andre Iguodala’s the key to tonight’s game. He’s currently listed as questionable. If he can’t go at all, I love the Rockets chances. Warriors lack of depth 1-4 is killer, especially with Klay a little banged up. If he can play at 100%, Warriors maybe have a slight edge? If he can go, but he’s not quite right, a step slow on D and doesn’t trust his shot on O, I still like the Rockets, but should be another close game that comes down to the final minutes. Either way, I’m very excited. Should be a fantastic game tonight!

I would sit Iggy....give him a few more days....knowing game 6 is at home....get him ready for games 6 n 7....GS should take care of business in game 6


I think Warriors will beat Rockets in game 6 at home...with or without Iggy. They clearly SHOULD have done so in game 4...in control most of the way.

Tonight's game IS the game. Iggy should go even if it's 15 minutes....5 in the final minutes of the game.
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Post#202 » by MrCheerios » Thu May 24, 2018 8:11 pm

og15 wrote:This is defense

The Warriors' 14 assists in Game 4 represented a series low. Their 48.2 assist rate in the series is worse than the Rockets' assist percentage (49.3), a remarkable and surprising development. The final period on Tuesday revealed Golden State at its most unrecognizable and disjointed

http://www.espn.com/nba/preview?gameId=401032765

Is GS actually going to adjust or are they going to try and win with isoball and beat the Rockets at their own game? The Rockets are also forcing them into more isolation, it's not just that GS is forgetting how they play, great defense is part of the equation.

Take what the defense gives you? GS was scoring 116ppg prior to game 4. Houston is letting KD iso and he was murdering them in the first three games. It's pretty impressive that Houston has not wavered on their gameplan at all. GS is going to score regardless, but it does seem like their best option.
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Re: WCF: P4 | (1) Houston Rockets vs (2) Golden State Warriors | Tied 2-2 

Post#203 » by Tigersrule » Thu May 24, 2018 8:11 pm

Lets go Rockets
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Post#204 » by TommyPoints » Thu May 24, 2018 8:14 pm

Lets go Rockets. Here is to hoping for all new blood in the finals this year. :beer:
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Post#205 » by nbafan38 » Thu May 24, 2018 8:22 pm

Nice to have a series. Still going with Warriors in 6 but if Rockets win tonight I can see them actually pulling this off in 7.
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Post#206 » by Grillman » Thu May 24, 2018 8:24 pm

Let’s see if Houston’s defense can carry over.

If so...the basketball world will be in hysteria tomorrow morning.
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Post#207 » by msr999 » Thu May 24, 2018 8:35 pm

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houston is 4-2 vs warriors this year in games harden has played

2-1 in oracle

houston is a better team
clearly


Regular season record don't mean a thing. Ask Lebron

I'm sure LeBron wish they have home court advantage against Boston


Valid point. However, Pacers went 3-1 vs Cle. That CHI team with Rose was 4-0 in regular season and lost 0-4 in ecf to Heat.
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Post#208 » by Spanish_Laker » Thu May 24, 2018 8:35 pm

Let's go Rockets!
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Re: WCF: P4 | (1) Houston Rockets vs (2) Golden State Warriors | Tied 2-2 

Post#209 » by og15 » Thu May 24, 2018 9:04 pm

MrCheerios wrote:
og15 wrote:This is defense

The Warriors' 14 assists in Game 4 represented a series low. Their 48.2 assist rate in the series is worse than the Rockets' assist percentage (49.3), a remarkable and surprising development. The final period on Tuesday revealed Golden State at its most unrecognizable and disjointed

http://www.espn.com/nba/preview?gameId=401032765

Is GS actually going to adjust or are they going to try and win with isoball and beat the Rockets at their own game? The Rockets are also forcing them into more isolation, it's not just that GS is forgetting how they play, great defense is part of the equation.

Take what the defense gives you? GS was scoring 116ppg prior to game 4. Houston is letting KD iso and he was murdering them in the first three games. It's pretty impressive that Houston has not wavered on their gameplan at all. GS is going to score regardless, but it does seem like their best option.
The question becomes whether the Warriors are actually trying hard enough to play their way or if they are too easily taking what the defense gives them which is causing them to isolate more. You have to fight him to get what you want, then if you can't, that's when you take what the defense gives. The Rockets are certainly forcing a lot of it, but the Warriors at times are also playing into it. The strategy has worked so far for Houston, they just need it to work in their favor for a couple more games.
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Post#210 » by Clyde Frazier » Thu May 24, 2018 9:27 pm

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Post#211 » by cavs4life03 » Thu May 24, 2018 9:29 pm

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HotTubMike wrote:Dude, CP3 and Harden losing this series to the Warriors won't "show the [play-off choker] label has been warranted all along" - you don't "choke" if you lose in 6 or 7 games to this Warriors team. It's literally the greatest team of all time missing 0 impact players.

At this point, no matter how the series ends, Houston has shown up and acquitted themselves well.

It's a best of three and the Rockets play two of them at home. Of course it can be a choke. You don't get participation trophies. James carried the choker label with him for quite some time after the 2011 finals and the Heat lost in 6.
didn't kobe got swept by the same mavs team I still wonder why he gets a pass every time.

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Post#212 » by TheGOATRises007 » Thu May 24, 2018 9:29 pm

msr999 wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
msr999 wrote:
Regular season record don't mean a thing. Ask Lebron

I'm sure LeBron wish they have home court advantage against Boston


Valid point. However, Pacers went 3-1 vs Cle. That CHI team with Rose was 4-0 in regular season and lost 0-4 in ecf to Heat.


4-1 loss and the series was closer than the result indicated.

But I agree with your point. RS series doesn't mean a thing. Think the Nets were 4-0 vs the Heat in 2013-2014 too and they lost 4-1 as well.
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Post#213 » by igorbianch » Thu May 24, 2018 9:30 pm

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If they lose this series...Rockets + 20 teams I’d take to beat the Rockets


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They might be the "most stacked team off all time", or "most talented", but they definitely arent the BEST(it involves mutiple factors)team of all time, and the possibility of losing this series without a major injury to Houston proves that.

The 73 win team was an ATG regular season team, but werent this good the playoffs. They were in the same tier as Cavs and OKC(lost 7 out of 14 games against those 2 teams), so IMO this "73 team" is overrated. They were a great team but far from this level as people try to make pre-Durant.

Rockets is the first real challenge(Cavs had no defense and Spurs lost Kawhi)they face post Durant, and they have a legit chance to get eliminated. How is that the greatest team of all time? It doesnt make sense.

Jordan 2x 3peat is the best team of all time because they proved that on reality, not just on paper. They had the talent and were mentally tough as ****, the opposite of this Warriors, and thats why they were almost unbeatable.

Talent-wise they are obviously amazing, but even then i'm not sure i would take them over LeBron Heatles just in terms of talent.
So Jordan's Bulls never got taken to seven games? They never even got taken to six games? So they just swept through the playoffs, that's what you're telling me?


Only twice. And one of them was in 98 when MJ wasnt is his peak anymore. Warriors stars are all in the 28~30 range, when players are in the physical and mental peak.
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Post#214 » by afox » Thu May 24, 2018 10:49 pm

igorbianch wrote:
RightToCensor wrote:
igorbianch wrote:
They might be the "most stacked team off all time", or "most talented", but they definitely arent the BEST(it involves mutiple factors)team of all time, and the possibility of losing this series without a major injury to Houston proves that.

The 73 win team was an ATG regular season team, but werent this good the playoffs. They were in the same tier as Cavs and OKC(lost 7 out of 14 games against those 2 teams), so IMO this "73 team" is overrated. They were a great team but far from this level as people try to make pre-Durant.

Rockets is the first real challenge(Cavs had no defense and Spurs lost Kawhi)they face post Durant, and they have a legit chance to get eliminated. How is that the greatest team of all time? It doesnt make sense.

Jordan 2x 3peat is the best team of all time because they proved that on reality, not just on paper. They had the talent and were mentally tough as ****, the opposite of this Warriors, and thats why they were almost unbeatable.

Talent-wise they are obviously amazing, but even then i'm not sure i would take them over LeBron Heatles just in terms of talent.
So Jordan's Bulls never got taken to seven games? They never even got taken to six games? So they just swept through the playoffs, that's what you're telling me?


Only twice. And one of them was in 98 when MJ wasnt is his peak anymore. Warriors stars are all in the 28~30 range, when players are in the physical and mental peak.


He guaranteed victory in that '98 game 7... I believe it was in the game 6 post game....The other game 7 against the Knicks, they won by 29...
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Post#215 » by Edrees » Thu May 24, 2018 10:50 pm

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HotTubMike wrote:Dude, CP3 and Harden losing this series to the Warriors won't "show the [play-off choker] label has been warranted all along" - you don't "choke" if you lose in 6 or 7 games to this Warriors team. It's literally the greatest team of all time missing 0 impact players.

At this point, no matter how the series ends, Houston has shown up and acquitted themselves well.

It's a best of three and the Rockets play two of them at home. Of course it can be a choke. You don't get participation trophies. James carried the choker label with him for quite some time after the 2011 finals and the Heat lost in 6.
didn't kobe got swept by the same mavs team I still wonder why he gets a pass every time.

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I'm guessing getting swept after 4 straight finals appearance / 2 titles is grounds for getting a pass. Nobody gets a choker label once they've won a title or two, Dirk got rid of his after he won just one.
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Post#216 » by Ballerhogger » Thu May 24, 2018 10:53 pm

Must win the warriors . See how they look without iggy?
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Post#217 » by Rednation91 » Thu May 24, 2018 11:27 pm

Can't believe people are downplaying how much more talented gsw(and have played together longer) is just to try and stick the choker label on cp3 and harden
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Post#218 » by TheGOATRises007 » Thu May 24, 2018 11:33 pm

No excuses for Kerr anymore tonight.

He's tried being cute all series and it's failed him.

If he doesn't get Curry(with KD) in more pick and roll action, he should be ashamed of himself. He's literally throwing this series away with how he's coaching the offense and his horrific rotations.
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Post#220 » by letsgorockets » Thu May 24, 2018 11:36 pm

No Iggy, if Klay is hobbled at all then the Rockets might be able to stun the basketball world. Win game 5, and go play 6 secure in knowing game 7 at home is waiting no matter what. Of course under the same circumstances losing tonight would probably be so deflating that game 6 would likely be a slaughter.

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