Joel Embiid: “We got rid of Jimmy, just to make sure he needed the ball in his hands”

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Post#201 » by Lou_23 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 10:39 am

JimmyPlopper wrote:Embiid has become one of my least liked players in the league. He puts up nice "impact stats" while his team loses in the playoffs. He is insecure, hence his jealousy of Simmons, and acting through the media shows how shallow and feeble minded he is. I can't wait for Simmons to humiliate. The main takeaway from all of this is that Embiid is a big baby, Rivers is incompetent, Morey is under the thumb of an owner who is personally an ****, know nothing about basketball, and was a personal friend and business partner of Jeffrey Epstein. I hope the Sixers get whats coming to them after all of this. God bless Hinkie.


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Post#202 » by Lou_23 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 10:41 am

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zimpy27 wrote:Sixers didn't get rid of Jimmy.

Jimmy left.

Uh...thats not what happened.


Ahhh that is exactly what happened. Embiid is a liar. Jimmy even made it very clear he left and not the other way around on JJ Redicks podcast last year. I've lost all respect for Embiid... he knows the real reason why Butler left but used it as leverage to pour more media and fan hate on Simmons.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/76ers/jimmy-butler-brett-brown-sixers-heat-playoffs-jj-redick-podcast

".....it seemed like Butler didn’t like what was said to him when discussions of him returning to Philly occured.

A main reason I didn’t go back was because somebody asked, ‘Can you control him?’ Like, ‘Can you control Jimmy? Because if you can control Jimmy, we would think about having him back.’ I was like, you don’t got to worry about it. S---, ain’t nobody f---ing control me. For one, I ain’t just out there doing no bulls---, but the fact that you’re trying to control a grown man, … nah, I’m cool. Because I don’t do anything that’s just drastically f---ing stupidly crazy. I do not do that. So don’t come at me with the, ‘let me try and control him.’ You good. Don’t even worry about it. … If that’s what y’all are worried about, then good luck to y’all.
Yeah, Jimmy is going to say "I'm in Miami because Sixers dont want me"

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Post#203 » by LakersLegacy » Fri Oct 1, 2021 10:59 am

Embid wants Jimmy. Ben wants a trade. Can Philly fix the mistake they made to keep Embid happy.

Losing Jimmy was really bad for the 76ers. He took the Heat to the Finals in 2020
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Post#204 » by LakersLegacy » Fri Oct 1, 2021 11:06 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Smart move was to keep Jimmy and trade Simmons. I said that at the time.

They probably win a Championship with those two.


Those 3. The 3rd being who ever they traded Simmons for
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Post#205 » by Johnny Bball » Fri Oct 1, 2021 11:17 am

GeorgeMarcus wrote:Oh man, I love this. It's a damn shame we didn't choose to build around the Embiid/Butler duo (which I actively campaigned for at the time :) )


Even Simmons/Butler would have worked. But these two guys can’t be together. That part I don’t believe you were actively on board for, right?

Mostly, I’m not sure when, someone will figure out Simmons best position is centre.…I’m just not sure Simmons will ever figure that out though or get anywhere that they figure it out.
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Post#206 » by aguiar95 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 11:33 am

This is a flat out LIE. Embiid trying to make excuses for that sorry Front Office. How in the hell does Horford mesh with Simmons?
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Post#207 » by Lou_23 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 11:41 am

aguiar95 wrote:This is a flat out LIE. Embiid trying to make excuses for that sorry Front Office. How in the hell does Horford mesh with Simmons?
Yes, they mesh, watch offensive rating without Embiid
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Post#208 » by zimpy27 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 11:59 am

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aguiar95 wrote:This is a flat out LIE. Embiid trying to make excuses for that sorry Front Office. How in the hell does Horford mesh with Simmons?
Yes, they mesh, watch offensive rating without Embiid


They got rid of Horford because he didn't mesh with Embiid. Maybe not the best example to be brought up when Embiid is trying to say team was built around Ben.
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Post#209 » by aguiar95 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 12:03 pm

Lou_23 wrote:
aguiar95 wrote:This is a flat out LIE. Embiid trying to make excuses for that sorry Front Office. How in the hell does Horford mesh with Simmons?
Yes, they mesh, watch offensive rating without Embiid


What does Horford provides that Joel don't?
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Post#210 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Oct 1, 2021 12:09 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Lou_23 wrote:
aguiar95 wrote:This is a flat out LIE. Embiid trying to make excuses for that sorry Front Office. How in the hell does Horford mesh with Simmons?
Yes, they mesh, watch offensive rating without Embiid


They got rid of Horford because he didn't mesh with Embiid. Maybe not the best example to be brought up when Embiid is trying to say team was built around Ben.
It's not like who they got rid of Horford (and Richardson) for didn't fit with Ben though, they both fit like a glove.
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Post#211 » by Karate Diop » Fri Oct 1, 2021 12:14 pm

Embiid is allowed to feel however he wants... But this did not help the Sixers current predicament :lol:

It seems like nobody is in control in Philly. There's no unifying voice or plan.
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Post#212 » by djsunyc » Fri Oct 1, 2021 12:15 pm

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durka wrote:Damn, the gloves just came off. Gotta respect that Joel actually goes out and says it instead of hiding behind sources in an article.

If the Sixers get the type of underwhelming return it looks like they're bound to get for Simmons and take a step back this year, I wouldn't be surprised if Embiid also demands out next offseason. It sounds like he's been holding onto some serious resentment about getting rid of Butler and filling his salary slot with Horford and he's now onto the 4th front office regime of his time in Philly. How many more shots should they get to build a team around the most dominant C in the league?


Seen a lot of posts with that sentiment, that embiid's candid statement is good..
Maybe for entertainment, but for the sixers locker room and even for him (in terms of protecting Simmons trade value) it's downright stupid to say that right now, I'd be pissed if I were a philly fan, just keep your mouth shut till he's gone

unless he knows there's zero chance of him coming back.
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Post#213 » by Pacewrs05 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 12:23 pm

RipPizzaGuy wrote:Yup I remember how clear of a mistake this was at the time. Everyone hyping Simmons potential rather than accepting that Butler was the vastly superior player and increased that teams ceiling.

Imagine if they had instead resigned Butler and traded Simmons even for say Jrue Holiday.

Holiday - Curry - Butler - Tobias - Embid

This team would have had a really good chance at winning it all last year.


"Even for Say Jrue Holiday" :banghead: Jrue might not get the same attention or notoriety of a Ben Simmons but a much better fit on most teams and player and has never fussed about anything..
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Post#214 » by Simmons25 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 12:25 pm

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HeartBreakKid wrote:Uh...thats not what happened.


Ahhh that is exactly what happened. Embiid is a liar. Jimmy even made it very clear he left and not the other way around on JJ Redicks podcast last year. I've lost all respect for Embiid... he knows the real reason why Butler left but used it as leverage to pour more media and fan hate on Simmons.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/76ers/jimmy-butler-brett-brown-sixers-heat-playoffs-jj-redick-podcast

".....it seemed like Butler didn’t like what was said to him when discussions of him returning to Philly occured.

A main reason I didn’t go back was because somebody asked, ‘Can you control him?’ Like, ‘Can you control Jimmy? Because if you can control Jimmy, we would think about having him back.’ I was like, you don’t got to worry about it. S---, ain’t nobody f---ing control me. For one, I ain’t just out there doing no bulls---, but the fact that you’re trying to control a grown man, … nah, I’m cool. Because I don’t do anything that’s just drastically f---ing stupidly crazy. I do not do that. So don’t come at me with the, ‘let me try and control him.’ You good. Don’t even worry about it. … If that’s what y’all are worried about, then good luck to y’all.
Yeah, Jimmy is going to say "I'm in Miami because Sixers dont want me"

Poor coward Simmons


So you think Jimmy Butler made up an elaborate story like this... just so he didn't feel embarrassed about the Sixers not wanting him? That's what you actually believe? :lol: :lol:


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Post#215 » by Pacewrs05 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 12:30 pm

Morey, should get the best available player now and move on. The 76ers screwed this up. Over valuing Simmons in the first place. A third option guy, even if you run the offense through him is a nice piece but not a corner stone piece. Get a PG that can run the offense and space the floor and they will be just fine. You're not going to hit a wheat Morey thinks is Jrue Holiday value with Simmons. The fact they gave him a contract that is super max value is not the leagues fault.Simmons will never play with there 76'ers and fining him when he sits out is more punitive than helpful in filling out the roster.
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Post#216 » by hauntedcomputer » Fri Oct 1, 2021 1:20 pm

Hinkie died for our sins.
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Re: Joel Embiid: “We got rid of Jimmy, just to make sure he needed the ball in his hands” 

Post#217 » by AirP. » Fri Oct 1, 2021 1:32 pm

Simmons25 wrote:
Lou_23 wrote:
Simmons25 wrote:
Ahhh that is exactly what happened. Embiid is a liar. Jimmy even made it very clear he left and not the other way around on JJ Redicks podcast last year. I've lost all respect for Embiid... he knows the real reason why Butler left but used it as leverage to pour more media and fan hate on Simmons.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/76ers/jimmy-butler-brett-brown-sixers-heat-playoffs-jj-redick-podcast

".....it seemed like Butler didn’t like what was said to him when discussions of him returning to Philly occured.

A main reason I didn’t go back was because somebody asked, ‘Can you control him?’ Like, ‘Can you control Jimmy? Because if you can control Jimmy, we would think about having him back.’ I was like, you don’t got to worry about it. S---, ain’t nobody f---ing control me. For one, I ain’t just out there doing no bulls---, but the fact that you’re trying to control a grown man, … nah, I’m cool. Because I don’t do anything that’s just drastically f---ing stupidly crazy. I do not do that. So don’t come at me with the, ‘let me try and control him.’ You good. Don’t even worry about it. … If that’s what y’all are worried about, then good luck to y’all.
Yeah, Jimmy is going to say "I'm in Miami because Sixers dont want me"

Poor coward Simmons


So you think Jimmy Butler made up an elaborate story like this... just so he didn't feel embarrassed about the Sixers not wanting him? That's what you actually believe? :lol: :lol:

More then likely that was the last straw for Butler, so when he heard that he was 100% out.

On the 76ers wanting him is actually complicated, when they traded for him, B.Brown utilized him like a high level roleplayer and with that role, Butler was nowhere near worth a contract that Butler would want, so I believe the 76ers pivoted early on to find another scorer to pair with Simmons and Embiid, that being T.Harris. Only when Butler's role somewhat changed in the playoffs do I think the 76ers reconsider Butler's value to the team but by that time it was nearly too late, coupled with that statement which pissed Butler off, he was 100% out. This type of scenario would also address the conflicting reports on if the 76ers were willing to to give Butler the max.

The root of the issue was trying to make Embiid and Simmons work since both were highly talented and very young instead of building the best team they could which meant picking one of the younger players and building around their talents.
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Re: Joel Embiid: “We got rid of Jimmy, just to make sure he needed the ball in his hands” 

Post#218 » by seren » Fri Oct 1, 2021 1:44 pm

This whole thing proves "the process" was a bust.
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Post#219 » by TheAlchemist » Fri Oct 1, 2021 2:40 pm

Super valid point.
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Post#220 » by CobraCommander » Fri Oct 1, 2021 3:10 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Jimmy tells you candidly why he left.. from his own mouth..




The fact that people just think Embiid is spitting truth may be part of the reason Simmons wants to get out of there.



Your video proves Embiid is telling the truth IMO. Jimmy wanted ball more and Ben can’t (or doesn’t want to) be effective off the ball so they maxed Ben and Let JIMMY roll.

Two things can be true....
it’s about money -yes true

But also true : they can’t pay Jimmy max and not use him to his strengths as a ball handler if they got a whiny little Ben that wants to be lebron but won’t shoot.


I’m happy Embiid stepping up and leading his crew
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