Worst Championship Team Since 2007?

[Swish1906]

Its the mavs come on people. They beat teams off of their streaky shooting and dirk going off before the finals. Then they took advantage of a heat team with a choking lebron

The raptors probably wouldn't beat a healthy warriors team but beating the bucks and 76ers was extremely impressive. The Mavs did well but they overplayed.

Again, the Mavs won 57 games in the RS, with Dirk missing 9 games (2-7 record).

They werent just "hot" in the playoff. What an ignorant take

[Slim Charlez]

Looool this is the 2015 warriors.... they had the least impressive run.

Mike Conley and Tony Allen were injuried and missed some games in the second round I believe.
Cavs had love and kyrie injuried... and still took them 6 games.

Raptors still beat warriors 2 games with klay playing.

2010 Lakers had tough path to the final itself. That year he 8th seed was the 50 win thunder.

Mavs had the best run off all time.

The 2019 Raptors basically beat the 2015 Warriors. The Warriors were very average without KD too. I actually don't even know how they made the Finals. The West was trash last year. The real Finals was Toronto vs. Milwaukee. I knew they had in the bag after that series.

2015 warriors were way deeper and way healthier than in 2019. Not even a close comparison.

[Archerbro]

Its the mavs come on people. They beat teams off of their streaky shooting and dirk going off before the finals. Then they took advantage of a heat team with a choking lebron

The raptors probably wouldn't beat a healthy warriors team but beating the bucks and 76ers was extremely impressive. The Mavs did well but they overplayed.

Again, the Mavs won 57 games in the RS, with Dirk missing 9 games (2-7 record).

They werent just "hot" in the playoff. What an ignorant take

I recall John Hollinger having an article right after the title bout how the mavs winning the title was not as unexpected because they were on par with 60 win teams had it not been for dirk's injury.

what was so rich about it too was that Hollinger still would not accept the mavs being good in the clutch (ending points of a game) despite how obvious it was that Miami looked lost in the series down the stretch, and how much better the mavs looked by comparison.

[Roger Murdock]

Its the mavs come on people. They beat teams off of their streaky shooting and dirk going off before the finals. Then they took advantage of a heat team with a choking lebron

The raptors probably wouldn't beat a healthy warriors team but beating the bucks and 76ers was extremely impressive. The Mavs did well but they overplayed.

Again, the Mavs won 57 games in the RS, with Dirk missing 9 games (2-7 record).

They werent just "hot" in the playoff. What an ignorant take

'On paper' that Mavs team looks a lot worse than it played out in practice. They fit extremely well together, passed, shot, rebounded, etc... The team did it all and had amazing chemistry. I think they beat most of the other teams on the list.

However on paper, that team had nowhere near the starpower these other teams had so it appears to be worse. Who was their second best player? Maybe Tyson Chandler? Basically every other team listed has a HoFer in their near prime 2nd option and lots have great third options too.

That Mavs team was special for those same reasons its getting disrespect now. Team in truest form of the word.

[jimmy keys]

Looool this is the 2015 warriors.... they had the least impressive run.

Mike Conley and Tony Allen were injuried and missed some games in the second round I believe.
Cavs had love and kyrie injuried... and still took them 6 games.

Raptors still beat warriors 2 games with klay playing.

2010 Lakers had tough path to the final itself. That year he 8th seed was the 50 win thunder.

Mavs had the best run off all time.

The 2019 Raptors basically beat the 2015 Warriors. The Warriors were very average without KD too. I actually don't even know how they made the Finals. The West was trash last year. The real Finals was Toronto vs. Milwaukee. I knew they had in the bag after that series.

2015 warriors were way deeper and way healthier than in 2019. Not even a close comparison.

Yeah you're right Harrison Barnes would've put them over the top.

[Stan]

The 2019 Raptors basically beat the 2015 Warriors. The Warriors were very average without KD too. I actually don't even know how they made the Finals. The West was trash last year. The real Finals was Toronto vs. Milwaukee. I knew they had in the bag after that series.

2015 warriors were way deeper and way healthier than in 2019. Not even a close comparison.

Yeah you're right Harrison Barnes would've put them over the top.

Their depth was considerably better in 2015 than it was last year. You can laugh him off, but Barnes would've been a better replacement for Durant than anyone else the Warriors tried last year. You add in Bogut on top of having both younger & better versions of Iggy & Livingston, it's really not even debatable that their depth was better then. That's not to mention Klay missing 2 different 4th quarters and the entirety of Game 3

[Slim Charlez]

2015 warriors were way deeper and way healthier than in 2019. Not even a close comparison.

Yeah you're right Harrison Barnes would've put them over the top.

Their depth was considerably better in 2015 than it was last year. You can laugh him off, but Barnes would've been a better replacement for Durant than anyone else the Warriors tried last year. You add in Bogut on top of having both younger & better versions of Iggy & Livingston, it's really not even debatable that their depth was better then. That's not to mention Klay missing 2 different 4th quarters and the entirety of Game 3

The depth disparity is night and day between the 2015 and 2019 sides.

[Bornstellar]

2015 Warriors >>> 2019 injury depleted Warriors. Their roster around Steph/Klay/Draymond was superior in 2015. I can't even comprehend how someone would say teams 4 years apart are basically the same the 2010 and 2014 Spurs were not the same. The 2011 and 2014 Heat were not the same. The 2000 and 2003 Lakers were not the same. Etc

[Roco14]

These threads make me realize how young some people are here People talk about the Kobe/Pau Lakers like they were ancient history some many generations ago when it's only been 10 years. The game has not evolved THAT much aside from the three point chuckfest. And Gasol was shooting 3s as a pretty decent % toward the end of his career. I can't believe someone insinuated 2010 Pau wouldn't start on the Raps in place of current Ibaka

You're downplaying the "3 point chuckfest" just a little bit, don't you think? It's changed the game dramatically to the point that I'd argue even a Houston team of today would have a shot at beating the Kobe-Pau lakers, certainly the bucks. Now, if the Lakers team was up to date on the evolution of the game and they were shooting 3's at a normal clip in todays game, that's a different story. But statistically speaking a team from a decade ago would struggle heavily in today's NBA climate.

No they wouldn't. You act like teams from different eras playing now wouldn't be able to adjust like they wouldn't understand the rules and how the game is played now. Spurs teams in the 2000s were always loaded with shooters to play out of Duncan double teams. You insert any previous champ since 2007 and I guarantee they are one of the top teams in the league again this year.

I tried simplifying it for you, but you still didn't understand.

I'm saying if you DIDN'T let them adjust, and brought the Lakers from a decade ago against a top team from today, they would get smoked. If they got a training camp, could watch film, etc. and their roster was prepared for the 2020 game - that would be a different story, but then that wouldn't be the same team anymore and the players would have had to evolve to match others.

[jimmy keys]

Yeah you're right Harrison Barnes would've put them over the top.

Their depth was considerably better in 2015 than it was last year. You can laugh him off, but Barnes would've been a better replacement for Durant than anyone else the Warriors tried last year. You add in Bogut on top of having both younger & better versions of Iggy & Livingston, it's really not even debatable that their depth was better then. That's not to mention Klay missing 2 different 4th quarters and the entirety of Game 3

The depth disparity is night and day between the 2015 and 2019 sides.

Yeah that's fair I guess, but Kawhi on one leg still would've stomped them. Ironically the Raptors depth put them over the top. It was a beautifully constructed roster 1 through 10.