Woj: Clippers Trade Tobias Harris to Sixers for Landry Shamet, Two 1st Rnds, Wilson Chandler

[theonlyclutch]

Expensive for a rental but I really like the fit. Harris is a much needed shooter on the wings and if Jimmy bolts in the summer, he's young enough to be on the same time line with Embiid and Simmons as a contender

[DeRoma]

The Sixers are banking too much on Simmons for this to really work. I don't think he is a good enough distributor or ball handler for this team to mesh together. Butler and Embiid is too iso heavy in order to be effective. Harris also need a ton of shots for his percentage to stay the way it is. For this to work they need to up their tempo extremely fast and I don't see Embiid being more productive in that kind of offense. Defensively they are scary. However, I still don't see them slowing down GSW high octane offense.

[DeRoma]

Expensive for a rental but I really like the fit. Harris is a much needed shooter on the wings and if Jimmy bolts in the summer, he's young enough to be on the same time line with Embiid and Simmons as a contender

Harris is no pure shooter while he is good. He'll need to get touches in order for him to get going. I'm not sure there will be enough possession for everyone for this team.

[hype_2004]

The big question for Philly...now you have 4 guys that need the ball in their hands lol. I think they're going to struggle to find chemistry.

Lol, it's all about fitting in, I don't really care about this trade. Someone on that sixers team is gonna be mighty unhappy with there role, 4 ball dominant dudes sharing 1 ball? Lol.

[OkcSinceSGA]

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Boom. Clippers and Tobias ended on good terms like DJ. Not at all like CP3 or Blake.

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[grindtime22]

Expensive for a rental but I really like the fit. Harris is a much needed shooter on the wings and if Jimmy bolts in the summer, he's young enough to be on the same time line with Embiid and Simmons as a contender

It's more of a rent to own. They are going to pay him. It will be interesting to see if they go full on max at 5/190. You can bet they are going to pay more than 4/141 that another team can pay him.

[Metallikid]

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Boom. Clippers and Tobias ended on good terms like DJ. Not at all like CP3 or Blake.

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You can't say you're having an all-star season and not be named an all-star. That's just not how it works.

[CoreyGallagher]

Expensive for a rental but I really like the fit. Harris is a much needed shooter on the wings and if Jimmy bolts in the summer, he's young enough to be on the same time line with Embiid and Simmons as a contender

Harris is no pure shooter while he is good. He'll need to get touches in order for him to get going. I'm not sure there will be enough possession for everyone for this team.

He shoots 40% from three catching and shooting. His 1.28 ppp is top 5 percentile.

[DeRoma]

Expensive for a rental but I really like the fit. Harris is a much needed shooter on the wings and if Jimmy bolts in the summer, he's young enough to be on the same time line with Embiid and Simmons as a contender

It's more of a rent to own. They are going to pay him. It will be interesting to see if they go full on max at 5/190. You can bet they are going to pay more than 4/141 that another team can pay him.

only way this work imo is if they let go of butler and keep harris. If they keep all 4 they are in trouble.

[DeRoma]

Expensive for a rental but I really like the fit. Harris is a much needed shooter on the wings and if Jimmy bolts in the summer, he's young enough to be on the same time line with Embiid and Simmons as a contender

Harris is no pure shooter while he is good. He'll need to get touches in order for him to get going. I'm not sure there will be enough possession for everyone for this team.

He shoots 40% from three catching and shooting.

While getting a ton of touches from the high post. If you are expecting the Clippers Tobias Harris you need to give him the ball. However, if you want him to be a spot up shooter then Magic Tobias Harris. Who will get a max contract averaging 15 a game.

[TheDavinciCHODE]

Doesn't seem that expensive to me considering Philly's pick is going to be very high 20s.

Harris is exactly what they need and this isn't really a "rental" considering he's most likely going to resign with them because they'll have bird rights and max him. Philly is clearly going all-in on this season and the future. Trading the Miami pick is steep but worth it if they want to win this season. That Miami pick could very well turn into a star in 2024.....but Philly has 3 stars that want to win now.

Good trade for both sides. Philly gets the player they need to win now and LAC turns a player they were gonna let walk into future assets while getting worse in the short term.

East is gonna be interesting now for the deadline. MIL and TOR probably won't stand pat.

[RB34]

The Sixers are banking too much on Simmons for this to really work. I don't think he is a good enough distributor or ball handler for this team to mesh together. Butler and Embiid is too iso heavy in order to be effective. Harris also need a ton of shots for his percentage to stay the way it is. For this to work they need to up their tempo extremely fast and I don't see Embiid being more productive in that kind of offense. Defensively they are scary. However, I still don't see them slowing down GSW high octane offense.

Simmons is not a good distributor and doesn’t have a good handle? What.

[sacking123]

I love this trade for Clippers. They are serious players for AD now and they will clear enough for 2 max FAs. They are going to be a fun team to watch, off the court.

Unless the Pels trade him there out of spite to us (which i'm not ruling out), what would they offer? SGA and Jerome Robinson + the Miami first and the 12-14th pick and that 76ers pick?

We offered 2 firsts + our young 3 (and possibly Hart and Zubac) and we're taking back that scrub Solomon Hill. That offer still doesn't really come close.

Boston are about the only team that could legit beat our offer (unless a team like Denver takes a flyer on him or the knicks come in and offer the #1 pick).

Well I would think Shai/Robinson/Shamet/Harrell/2019 Clippers 1st/2020 Miami 1st/2022 1st.

Whether you like it or not, the Pelicans apparently aren't falling over themselves about the Lakers youth which is completely reasonable. The Clippers package allows them more time to rebuild with all of them having long term rookie scale contracts except for Harrell.

Personally I'm a fan of Ingram and Ball in the right environment and think they can be stars, not superstars, but stars. Kuzma is going to be a good role player on a good team at the least.

The thing that is missing out of what both the Clippers and Lakers can offer is that one big pick. The Miami pick could be jut that, probably won't though.

[grindtime22]

Expensive for a rental but I really like the fit. Harris is a much needed shooter on the wings and if Jimmy bolts in the summer, he's young enough to be on the same time line with Embiid and Simmons as a contender

Harris is no pure shooter while he is good. He'll need to get touches in order for him to get going. I'm not sure there will be enough possession for everyone for this team.

He is shooting 39% on catch and shoot 3s, but he does like the pullups and has shot a ridiculous 48.5% on pullup 3s. That is actually better than pullup 2s (45%). If he is open, it's lights out behind the arc. He is good at scoring everywhere, but he can certainly provide spacing.

[DeRoma]

The Sixers are banking too much on Simmons for this to really work. I don't think he is a good enough distributor or ball handler for this team to mesh together. Butler and Embiid is too iso heavy in order to be effective. Harris also need a ton of shots for his percentage to stay the way it is. For this to work they need to up their tempo extremely fast and I don't see Embiid being more productive in that kind of offense. Defensively they are scary. However, I still don't see them slowing down GSW high octane offense.

Simmons is not a good distributor and doesn’t have a good handle? What.

For strickly playing the PG position yes.

[TMU]

Fantastic trade for both teams. Philly might be the team to beat in the East.

[Spens1]

I love this trade for Clippers. They are serious players for AD now and they will clear enough for 2 max FAs. They are going to be a fun team to watch, off the court.

Unless the Pels trade him there out of spite to us (which i'm not ruling out), what would they offer? SGA and Jerome Robinson + the Miami first and the 12-14th pick and that 76ers pick?

We offered 2 firsts + our young 3 (and possibly Hart and Zubac) and we're taking back that scrub Solomon Hill. That offer still doesn't really come close.

Boston are about the only team that could legit beat our offer (unless a team like Denver takes a flyer on him or the knicks come in and offer the #1 pick).

Well I would think Shai/Robinson/Shamet/Harrell/2019 Clippers 1st/2020 Miami 1st/2022 1st.

Whether you like it or not, the Pelicans apparently aren't falling over themselves about the Lakers youth which is completely reasonable. The Clippers package allows them more time to rebuild with all of them having long term rookie scale contracts except for Harrell.

Personally I'm a fan of Ingram and Ball in the right environment and think they can be stars, not superstars, but stars. Kuzma is going to be a good role player on a good team at the least.

The thing that is missing out of what both the Clippers and Lakers can offer is that one big pick. The Miami pick could be jut that, probably won't though.

Its not bad sure. But that doesn't beat the offer we have on the table nor does it beat a hypothetical Boston offer as well. So if they're taking that, they're more or less doing it out of spite.

[CoreyGallagher]

Harris is no pure shooter while he is good. He'll need to get touches in order for him to get going. I'm not sure there will be enough possession for everyone for this team.

He shoots 40% from three catching and shooting.

While getting a ton of touches from the high post. If you are expecting the Clippers Tobias Harris you need to give him the ball. However, if you want him to be a spot up shooter then Magic Tobias Harris. Who will get a max contract averaging 15 a game.

Redick is averaging 18.3 by strictly spotting up and getting to his spots. Tobias is also much more versatile than him.

[grindtime22]

Expensive for a rental but I really like the fit. Harris is a much needed shooter on the wings and if Jimmy bolts in the summer, he's young enough to be on the same time line with Embiid and Simmons as a contender

It's more of a rent to own. They are going to pay him. It will be interesting to see if they go full on max at 5/190. You can bet they are going to pay more than 4/141 that another team can pay him.

only way this work imo is if they let go of butler and keep harris. If they keep all 4 they are in trouble.

Yeah, I mean I don't think you make the trade unless you know you are going to spend the money to resign him. It would be funny If the 76ers have a deal lined up with Miami for Butler.

[DeRoma]

He shoots 40% from three catching and shooting.

While getting a ton of touches from the high post. If you are expecting the Clippers Tobias Harris you need to give him the ball. However, if you want him to be a spot up shooter then Magic Tobias Harris. Who will get a max contract averaging 15 a game.

Redick is averaging 18.3 by strictly spotting up and getting to his spots.

what about the other 4? All of them have a usage rate of 20 atleast. What do you do with that? Who will distribute and control the tempo? Are you expecting them to iso all game long? with spot shooters for Harris and Reddick? Is that really a good way to spend 190 for that player to just shoot outside jumpers? I mean this guy is no Klay.