Enes Kanter shoes in tonight’s game had LeBron bowing to China.

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Post#201 » by Haldi » Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:08 pm

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dockingsched wrote:So does Kanter intend to retire from the NBA cause of their on going business in China or with Nike or does he draw the line at attacking others?


I don't want to attack Kanter too much, because it is admirable to speak out against China the way he has, and he's been the most vocal pro-vaccine NBA player, as far as I know...but he's kind of doing it the easy way here. It's not even that he's not retiring from the NBA, you can still be part of a system and speak out against it, but he's being especially selective here. Tatum has a multi-year deal with Jordan (so same thing), but I suspect he won't have anything to say about that.


Again, like its been said, theres a reason Lebron is being singled out. You don’t call someone ignorant when you’re the ignorant one. Its pretty simple and good for Kanter!!
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Post#202 » by KnicksGadfly » Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:10 pm

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dcstanley wrote:Kanter is the hypocrite that he accuses Lebron of being. Kanter doesn't stand for human rights abuses committed by Western allies, he actively supports an apartheid state with over 50 years of occupation abuses. This is all theater and a possible ploy for relevancy. He knows he can score brownie points from right-wingers by attacking Lebron. You would think Lebron is the only person in history that has ever profited off the world's second largest economy with the way people single him out.


All this. Just theater.

Folks praising Kanter's "look at me" ploys are the same ones calling Lebron an egomaniac.

Not sure anyone likes the degree to which corporations are beholden to China, but to act as if lebron is the sole or even the primary benefactor of it is silly.


Nope, but he’s the face of the brand, and he actively supported the CCP side when he could have just said “no comment.” Ironically, he probably didn’t know shat about what was going on in China when he made that comment, or I hope he didn’t.
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Post#203 » by dockingsched » Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:11 pm

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dockingsched wrote:People actually think Kanter is being brave? He’s not risking a single thing. This is so confusing.


kanter is literally banned from his homeland because he spoke out against erdogen but tell us more how kanter has sacrificed nothing

Yeah thas was the one most uneducated dumbest comment in the thread for sure.


So tell me what single thing he’s actually risking by going after Lebron?

Just cause Kanter’s done and risked all these other things doesn’t mean going after Lebron is brave.

People want to keep calling him brave for going after Lebron but when asked why it’s brave, all they talk about is these other things he’s done and don’t explain why going after Lebron is brave.

Again it’s confusing why people think it’s brave of Kanter to go at Lebron.
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Post#204 » by dockingsched » Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:18 pm

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dockingsched wrote:People actually think Kanter is being brave? He’s not risking a single thing. This is so confusing.


kanter is literally banned from his homeland because he spoke out against erdogen but tell us more how kanter has sacrificed nothing

When it comes to Lebron, he sacrificed and risked nothing, yet people are calling him from for going after Lebron. Confusing.
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Post#205 » by TheProdigy » Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:40 pm

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NyKnicks1714 wrote:I respect Kanter for speaking out against China, but so weird that he's singling out LeBron. He has teammates with Nike deals.
It is pretty clear why. LeBron was the one that stood up for China during the Morey situation and he wants to come off as a social justice warrior. Of course that is only when it doesn't impact his pocket book.

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There is nothing wrong with that. You can choose which wars you want to fight. Why should Lebron care about China if he doesn't want to? It is not his country.

You make it sound like Lebron chose not to get involved, but that's not true. Lebron "chose to fight this war" when he took the side of China and called Morey ignorant on the subject. He didn't have to do that, but he did. He wouldn't be catching the criticism he's receiving now if he hadn't inserted himself into the conversation to begin with.
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Post#206 » by kg01 » Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:42 pm

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dcstanley wrote:Kanter is the hypocrite that he accuses Lebron of being. Kanter doesn't stand for human rights abuses committed by Western allies, he actively supports an apartheid state with over 50 years of occupation abuses. This is all theater and a possible ploy for relevancy. He knows he can score brownie points from right-wingers by attacking Lebron. You would think Lebron is the only person in history that has ever profited off the world's second largest economy with the way people single him out.


All this. Just theater.

Folks praising Kanter's "look at me" ploys are the same ones calling Lebron an egomaniac.

Not sure anyone likes the degree to which corporations are beholden to China, but to act as if lebron is the sole or even the primary benefactor of it is silly.


Nope, but he’s the face of the brand, and he actively supported the CCP side when he could have just said “no comment.” Ironically, he probably didn’t know shat about what was going on in China when he made that comment, or I hope he didn’t.


Lebron isn't the face of this issue. The "China problem" is bigger than him. Bigger than Nike, even.

These acts by Kanter are for show. Low-hanging fruit.
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Post#207 » by LAL1947 » Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:44 pm

dockingsched wrote:
LesGrossman wrote:
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kanter is literally banned from his homeland because he spoke out against erdogen but tell us more how kanter has sacrificed nothing

Yeah thas was the one most uneducated dumbest comment in the thread for sure.


So tell me what single thing he’s actually risking by going after Lebron?

Just cause Kanter’s done and risked all these other things doesn’t mean going after Lebron is brave.

People want to keep calling him brave for going after Lebron but when asked why it’s brave, all they talk about is these other things he’s done and don’t explain why going after Lebron is brave.

Again it’s confusing why people think it’s brave of Kanter to go at Lebron.

Well, Kanter is not simply going after Lebron for being one of China's many global "faces"... but he's using Lebron's hypocrisy to draw attention to the whole snake, i.e., China government and the money/aid they throw at countries, organizations (like the UN, WHO, World Bank, etc), news media, other corporations, celebrities and people to buy a favorable image and support. Or did you miss the images of Xi Jinping and the bags of money in addition to the "I am informed about the situation" slogan on his shoes?

Instead of asking why it is brave for Kanter to be doing what he is doing, shouldn't you be asking yourself whether the causes Kanter is standing up for are worthwhile ones or not... and why Lebron chose to make the comments he did about Morey and others not being "educated enough about the situation"?

Anyway, here's a nice tweet to show you that Kanter goes about drawing attention to China in other creative ways too.

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And it's not the first time he's used shoes to make statements about China's wrong-doings.

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Post#208 » by dockingsched » Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:55 pm

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LesGrossman wrote:Yeah thas was the one most uneducated dumbest comment in the thread for sure.


So tell me what single thing he’s actually risking by going after Lebron?

Just cause Kanter’s done and risked all these other things doesn’t mean going after Lebron is brave.

People want to keep calling him brave for going after Lebron but when asked why it’s brave, all they talk about is these other things he’s done and don’t explain why going after Lebron is brave.

Again it’s confusing why people think it’s brave of Kanter to go at Lebron.

Well,.


You talk about it:

- how smart it is to go after Lebron
- how effective it might be to go after Lebron
- how risky/brave it is to go after China
- the previous actions Kanter has done before going after Lebron that are considered brave/risky

And all of this is irrelevant to be questioning why people think it’s brave to go after Lebron. Not really sure why you replied to me.
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Post#209 » by KrAzY3 » Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:57 pm

Here's what is so messed up about this. LeBron could have been the guy doing this and imagine how huge it would have been. Imagine all the good it could have done. But instead he bowed to China, over money? The guy is already so rich he and 100 sequential clones could live a life of luxury. He didn't need more money. The NBA didn't need more money. He was in a position of power to do the right thing.

And he bowed... I respect Kanter for doing what needed to be done, it is unfortunate that he doesn't have the voice LeBron does but he's right to call him out. Instead of LeBron being the guy leading the charge, LeBron actually went to the dark side and in doing so backed the CCP.
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Post#210 » by Clay Davis » Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:01 pm

Mickey8 wrote:USA wrecked all those countries, by bombing, they overthrown different regimes and they installed their own puppets to rule those countries , their proxies, they literally occupied Iraq and Afghanistan , they had forces in Syria, they turned Libya into the world capital of slave trading, the USA military is present in the entire Middle East region. Please don't start with Tibet, China have historic ties with Tibet , Chinese people live and have lived in that region too. What are those five countries that China have wrecked in the last 30 years, please show me freaking example. Something that was comparable to USA and NATO deeds in the last 30 years???
China has been supporting the brutal junta in Myanmar that has committed a genocide of the Rohingya. The Chinese government itself controls the bodies of its civilians and puts its citizens in concentration camps. Furthermore the Chinese government lionizes a leader who had killed tens of millions of the citizens that they claim to be helping.

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Post#211 » by art_tatum » Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:26 pm

Those shoes are kinda lying tho even if i hate the prc. The organ harvesting is only from those who passed, but why tf are they in mandatory re-education camps (jail) anyways.
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Post#212 » by bebopdeluxe » Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:27 pm

Mickey8 wrote:
MambaVenom24 wrote:I absolutely despise Enes Kanter the basketball player, he is a below average nba player by all standards, sometimes thuggish behaviour on the court, if there is a melee he is always there to instigate it, I am in no way a fan he is a role player.

That being said I have to say kudos to him for his approach and the way he singled out one of the biggest hypocrites to ever lace them up --> also he should have done it when the whole morey lebron saga began, but good for him for sticking it to the social justice warrior wannabe. **** china and their supporters ...

He already made million of dollars, his career is going rapidly down to the toilet, the only way he can draw some attention to himself is to act like se is some kind of activist who "cares" about injustice in China, while the country in which he lives is committing crimes around the world on the daily basis, he's just a stooge for the military industrial complex , he's not brave , he's useful for FOX NEWS, CNN , who are seeking hard for another armed conflict with the foreign country.


Is this really your take here? That Kanter is doing this for “attention”?

How the F does that make ANY sense? Huh?

Yeah - take on China, Nike and LeBron in one fell swoop. I am sure that will GUARANTEE that Kanter gets a great new contract from a team whose merchandise and games will be INSTANTLY banned from China. I can just see the line of GM’s who CAN’T WAIT to give Kanter a big new deal!

Do some of you who post stuff like this even THINK about what you are saying before you say it?

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Post#213 » by MotownMadness » Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:27 pm

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Post#214 » by LAL1947 » Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:43 pm

art_tatum wrote:Those shoes are kinda lying tho even if i hate the prc. The organ harvesting is only from those who passed

This is not true.

"U.N. rights experts said Monday they had "credible information" that detainees from minority communities in China may be being subjected to forced organ harvesting, a claim fiercely rejected by Beijing." (Link)

"According to the China Tribunal, a UK-based independent court set up to investigate the practice of forced organ harvesting in China, has concluded that around 1.5 million jailed people have been targeted and killed for their organs, mostly over the last two decades." (Link)

"In June earlier this year, the United Nations Human Rights Commission (UNHRC) said that its human rights experts were “extremely alarmed” by reports of “alleged ‘organ harvesting’ targeting minorities, including Uyghurs, in detention in China." (Link)

"Officials in Henan Province, central China, have published a schedule of fees and availability for different “donated" organs. The Henan Province announcement raises major concern in light of mounting evidence that rather than willing organ donors, the vast majority of organ transplants conducted in China come from murdered prisoners jailed for their religious faith or political activities."
(Link)

"Human rights groups in China claim that the government is operating an organ-trafficking network that has harvested organs from 100,000 dissidents and political prisoners every year." (Link)

"Reports on systematic organ harvesting from Falun Gong prisoners first emerged in 2006, though the practice started at least six years earlier." (Link)
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Post#215 » by NatiboyB » Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:51 pm

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NatiboyB wrote:Kick this clown kanter out of the nba already…And whoever disagrees with Lebrons stance and tries to bring up China just be honest. Look at yourself in the mirror and admit the only issue you have is that you have an issue with him standing up for the rights of black Americans.

You can’t tell a person what social issues they need to stand up for especially when it’s an issue that has impacted a person and their family. Kanter is out of line and basically using lebrons name for clout which is cowardly for another professional athlete.


Uh no. Lebron should stand for black athletes. And Asians should stand for them too. I know that there are a significant number who do, and a significant number who don’t. And I’m glad that black people didn’t forget Asian people during the Civil Rights movement. And that MLK was outspoken on Vietnam. You may want everyone criticizing Lebron to be a racist, but they’re not. He’s just wrong here.

Funny thing was, he brought it on himself. He should have just not said anything when the China issue was brought up, but he actively supported the CCP narrative, and at that point, he already waded into the conflict. When I see what Serena and other athletes worldwide have done for Peng Shuai, it makes me realize Lebron doesn’t care enough. That’s not to put down his good work — he does a ton, but he’s done damage too.



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Post#216 » by lakerz12 » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:00 pm

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So tell me what single thing he’s actually risking by going after Lebron?

Just cause Kanter’s done and risked all these other things doesn’t mean going after Lebron is brave.

People want to keep calling him brave for going after Lebron but when asked why it’s brave, all they talk about is these other things he’s done and don’t explain why going after Lebron is brave.

Again it’s confusing why people think it’s brave of Kanter to go at Lebron.

Well,.


You talk about it:

- how smart it is to go after Lebron
- how effective it might be to go after Lebron
- how risky/brave it is to go after China
- the previous actions Kanter has done before going after Lebron that are considered brave/risky

And all of this is irrelevant to be questioning why people think it’s brave to go after Lebron. Not really sure why you replied to me.


Oh my gosh dude you are so hung up on the “bravery” aspect.

That is a straw man. This is not about whether Kanter is brave or not. That’s a side discussion, if anything.

Obviously you don’t want to talk about the real issue which is who is correct about their stance on China.

Who is willing to speak the truth about what is going on in China.

Who is NOT willing to speak the truth because of financial interests.

Who positions themselves as a social justice warrior on many issues but turns a blind eye to travesties where they do business.

These are the real topics^

Not how Brave or not brave Kanter is…
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Post#217 » by Quattro » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:01 pm

Lebron should retaliate and make a Kanter shoe. Maybe a picture of himself dunking over a 6”10’ pylon wearing a Celtics jersey.
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Post#218 » by G35 » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:01 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:I respect Kanter for speaking out against China, but so weird that he's singling out LeBron. He has teammates with Nike deals.


- why did Kaepernick start kneeling during the anthem...for attention
- why is their more social justice messaging in Marvel movies...higher attention
- why does mainstream media keep bringing up Trump...because it gets the clicks

I have been hearing for the last four years that to bring about social change you have to get attention and you get attention by going after high profile situations. That has been the progressive agenda is to go after certain sacred cows which will bring the spotlight to their causes.

Its about time Lebron got involved and started paying attention to what is going on......
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Post#219 » by PD28 » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:05 pm

Those shoes are fire!
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Post#220 » by Quattro » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:05 pm

All these people going after Lebron… what did the NBA do? Nothing. Just like governments do nothing in the face of human rights abuses, taking foreigners hostage and torturing them when they don’t like something their country did, cybercrime and espionage, etc etc.

The WTA is the first sports organization that has said “F the money” and is standing up to their crap. Everyone else is too concerned with keeping the money flowing.

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