Woj: Celtics/Jaylen Brown agree to four-year, $115M million extension

[TheNewEra]

We can’t use the 2018 playoffs to validate this deal. Year 2 of his contract might be when you get a true idea of the direction he will end up going

[GrandTheftRondo]

Wheres the lie tho?

The lie is horford top free agent in 2016 behind KD, Hayward top free agent in his free agent class, kemba all nba player and a top free agent.

So that’s 3 all star players that have openly committed to being in Boston willingly . Meanwhile your Knicks gave up KP to sign Bobby portis and Marcus Morris (who the Celtics let leave btw)

While we aren’t the lakers or Miami attracting free agents and that’s unfortunate the good news is we aren’t the Knicks- who couldn’t even get a meeting with Durant this summer (Celtics did in 16) or kawhi or kemba whose from nyc.

And we know we know “the knicks didn’t wanna meet with them” that’s like the dude who never had a chance with a chick getting rejected and then calling her names because he’s insecure.

Of course you’re gonna get B level free agents when you throwing out 4 year max contracts

Thats the exact reason why Knicks been so trash. By over paying players that simply arent worth it. Lol idk why its so hard for you to admit that Ainge is operating as a small market team

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Also are you really that uneducated about how much tampering went on this free agency? You can’t seriously use that “Knicks didnt get a meeting” nonsense Lol Kemba was a Celtic before free agency even began. With your logic I guess most of the free agents didnt even get a proper meeting. Everything changed after that Achilles injury.

Lol not sure WTF you’ve been watching when you watch Al Horford but he’s anything but B level. Doesn’t compare to the bums that the Knicks sign. He’ll probably end up a major reason the Sixers make the finals this year.

Same goes with Hayward. But I guess this is RealGM where everyone conveniently ignores Hayward’s horrible ankle injury and acts like he was going to be terrible all along, when in reality maybe he wasn’t a true max guy but he was still going to be a major player and great fit next to Horford and Irving who instead never got to be at his best with them.

[manlisten]

Going to take our insider's word over yours...he said you guys were prepared to.

Even if not you guys, our insider mentioned Cleveland being a team that would also

Either Jaylen Brown's agent is very clever or Ainge is extremely gullible.

Or you just don't want to accept what our guy reload says. It's all good man if you don't and just want to blindly hate on Ainge, like most of the GB does anyway

It's a common tactic used by agents to increase their client's bargaining power. Not everything is hate.

[TheBallsDeeper]

Terrible contract. I'm not sure if Brown is exceptional at anything on the basketball court. It's huge money tied up for a role player.

[MagicBagley18]

The Celtics are a social club, not a serious competitive team.

They’ve made it to the ECF’s 5 times over the last 11 years, including 2 finals appearances and a championship ring, Been in the playoffs every year but one even during a rebuild, I won’t bring up the banners before that but what they’ve done over the last 11 years is equal to what a lot of teams have done over decades.

While I agree they aren’t a real championship contender this season they are far from a social club.

[ajones9219]

threads like this make me wonder if anyone actually watches players or just reads raw stats

[Tai]

I mean, obviously this deal is basically a gamble, I don't think there's anyway to spin that, even if only $103M is guaranteed (not a small thing but still). But to some people's point, of course the GB's all too eager to jump down the Celtics' throats on this.

I'll say this; I've always been a fan of Jaylen so I'm glad he's staying. I don't have the exact stats, but he made great strides in the 2nd half of the season. But yes, hopefully he can live up to this contract.

[SweetTouch]

Lmao almost choked on my Cheerios

[Pinkyring]

Lock him in before giving him the chance to have a big year and therefore save the team money. Tha Ta one possibility.

Secondly, the Celtics season was completely derailed last year by Kyrie Irving and a number of other factors. Brown not having an extension absolutely would have become a big talking point and most likely a distraction.

then trade him, he'd have to be a 25ppg guy to earn that money since he doesn't give u much anywhere else and is an average shooter. Teams giving big extension's to role players over trading them is sbsurd

Why trade someone Ainge clearly believes in?

The Celtics aren’t a genuine contender right now. They’ve got big money locked up with Kemba and Hayward. Tatum and Brown becoming high level players is their path to contending.

So you're not holding a low upside player with a terrible contract....... they had 3 options, trade him, let him stay on his rookie deal and play it out, give him a terrible contract, they. Chose the worst possible chooce. Even if you opt not to move it, let him play it out, if proves max worth pay him, there is no point moving him now to save the extra 5m per when atm he's a 12m player

[Dez]

Well that's an overpay and a half.

[iLLmatic860]

The lie is horford top free agent in 2016 behind KD, Hayward top free agent in his free agent class, kemba all nba player and a top free agent.

So that’s 3 all star players that have openly committed to being in Boston willingly . Meanwhile your Knicks gave up KP to sign Bobby portis and Marcus Morris (who the Celtics let leave btw)

While we aren’t the lakers or Miami attracting free agents and that’s unfortunate the good news is we aren’t the Knicks- who couldn’t even get a meeting with Durant this summer (Celtics did in 16) or kawhi or kemba whose from nyc.

And we know we know “the knicks didn’t wanna meet with them” that’s like the dude who never had a chance with a chick getting rejected and then calling her names because he’s insecure.

Of course you’re gonna get B level free agents when you throwing out 4 year max contracts

Thats the exact reason why Knicks been so trash. By over paying players that simply arent worth it. Lol idk why its so hard for you to admit that Ainge is operating as a small market team

Read on Twitter

?s=21

Read on Twitter

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Also are you really that uneducated about how much tampering went on this free agency? You can’t seriously use that “Knicks didnt get a meeting” nonsense Lol Kemba was a Celtic before free agency even began. With your logic I guess most of the free agents didnt even get a proper meeting. Everything changed after that Achilles injury.

Lol not sure WTF you’ve been watching when you watch Al Horford but he’s anything but B level. Doesn’t compare to the bums that the Knicks sign. He’ll probably end up a major reason the Sixers make the finals this year.

Same goes with Hayward. But I guess this is RealGM where everyone conveniently ignores Hayward’s horrible ankle injury and acts like he was going to be terrible all along, when in reality maybe he wasn’t a true max guy but he was still going to be a major player and great fit next to Horford and Irving who instead never got to be at his best with them.

Not knocking Horford. He is one of the best players they have signed in free agency easily. Also should tell you something. Even he decided to leave. Replacing their best defensive anchor with Kanter is a huge L lol

[ajones9219]

then trade him, he'd have to be a 25ppg guy to earn that money since he doesn't give u much anywhere else and is an average shooter. Teams giving big extension's to role players over trading them is sbsurd

Why trade someone Ainge clearly believes in?

The Celtics aren’t a genuine contender right now. They’ve got big money locked up with Kemba and Hayward. Tatum and Brown becoming high level players is their path to contending.

So you're not holding a low upside player with a terrible contract....... they had 3 options, trade him, let him stay on his rookie deal and play it out, give him a terrible contract, they. Chose the worst possible chooce. Even if you opt not to move it, let him play it out, if proves max worth pay him, there is no point moving him now to save the extra 5m per when atm he's a 12m player

except he is a very high upside player....so....

[LordCovington33]

What's the motivation to give this awful deal now? He'd have to be a legit all star to command 30m a year and he's barely an above average starter. I'm just befuddled

Lock him in before giving him the chance to have a big year and therefore save the team money. Tha Ta one possibility.

Secondly, the Celtics season was completely derailed last year by Kyrie Irving and a number of other factors. Brown not having an extension absolutely would have become a big talking point and most likely a distraction.

Getting paid way more than they are worth motivates a player to have a big year? Wasn’t that the logic behind offering Wiggins an albatross? I can understand a player’s free agency could become a big talking point if the player is an All Star or a likely one (e.g. Tatum), but we are talking about Jaylen Brown. There has also been talk about the Hawks having interest in him, but they just used two top 10 draft picks on wings. Who else was targeting him at the price he is supposedly commanding?

[TheMartian]

One thing's for sure - other players will want to sign with Jaylen's agent now.

[TheFinishSniper]

Celtics paid him a price worth of not trading him for real superstar. They valued him at such, so if anything Brown got as much as what Celtics valued him in first place. It has nothing to do with overpay. Just being dumb GM.

[GrandTheftRondo]

then trade him, he'd have to be a 25ppg guy to earn that money since he doesn't give u much anywhere else and is an average shooter. Teams giving big extension's to role players over trading them is sbsurd

Why trade someone Ainge clearly believes in?

The Celtics aren’t a genuine contender right now. They’ve got big money locked up with Kemba and Hayward. Tatum and Brown becoming high level players is their path to contending.

So you're not holding a low upside player with a terrible contract....... they had 3 options, trade him, let him stay on his rookie deal and play it out, give him a terrible contract, they. Chose the worst possible chooce. Even if you opt not to move it, let him play it out, if proves max worth pay him, there is no point moving him now to save the extra 5m per when atm he's a 12m player

Low upside? Based on what exactly?

He’s athletic, defends and can shoot the 3. Does he have flaws? Absolutely. But he’s a hard worker and as has been said he wouldn’t be the first raw wing to turn himself into a great player. He wasn’t a top 5 pick for the sake of it.

[LordCovington33]

Either Jaylen Brown's agent is very clever or Ainge is extremely gullible.

Or you just don't want to accept what our guy reload says. It's all good man if you don't and just want to blindly hate on Ainge, like most of the GB does anyway

It's a common tactic used by agents to increase their client's bargaining power. Not everything is hate.

He got paid 28mill because some random RealGM poster claiming to be an insider (lol) says the Hawks (who uses two Top 10 Picks on wings) were chasing him? The logic on this forum continues to surprise me.

[GrandTheftRondo]

What's the motivation to give this awful deal now? He'd have to be a legit all star to command 30m a year and he's barely an above average starter. I'm just befuddled

Lock him in before giving him the chance to have a big year and therefore save the team money. Tha Ta one possibility.

Secondly, the Celtics season was completely derailed last year by Kyrie Irving and a number of other factors. Brown not having an extension absolutely would have become a big talking point and most likely a distraction.

Getting paid way more than they are worth motivates a player to have a big year? Wasn’t that the logic behind offering Wiggins an albatross? I can understand a player’s free agency could become a big talking point if the player is an All Star or a likely one (e.g. Tatum), but we are talking about Jaylen Brown. There has also been talk about the Hawks having interest in him, but they just used two top 10 draft picks on wings. Who else was targeting him at the price he is supposedly commanding?

I didn’t say anything about him getting paid motivating him. I said him locking him up now saves the Celtics money if they expect him to really
improve this year. And I don’t see how this isn’t true. If Brown this season shows the same level of defence he has in the past and offensive improvement I would have been very surprised if some team wasn’t throwing even bigger coin his way. A young former high pick that defends and shoots the 3 at the wing spot would be a player several teams would pay good money for.

[bon]

Kawhi Leonard in 3rd year: 12.8 PPG/ 1.2 RB/ 2 assists
Brown in third year: 13 PPG/ 4.2 RB/ 1.4 assists

But yeah we can totally tell if a player is going to be any good based off raw stats in their third year and Brown is a bum.

They're only comparable in their 3rd years if you want to ignore defense, shooting and the fact that Kawhi was already Finals MVP on a championship roster at that stage while Brown was coming off the bench for a 2nd round exit

[amcoolio]

No longer want him as a buy low candidate. Yikes