Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex

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Did Lebron intentionally hit Stewart?

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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#201 » by Mogolo » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:30 am

The level of simping and damage control between here and the media is crazy... lol if roles were reversed and stew hit bron the simps and media would be calling for Stew to be banned from the nba lol
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Post#202 » by Hoop Heavy » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:30 am

It's too bad.

It feels like Lebron has fallen off a cliff in the last year or so.

What I saw is that Lebron was getting moved by a younger stronger hungrier guy ... and he struck that man on purpose in an act of extreme - but highly inappropriate - frustration. My gut tells me that from his first reaction after he wasn't aiming at his forehead, but his upper chest. Stewart was somewhat diagonal from Davis's pressure on the other side ... so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Still even two years ago, he wasn't getting outmuscled/outworked like that. He seems tired and easily frustrated ... unless things change fast ... he'll probably never win another title.

For who he is, the dawning of that possibility must be very difficult to bare.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#203 » by whitehops » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:30 am

SlovenianDragon wrote:Media and people are biased when there is really no need to be. No reason for fake narratives.

My favorite player is Booker. If he did this I would be pissed. I would want him suspended. Just because hes my favorite player... plays on my favorite team... doesnt give him a pass to me. In fact I would be mad that he hurt another player hurt how i and others view him and how people view the suns.

Laker and LeBron fans should be upset with him.


love your post. i've been a big lebron fan for his entire career, and to me i really hope the nba gives lebron a punishment that shows they acknowledge that it was an intentional hostile act.

my *hope* is a five game suspension, which lines up with past incidents of intentional blows to the head. thinly disguising said blow as a basketball act shouldn't be tolerated in the slightest.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#204 » by Tracymcgoaty » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:32 am

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eminence wrote:Both deserve suspensions from what I've seen of it. I never have any idea what the proper number games is.


bynum got five games for this:


and metta world peace got seven games for this:


take from those that what you will, though those plays were a long time ago.


Both much worse than Lebrons in my opinion. Bynum **** clotheslined him mid air. And Ron basically Ong Bak'd Harden.

1-2 games suspension i think.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#205 » by Tracymcgoaty » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:34 am

Mogolo wrote:The level of simping and damage control between here and the media is crazy... lol if roles were reversed and stew hit bron the simps and media would be calling for Stew to be banned from the nba lol


Take a break. Seriously.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#206 » by whitehops » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:35 am

Michael Jackson wrote:LeBron deserves a suspension for being careless but those two examples are not the same class. Those are in the class with Kermit and Rudy. And by class I mean classless. LeBron reacted poorly to physical play, do not think he had intent to hurt. Still he was wrong but not like those plays.


lebron definitely hid his intention better, but what do you think he was trying to do when punching someone in the face?
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Post#207 » by benson13 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:37 am

Isaiah Stewart made an overly aggressive boxout out LeBron when he's supposed to be trying to fight DJ for the rebound. LeBron took exception and tried to detangle himself. It wasn't a basketball move, but it wasn't excessive, and there was clearly not intention to cause such a nasty cut.

Westbrook was hilarious. He's the best in the NBA at getting held back with his fists up.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#208 » by eyeatoma » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:37 am

Stewart obviously snapped and it's not okay, but I don't blame him for going after LeBron. That was a bitch moved, and if you punch someone in the face you better be prepared for the repercussions. LeBron should be happy that this happened on the court or else he would be in the ER right now. Stewart would have destroyed him. LeBron tries this stuff every year. Last year it was with him pushing Embiid when he was midair, when he was about to yam on him. Even though people think he's the goat, he's a dirty player, who has done this enough that people now know that a lot of it is intentional.

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Post#209 » by Onlytimewilltel » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:39 am

yoyoboy wrote:Wow, people here are ridiculous. This kind of stuff makes certain people come out in droves to create their own narratives in order to further fuel their own hatred. LeBron very clearly was annoyed with being grabbed and tried to hit Stewart's arm off him hard (which he shouldn't have done) but accidentally hit him the face. You actually think he was deliberately trying to punch Stewart in the face? When have you ever seen LeBron legitimately try to get into a fight? Way too image-focused and definitely wouldn't want to piss off someone that big, which something like that would be guaranteed to do.

Even without the intent to hit him in the face, the result happened, and so LeBron should be suspended a game. But what Stewart did is clearly worse. Absolutely unhinged rage that caused him to have to be restrained like 10 different times, and then he ran into the tunnel to try to beat the hell out of LeBron on the other end, all the while putting teammates and staff members at risk in his efforts. That kind of hotheadedness is absolutely insane and makes him a real on-court danger. I haven't seen a dude lose his cool that much since Malice at the Palace. If his teammates (way to go Cade) staff members didn't do the job they did, Stewart legitimately might have done something to cost himself his career.



Stop being so rational dude. Lol that’s not liked around here. Lebron was clearly planning this move out for 10 minutes before swinging at him!!

And you’re right about the rage part I don’t think anyone can find this much rage since the malice in the plaice, if you do post a video so we can see I sure can’t remember this much rage since then.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#210 » by Nate505 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:40 am

They both should get a game or two. Stewart for acting like a psychopath (I get it, but still, you can't do the "I'm good, I'm good, let me go and then rush the player" thing), and Lebron for a really dirty hit.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#211 » by Michael Jackson » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:43 am

whitehops wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:LeBron deserves a suspension for being careless but those two examples are not the same class. Those are in the class with Kermit and Rudy. And by class I mean classless. LeBron reacted poorly to physical play, do not think he had intent to hurt. Still he was wrong but not like those plays.


lebron definitely hid his intention better, but what do you think he was trying to do when punching someone in the face?



They were tangled up and fighting each other. Artest threw and elbow on a dead ball and Bynum knocked JJ out of the air. Both way different than what LeBron did. What LeBron did was absolutely wrong mind you but not the same class as both of those.
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Post#212 » by Hsker4Life » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:43 am

LeBron fanboys are worse than Jokic fanboys. Jeeeeesh.
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Post#213 » by Nate505 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:44 am

AceMcbanon wrote:He didn't mentally lose it he did what any real man would do after being cheap shotted. Apparently we are all suppose to be **** now?


It is kind of funny. He gets punched in the face, loses it, and gets a bunch of criticism for it (for the record, I thought he was over the top with his actions).

Russ gets popcorn thrown on him by a fan, loses it, and it's "hey man, you can't let anyone disrespect you man, you go throw popcorn at someone on the street and they'll **** you up man, Russ was totally right man."
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#214 » by fanofthegreats » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:45 am

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Watch the video from above, Lebron intentionally hit him in the face, it was clear as day. Trying to create your own narrative isn't going to change that.

I watched it before I made the post. And it's absolutely clear as day when he throws his fist backwards he's not even looking at Stewart and is likely trying to hit that arm pushing him. If you think LeBron was actually trying to punch Stewart in the face MMA style and then start a fight just for pushing him, I feel like you're either not a very bright individual or too far gone in terms of hate bias, and that you haven't seem to pay attention to LeBron's career at all. The fact that you think that's the more reasonable possibility than trying to hit the hand away that was pushing him is hilarious.


He is looking directly at him as his fist makes contact. It you funny you are insulting others, when the only people that cannot see the truth are Lebron stans like you.


Wow. What a clown take. “LeBron stan” for having a rationale take?
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#215 » by fanofthegreats » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:48 am

eyeatoma wrote:Stewart obviously snapped and it's not okay, but I don't blame him for going after LeBron. That was a bitch moved, and if you punch someone in the face you better be prepared for the repercussions. LeBron should be happy that this happened on the court or else he would be in the ER right now. Stewart would have destroyed him. LeBron tries this stuff every year. Last year it was with him pushing Embiid when he was midair, when he was about to yam on him. Even though people think he's the goat, he's a dirty player, who has done this enough that people now know that a lot of it is intentional.



Stewart isn’t destroying anyone. LeBron is fully capable of defending himself from that lunatic.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#216 » by Capn'O » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:49 am

yoyoboy wrote:Wow, people here are ridiculous. This kind of stuff makes certain people come out in droves to create their own narratives in order to further fuel their own hatred. LeBron very clearly was annoyed with being grabbed and tried to hit Stewart's arm off him hard (which he shouldn't have done) but accidentally hit him the face. You actually think he was deliberately trying to punch Stewart in the face? When have you ever seen LeBron legitimately try to get into a fight? Way too image-focused and definitely wouldn't want to piss off someone that big, which something like that would be guaranteed to do.

Even without the intent to hit him in the face, the result happened, and so LeBron should be suspended a game. But what Stewart did is clearly worse. Absolutely unhinged rage that caused him to have to be restrained like 10 different times, and then he ran into the tunnel to try to beat the hell out of LeBron on the other end, all the while putting teammates and staff members at risk in his efforts. That kind of hotheadedness is absolutely insane and makes him a real on-court danger. I haven't seen a dude lose his cool that much since Malice at the Palace. If his teammates (way to go Cade) staff members didn't do the job they did, Stewart legitimately might have done something to cost himself his career.


I would go a step further and say that he kinda aimlessly swung to get detangled but he wasn't trying to hurt him.

I don't think Stewart was gonna go ham until he realized his face was bloodied. Then he just freaked out. He didn't seem that hurt - got up pretty easy.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#217 » by meekrab » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:50 am

Whether he's suspended or not, I think it's safe to say LeBron isn't suiting up to play the Pistons again this year.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#218 » by SlovenianDragon » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:53 am

fanofthegreats wrote:
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yoyoboy wrote:I watched it before I made the post. And it's absolutely clear as day when he throws his fist backwards he's not even looking at Stewart and is likely trying to hit that arm pushing him. If you think LeBron was actually trying to punch Stewart in the face MMA style and then start a fight just for pushing him, I feel like you're either not a very bright individual or too far gone in terms of hate bias, and that you haven't seem to pay attention to LeBron's career at all. The fact that you think that's the more reasonable possibility than trying to hit the hand away that was pushing him is hilarious.


He is looking directly at him as his fist makes contact. It you funny you are insulting others, when the only people that cannot see the truth are Lebron stans like you.


Wow. What a clown take. “LeBron stan” for having a rationale take?


I dont really care about ur internal arguments but just saw this, "The fact that you think that's the more reasonable possibility than trying to hit the hand away that was pushing him is hilarious."

When you want to push some1 away or push an arm away you use an open hand not a closed fist. Its just naturally what we do its whats easier.

His fist was closed. He did wind up. He did look at him. He did hit him in the face. He did draw blood.

You do not push with a closed fist. That is meant to do harm.
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Post#219 » by DaFan334 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:53 am

meekrab wrote:Whether he's suspended or not, I think it's safe to say LeBron isn't suiting up to play the Pistons again this year.


Next week... League might keep them both out.
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Post#220 » by packforfreedom » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:56 am

Mogolo wrote:The level of simping and damage control between here and the media is crazy... lol if roles were reversed and stew hit bron the simps and media would be calling for Stew to be banned from the nba lol


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