[HAYNES] Nets and Lakers actively talking Russ/Kyrie trade…

[S.W.A.N]

The Lakers aren’t in this to bid against themselves. No other team is giving the Nets a first, much less take that extra year of Joe Harris that it’s obviously a priority for Nets FO to get rid of or they wouldn’t be pushing it.

But what is the Nets leverage here? Use Kyrie as salary ballast in the KD deal? So he gets sent to another team that is incentivized to take him and immediately works a buy out with him because they don’t want him around their young kids? So he signs with the Lakers for the vet minimum and the Lakers save both picks? Lakers say, sign me up for that scenario.

At least if you move him directly to the Lakers you get that pick and 2023 cap space. That’s a good deal for the Nets. Think you can do better? Good luck.

See can be said for the Lakers who is giving them anything for Russ? I get your side of it but Nets get the capspace just sitting Kyrie this year too which is likely what may happen with Russ on the Nets... It is literally LA's only bailout. The Nets can just sit or potentially someone else might trade them something for a year rental on Kyrie. No one is trading for Russ. Nets have the pole position in this

No it’s not. Please Nets, send him somewhere as salary ballast so he gets bought out. Lakers would love to save the picks and sign him for the vet minimum.

Quit bluffing.

Lakers desperately want to move Westbrook before season starts. And they absolutely love the idea of getting Kyrie in a trade, there is zero other trade options available for Westbrook. Two picks is the cost of trading your headcase for a more talented headcase.

[Ball so hard]

This is precisely why most fans do a terrible job of assessing value. Like some have already mentioned, Kyrie is a sunk cost to the Nets and therefore receiving anything of value for him in a trade should be considered a win. Dumping salary is a win for obvious reasons. Teams usually have to attach an asset in order to dump a toxic contract. Also receiving any picks (even a 2nd round pick) should be considered a win. Some of y’all are thinking about this all wrong. Why should the Nets even care if they make the Lakers better. Your premise is flawed in assuming that such a trade would achieve a zero sum result for the Nets. The last team that tried to capitalize on the Lakers perceived desperation requested a draft pick for an equally useless player; said player was bought out a few months later.

Kyrie for Westbrook and a 1st round pick is an absolute terrible deal for the Nets and a steal for the Lakers. The Nets would be paying 22 million dollars more (luxury tax included) just to take on Westbrook contract & perhaps a 1st round pick that wouldn't be in the lottery. Executives/GM's get fired for less.

Perhaps the Nets including Harris makes it less terrible but he was statistically the best 3pt shooter in the league the year before he got hurt. His value shouldn't be that low.

That’s not the rumored trade though. Such a trade is probably not even legal from a salary cap standpoint. A salary dump from the Nets side has to be involved.

[levon]

Some of you need a basic economics lesson. Kyrie's trade value isn't predicated on talent. It's predicated on demand.

[mademan]

See can be said for the Lakers who is giving them anything for Russ? I get your side of it but Nets get the capspace just sitting Kyrie this year too which is likely what may happen with Russ on the Nets... It is literally LA's only bailout. The Nets can just sit or potentially someone else might trade them something for a year rental on Kyrie. No one is trading for Russ. Nets have the pole position in this

No it’s not. Please Nets, send him somewhere as salary ballast so he gets bought out. Lakers would love to save the picks and sign him for the vet minimum.

Quit bluffing.

Lakers desperately want to move Westbrook before season starts. And they absolutely love the idea of getting Kyrie in a trade, there is zero other trade options available for Westbrook. Two picks is the cost of trading your headcase for a more talented headcase.

WB isnt a headcase. He's just not good

[John Murdoch]

I feel like thats the deal. Id prefer to have seth and keep talen but i can see Nets wanting out of Joe

[CallMeKahn]

No it’s not. Please Nets, send him somewhere as salary ballast so he gets bought out. Lakers would love to save the picks and sign him for the vet minimum.

Quit bluffing.

Lakers desperately want to move Westbrook before season starts. And they absolutely love the idea of getting Kyrie in a trade, there is zero other trade options available for Westbrook. Two picks is the cost of trading your headcase for a more talented headcase.

WB isnt a headcase. He's just not good[/quote]

This is correct.

[chrbal]

See can be said for the Lakers who is giving them anything for Russ? I get your side of it but Nets get the capspace just sitting Kyrie this year too which is likely what may happen with Russ on the Nets... It is literally LA's only bailout. The Nets can just sit or potentially someone else might trade them something for a year rental on Kyrie. No one is trading for Russ. Nets have the pole position in this

No it’s not. Please Nets, send him somewhere as salary ballast so he gets bought out. Lakers would love to save the picks and sign him for the vet minimum.

You get why posts like these are funny, right?

[wade44]

Would be wild if they can get Kyrie for Westbrick, Horton hears a who and a couple late first rounders

[MoMan24]

Nets better be getting like 3 picks for this trash ughhh I'm gonna be sick

Why would they even get a pick? I'm not trolling you. Kyrie is a headcase and has one year left on his deal. The only place he wants to go is the only team willing to take him. Joe Harris has 2 years left at almost 40 Million and is coming off major injury. Westbrook massive 47 million expiring for Kyrie and Harris is a good deal for the Nets given their situation. If they get a pick you should be jumping over the moon.

[dribble1614]

westbrook is a horrid shooter and decision maker but an expiring contract this upcoming season and they can get a FRP and more out of it so it makes sense. lebron continues to show he is weak and will never be the goat constantly trying to pile up big 3’s and superteams. kyrie is a little overrated though and lots of other west teams could still easily beat them.

[jigga_man]

This is precisely why most fans do a terrible job of assessing value. Like some have already mentioned, Kyrie is a sunk cost to the Nets and therefore receiving anything of value for him in a trade should be considered a win. Dumping salary is a win for obvious reasons. Teams usually have to attach an asset in order to dump a toxic contract. Also receiving any picks (even a 2nd round pick) should be considered a win. Some of y’all are thinking about this all wrong. Why should the Nets even care if they make the Lakers better. Your premise is flawed in assuming that such a trade would achieve a zero sum result for the Nets. The last team that tried to capitalize on the Lakers perceived desperation requested a draft pick for an equally useless player; said player was bought out a few months later.

Kyrie for Westbrook and a 1st round pick is an absolute terrible deal for the Nets and a steal for the Lakers. The Nets would be paying 22 million dollars more (luxury tax included) just to take on Westbrook contract & perhaps a 1st round pick that wouldn't be in the lottery. Executives/GM's get fired for less.

Perhaps the Nets including Harris makes it less terrible but he was statistically the best 3pt shooter in the league the year before he got hurt. His value shouldn't be that low.

That’s not the rumored trade though. Such a trade is probably not even legal from a salary cap standpoint. A salary dump from the Nets side has to be involved.

Yeah I just checked and a Russ/Kyrie straight up wouldn't work. The rumor is the Nets wanting to include Harris but the Lakers prefering Curry.

Harris is a comparable shooter, bigger and a better defender than Curry. If the rumor is true I hope Jeanie eats the extra costs and go with Harris.

[TheWitcher]

I'm just here to watch RealGM burn.

Not to worry, it’ll burn extra bright when it all blows up in the Lakers faces.

[facothomas22]

westbrook is a horrid shooter and decision maker but an expiring contract this upcoming season and they can get a FRP and more out of it so it makes sense. lebron continues to show he is weak and will never be the goat constantly trying to pile up big 3’s and superteams. kyrie is a little overrated though and lots of other west teams could still easily beat them.

Kyrie is also a expiring deal as well,so there's no reason to trade him,unless you can get a lot of assets in return. Who cares about these 1s round picks if that means they take a terrible player who makes over 45 million dollars in a year. Remember, the Pacers declined the Lakers trade offer,which included Russell Westbrook,TNT,and a 2027 unprotected 1st round pick in exchange for Malcolm Brodgon becasue of that terrible contract. Malcolm is clearly a worse player than Kyrie and also unlike the Nets,the Pacers have a reason to rebuild since they have their own draft picks.

[Paradise]

I feel like thats the deal. Id prefer to have seth and keep talen but i can see Nets wanting out of Joe

I’d prefer to have 2027 1st, 2029 1st and Kendrick Nunn.

[JordansBulls]

If Kyrie is expiring anyway why does Brooklyn care if he plays or not? Might as well keep him.

[John Murdoch]

man imagine trading for westbrick LOL.... talk about hitting rockbottom brooklyn.

Its about salary dump and the 1st...WB himself could get bought out after hes simply an expiring

[EArl]

This is exciting.

Lakers with LeBron, AD, Kyrie are filthy good. Best trio in the league.

Feel like we said the same exact thing a little over a year ago about Durant, Harden and Kyrie.

and Lebron, AD and Westbrook.
Nothing is a guarantee. I'm still not sure how I feel about Kyrie on the Lakers. Maybe Bron can reel him in.

[Jfh20]

this guarantees a kd trade

[hoosierdaddy34]

See can be said for the Lakers who is giving them anything for Russ? I get your side of it but Nets get the capspace just sitting Kyrie this year too which is likely what may happen with Russ on the Nets... It is literally LA's only bailout. The Nets can just sit or potentially someone else might trade them something for a year rental on Kyrie. No one is trading for Russ. Nets have the pole position in this

No it’s not. Please Nets, send him somewhere as salary ballast so he gets bought out. Lakers would love to save the picks and sign him for the vet minimum.

Quit bluffing.

Lakers desperately want to move Westbrook before season starts. And they absolutely love the idea of getting Kyrie in a trade, there is zero other trade options available for Westbrook. Two picks is the cost of trading your headcase for a more talented headcase.

There is no bluffing here. The Nets know this, that’s why they are going to make the deal.

[Eric Bieniemy]

Hatred and envy blinds logic.