Shams: Jrue Holiday Traded to Bucks for Eric Bledsoe, George Hill, Three 1st Round Picks, 2 Future Draft Pick Swaps

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Re: Shams: Jrue Holiday Traded to Bucks for Eric Bledsoe, George Hill, Three 1st Round Picks, 2 Future Draft Pick Swaps 

Post#201 » by LivingLegend » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:13 am

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Badonkadonk wrote:Good lord, three 1sts and 2 swaps?

I like Jrue Holiday, but this is not the deal that puts them over the top for a 'chip, and they have nothing else left to trade.

Pelicans robbed them.


That's what I was thinking.....I love Jrue but I don't think he's the type of player that you literally throw every asset you have left at especially considering his injury history.

So you have Jrue, Middleton and Giannis. There's your big 3 better get it done now.
The myth of Jrue having injury history is a fallacy. He's been healthy for years.

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He's missed 109 games in the last 6 years and has only played more than 67 games 1 time in that span. You can basically pencil him in to miss 15-20 games per year
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Post#202 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:13 am

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If that happens, this becomes a hell of a trade for the Bucks. This will nullify any of the swaps and will reassure that the 1sts will just be in the 25-30 range. That isnt bad value if this happens. It becomes franchise crushing only if Giannis walks.

when you give up that many picks in so many drafts, the chances of things not going your way increase.

this has to lead to at least a finals appearance since it will be very difficult to add more pieces.


Honestly in my opinion all this needs to do is lead to Giannis signing the Super max. If that happens the draft picks values are pretty small and the swaps become irrelevant. Who wins this trade all depends on if Jrue and Giannis resign. If both do, the Bucks will end up not giving up much to get a really good player.
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Re: Shams: Jrue Holiday Traded to Bucks for Eric Bledsoe, George Hill, Three 1st Round Picks, 2 Future Draft Pick Swaps 

Post#203 » by Packbuckman » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:13 am

NinjaBro wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:Bucks fans now trashing Bledsoe after trying to defend him the last 2 years :lol: :lol: :lol:



They did the same with Brogdon :lol:


Who was defending Bledsoe? We all seen what he became once the playoffs started. He cost us that raptors series and I wanted him gone after that and I am surprised we got Holiday who’s such a big upgrade!! **** the 1st rd picks I guarantee they have been talking with Giannis through this all and he isn’t going anywhere and that makes it worth it.
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Re: Shams: Jrue Holiday Traded to Bucks for Eric Bledsoe, George Hill, Three 1st Round Picks, 2 Future Draft Pick Swaps 

Post#204 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:13 am

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LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:Bucks fans now trashing Bledsoe after trying to defend him the last 2 years :lol: :lol: :lol:



They did the same with Brogdon :lol:

tor n Derozan :lol:

Almost as if there are whole segments of fan bases who believe different things. Shocking.
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Post#205 » by wablty » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:13 am

The Bucks are swinging for the fences anyway. I'll give them that. I would assume it's implied they Giannis is re-upping and they've got an idea of what it will cost to re-up with Holiday.
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Post#206 » by celticfan42487 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:14 am

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Post#208 » by Pelon chingon » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:14 am

Jrue is cool and all but damn they overpaid IMO. N.O has hella picks now.
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Post#209 » by TylersLakers » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:15 am

RamonSessions7 wrote:I assume this came with a handshake Giannis extension. If not, yeeeeesh


That's the only way I make the deal if I'm the Bucks.
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Post#210 » by LAKESHOW » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:15 am

Whoever got the best player won the trade. And thats obvious.
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Post#211 » by lvckv » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:15 am

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That's what I was thinking.....I love Jrue but I don't think he's the type of player that you literally throw every asset you have left at especially considering his injury history.

So you have Jrue, Middleton and Giannis. There's your big 3 better get it done now.
The myth of Jrue having injury history is a fallacy. He's been healthy for years.

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He's missed 109 games in the last 6 years and has only played more than 67 games 1 time in that span. You can basically pencil him in to miss 15-20 games per year


In the regular season? Who cares. Why does anyone still think the regular season matters unless you're battling to make the playoffs...
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Post#212 » by PushDaRock » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:15 am

Don't think this deal would get done with the pick swaps without a commitment from Giannis.
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Post#213 » by TheNewEra » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:16 am

So Lonzo looking like a odd fit right about now.... how about coming back to LA but across the hall
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Post#214 » by NoZoLakers » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:16 am

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Lol the high water mark isn't a guy's norm. That's an idealized version of Jrue that hasn't shown up since.

cause pelicans havent been in playoff since? :roll:


Partly because Jrue is hella of a mediocre "star" in the regular season. Poor shooter and below league average efficiency scoring every year of his career.

Good player but not significantly better than Bledsoe, if at all.

doesn't take that much to improve on Bledsoe last 2 playoffs...they may miss Hill tho if DD doesn't improve
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Post#215 » by LivingLegend » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:16 am

lvckv wrote:
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ADMVP wrote:The myth of Jrue having injury history is a fallacy. He's been healthy for years.

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He's missed 109 games in the last 6 years and has only played more than 67 games 1 time in that span. You can basically pencil him in to miss 15-20 games per year


In the regular season? Who cares. Why does anyone still think the regular season matters unless you're battling to make the playoffs...


Because it means he's prone to getting banged up regardless if it's the RS or post season??
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Re: Shams: Jrue Holiday Traded to Bucks for Eric Bledsoe, George Hill, Three 1st Round Picks, 2 Future Draft Pick Swaps 

Post#216 » by celticfan42487 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:18 am

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If that happens, this becomes a hell of a trade for the Bucks. This will nullify any of the swaps and will reassure that the 1sts will just be in the 25-30 range. That isnt bad value if this happens. It becomes franchise crushing only if Giannis walks.


Yup, they only do this if they already know Greek Freak will sign once the trade is completed.

You can be 100% sure that Greek Freak was asked for his blessing on the deal.

That said it's also worth it for NO obviously because anytime you can bet on life getting in the way you take it.

Say if Giannas even gets hurt for one of those seasons and Jrue falls off the cliff and becomes essentially a Bledsoe in quality... then they just got a lottery pick.

Good trade for both teams if Greek Freak extends.
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Post#217 » by NoZoLakers » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:18 am

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Lakers LeBron wrote:The AD trade keeps looking better and better


Yeah it's called cheating

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Post#218 » by zshawn10 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:18 am

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Post#219 » by Young Stapler » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:19 am

Bucks clearly going all in to keep Giannis. I think he will stay.
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Post#220 » by djsunyc » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:19 am

even with this deal, bucks chip hopes still ultimately depend on giannis' half court game.

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