Victor Wembanyama Mega-Thread - For all your Wembanyama needs!

[Wolveswin]

Do the Pelicans have the Lakers' 2023 pick/pick swap? What if they end up with Victor Wembanyama?

Yes. Lakers have 0.0% chance of drafting Wembanyama!

Lakers, Bucks, Wolves, Nets, 76ers, Clippers (forgetting anyone?) all have 0.0% chance at drafting Victor.

[UcanUwill]

Do the Pelicans have the Lakers' 2023 pick/pick swap? What if they end up with Victor Wembanyama?

Yes. Lakers have 0.0% chance of drafting Wembanyama!

Lakers, Bucks, Wolves, Nets, 76ers, Clippers (forgetting anyone?) all have 0.0% chance at drafting Victor.

Maybe if Kings win the lotto, they pass on Victor. Is Bagley's brother in the draft Sorry, that was low effort dig.

[scrabbarista]

Do the Pelicans have the Lakers' 2023 pick/pick swap? What if they end up with Victor Wembanyama?

Yes. Lakers have 0.0% chance of drafting Wembanyama!

Lakers, Bucks, Wolves, Nets, 76ers, Clippers (forgetting anyone?) all have 0.0% chance at drafting Victor.

If Philly wins the lotto, the pick goes to the Nets.

[-Luke-]

Holy hell if the Pelicans end up with Wemby the AD trade is going to go down as the biggest trade haul of all time


Wemby/Zion/Ingram/McCollum

Dear god

Didn't they draft Zion with their own pick?

[Saul Goodman]

Holy hell if the Pelicans end up with Wemby the AD trade is going to go down as the biggest trade haul of all time


Wemby/Zion/Ingram/McCollum

Dear god

Didn't they draft Zion with their own pick?

Didn't phrase it properly I meant that thats their team after Wemby haha. Though they could have had in theory Garland/Ingram/Top 5 pick this season, top 5 pick next for Davis which is unbelievable

[Wolveswin]

Do the Pelicans have the Lakers' 2023 pick/pick swap? What if they end up with Victor Wembanyama?

Yes. Lakers have 0.0% chance of drafting Wembanyama!

Lakers, Bucks, Wolves, Nets, 76ers, Clippers (forgetting anyone?) all have 0.0% chance at drafting Victor.

If Philly wins the lotto, the pick goes to the Nets.

Ok let’s take Nets off the 0.0 list and add to .000001 list.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Do the Pelicans have the Lakers' 2023 pick/pick swap? What if they end up with Victor Wembanyama?

Yes. Lakers have 0.0% chance of drafting Wembanyama!

Lakers, Bucks, Wolves, Nets, 76ers, Clippers (forgetting anyone?) all have 0.0% chance at drafting Victor.

I still wonder if there is a play where Pelicans will release the pick swap for compensation if they continue to do well and Lakers continue to tank. Like I'm talking AD gets traded to a 3rd team and pelicans get a young starter and Lakers keep there pic.

Yeah it is fun to have the lottery ticket for the Pelicans, but in reality Lakers wont fully tank (without a chance at the lottery) and most likely scenario is 10th pick in 2023. Would you rather have a 2023 10th pick or decent starter if you are the pelicans?

Lakers could then go full rebuild and be favorites for Victor.

[Wallace_Wallace]

Do the Pelicans have the Lakers' 2023 pick/pick swap? What if they end up with Victor Wembanyama?

Yes. Lakers have 0.0% chance of drafting Wembanyama!

Lakers, Bucks, Wolves, Nets, 76ers, Clippers (forgetting anyone?) all have 0.0% chance at drafting Victor.

I still wonder if there is a play where Pelicans will release the pick swap for compensation if they continue to do well and Lakers continue to tank. Like I'm talking AD gets traded to a 3rd team and pelicans get a young starter and Lakers keep there pic.

Yeah it is fun to have the lottery ticket for the Pelicans, but in reality Lakers wont fully tank (without a chance at the lottery) and most likely scenario is 10th pick in 2023. Would you rather have a 2023 10th pick or decent starter if you are the pelicans?

Lakers could then go full rebuild and be favorites for Victor.

I should have said "they" as in the Pelicans could get Victor Wembanyama. I don't think the Lakers can get any better, in fact they can get worse if one of AD/LeBron gets injured which is very likely due to age (LeBron) and past medical records (AD).

The Pels end up with two of the most intriguing players in the league in Zion and Victor.

[Whole Truth]

Do the Pelicans have the Lakers' 2023 pick/pick swap? What if they end up with Victor Wembanyama?

Yes. Lakers have 0.0% chance of drafting Wembanyama!

Lakers, Bucks, Wolves, Nets, 76ers, Clippers (forgetting anyone?) all have 0.0% chance at drafting Victor.

I still wonder if there is a play where Pelicans will release the pick swap for compensation if they continue to do well and Lakers continue to tank. Like I'm talking AD gets traded to a 3rd team and pelicans get a young starter and Lakers keep there pic.

Yeah it is fun to have the lottery ticket for the Pelicans, but in reality Lakers wont fully tank (without a chance at the lottery) and most likely scenario is 10th pick in 2023. Would you rather have a 2023 10th pick or decent starter if you are the pelicans?

Lakers could then go full rebuild and be favorites for Victor.

Same reason you'd be willing to trade Davis' return for the 23 pick & a shot at Wemba, same reason NO's doesn't trade it. Wherever Lakers finish in the draft, top 4 will be a luck factor & I think the draft is deep enough to warrent the risk of not ending up with Wemba but atleast having an outside shot at the possibility. Lakers could decide to tank out the season but it does not guarantee a top 4 selection either. So your interest is the possibility of Wemba not the reality of him. Same as NO's.. The young player would have to be a game changer on rookie scale to even begin to consider. Who do you realistically have in mind ? What good young piece is a team giving up for an often injured Davis ?

The percieved benefit of bolstering the 24/25 pick by LA trading Davis is offset by Lebron, a top 10 pick & cap space in strong 24 free agent class.

After acquiring CJ & extending Zion, NO's are fast approaching luxury tax territory where adding young talent on rookie scale is important to both the cap hit & a constant influx of fresh talent, sustainability & control for a small market. A nice blend of vets, youth, max & rookie scale contracts balancing the roster makeup & contract obligations. The current roster is also deep where Pels need a consolidation trade to get the 8th pick into the 10 man rotation for PT & development.

The 2 roster spots NO's would like to upgrade moving forward are Jonas & CJ. This draft has 7 prospects that potentially fit that need that would be on rookie scale & control

- Wemba, Ware, Jackson (Jonas expiring)
Zion
Herb
BI
- Scoot, Wallace, Amen, Smith (CJ moved to 6th man)

What young player do you have in mind over these potential cheap talent upgrades, all things considered ?

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Yes. Lakers have 0.0% chance of drafting Wembanyama!

Lakers, Bucks, Wolves, Nets, 76ers, Clippers (forgetting anyone?) all have 0.0% chance at drafting Victor.

I still wonder if there is a play where Pelicans will release the pick swap for compensation if they continue to do well and Lakers continue to tank. Like I'm talking AD gets traded to a 3rd team and pelicans get a young starter and Lakers keep there pic.

Yeah it is fun to have the lottery ticket for the Pelicans, but in reality Lakers wont fully tank (without a chance at the lottery) and most likely scenario is 10th pick in 2023. Would you rather have a 2023 10th pick or decent starter if you are the pelicans?

Lakers could then go full rebuild and be favorites for Victor.

Same reason you'd be willing to trade Davis' return for the 23 pick & a shot at Wemba, same reason NO's doesn't trade it. Wherever Lakers finish in the draft, top 4 will be a luck factor & I think the draft is deep enough to warrent the risk of not ending up with Wemba but atleast having an outside shot at the possibility. Lakers could decide to tank out the season but it does not guarantee a top 4 selection either. So your interest is the possibility of Wemba not the reality of him. Same as NO's.. The young player would have to be a game changer on rookie scale to even begin to consider. Who do you realistically have in mind ? What good young piece is a team giving up for an often injured Davis ?

I think we are more in disagreement of where the Lakers end up if they don't tank. I bet they 'fight' their way to 10-12 pick, which is only a 10% chance at a Top 5 pick. If the Lakers tank, its probably a 60% chance at top 5. The trade is trying to create arbitrage as the Lakers SHOULD value having their pick back more than then the Pelicans value that pick as Lakers have the ability to make it a much better pick.

You seem to think the Lakers are bottom 7 team when they have every incentive to try for the playoffs (and even if they aren't in playoff contention, I think they will still prioritize winning meaningless games just to avoid the embarrassment of Pelicans getting the #1 pick). Even in a deep draft a 10-12 pick is very shakey

To be clear, I am a Bucks fan.

[Whole Truth]

I still wonder if there is a play where Pelicans will release the pick swap for compensation if they continue to do well and Lakers continue to tank. Like I'm talking AD gets traded to a 3rd team and pelicans get a young starter and Lakers keep there pic.

Yeah it is fun to have the lottery ticket for the Pelicans, but in reality Lakers wont fully tank (without a chance at the lottery) and most likely scenario is 10th pick in 2023. Would you rather have a 2023 10th pick or decent starter if you are the pelicans?

Lakers could then go full rebuild and be favorites for Victor.

Same reason you'd be willing to trade Davis' return for the 23 pick & a shot at Wemba, same reason NO's doesn't trade it. Wherever Lakers finish in the draft, top 4 will be a luck factor & I think the draft is deep enough to warrent the risk of not ending up with Wemba but atleast having an outside shot at the possibility. Lakers could decide to tank out the season but it does not guarantee a top 4 selection either. So your interest is the possibility of Wemba not the reality of him. Same as NO's.. The young player would have to be a game changer on rookie scale to even begin to consider. Who do you realistically have in mind ? What good young piece is a team giving up for an often injured Davis ?

I think we are more in disagreement of where the Lakers end up if they don't tank. I bet they 'right' their way to 10-12 pick, which is only a 10% chance at a Top 5 pick. If the Lakers tank, its probably a 60% chance at top 5. The trade is trying to create arbitrage as the Lakers SHOULD value having their pick back more than then the Pelicans value that pick as Lakers have the ability to make it a much better pick.

You seem to think the Lakers are bottom 7 team when they have every incentive to try for the playoffs (and even if they are in playoff contention, I think they will still prioritize winning meaningless games just to avoid the embarrassment of Pelicans getting the #1 pick). Even in a deep draft a 10-12 pick is very shakey

To be clear, I am a Bucks fan.

I think they could be bottom 5 actually - but I have them projected in the 8-12 range with a reserved outlook as it's best to not assume a best case scenario. There's 4-5 swing prospects sandwhich between the 7 prospects I listed = 11-12 possible selections. So I think NO's will get a player of interest at 12 with an outside shot at luck for a generational talent. U trade out of that opportunity & LA lands top 4 or best case Wemba, it would be hard pill to swallow.

The 0-4 start is unexpected. I thouhgt LA would have started off strong then fade. IT's not benefitial to a team that is top heavy with little quality depth that features an often injured Davis & ageing Lebron logging heavy mins & responsibility for an entire season. At some point, one or both will miss time & this roster can't afford either loss more less potneitally both, they no longer have Monk as a 3rd option carrying some of that load. They are already ahead of my 8-12 projection, which factors a potential trade with Indiana for Turner/Heild.

With the way LA is constructed, if either Davis or Lebron go down, it increases the odds the other does too.

[HangTime]

Do the Pelicans have the Lakers' 2023 pick/pick swap? What if they end up with Victor Wembanyama?

Yes. Lakers have 0.0% chance of drafting Wembanyama!

Lakers, Bucks, Wolves, Nets, 76ers, Clippers (forgetting anyone?) all have 0.0% chance at drafting Victor.

in 1976 the New Orleans (Jazz) traded a 1979 1st round pick to the Lakers, which ended up being a generational talent in Magic Johnson.

In 2019, the Lakers traded a 2023 1st round pick to New Orleans, and they can end up with a Generational talent in Victor Wembanyama.

The Lakers are just returning New Orleans the favour.

[KG Leonard]

He means (probably) that since Silver made some statements about the potential tanking this season (saying nba will monitor it), it's kinda paradoxal to broadcast the games of the potential cause of this tanking.

If Victor gets injured, all the people that are pissed about it have probably already prepared their "Jinx" post or threads

Also if we talk abt market, bball is nowaday international and the NBA has just talked during the announcment of Vic's games on the NBA app, that they also wanna expend to other leagues.
Victor not being in the NBA doesnt make him a money factor for the NBA, and more money for the French league that really need it.
And the NBA does that for the audience, to avoid ignorance like with Luka when litterally nobody saw him playing with Real Madrid. They dont do that for team to be more and more excited, any team know everything abt hm now. Time for y'all to see everything !

Well said really i don't understand how some American nba fans, all my fav NBA poddcast like The Ringer,Athletic etc act like the NBA is mostly for the US viewers. The game, the league is way too global, much bigger than that.
For me an African immigrant in Sweden, NBA is bigger than the biggest Soccer leagues like for many other Europeans. Watching NBA on LP is the only option because we don't get Euro League or the best European leagues on cable sports as often as NBA on LP over here.

This is huge news, awesome to watch a French freak before he goes to NBA. College players,games isn't as relevant to an Eurpopean fan. Grown men in lesser a league testing Wemby is must see tv.
NBA is smart because the money for LP is not being wasted on cable sports that don't show as much bball as LP. They are destroying the competition for our money.

[D.Brasco]

I wonder if he's being put through any strength/mobility training tailored to his specific body type? Because his frame right now just screams various injury risk spots to me.

[UcanUwill]

I wonder if he's being put through any strength/mobility training tailored to his specific body type? Because his frame right now just screams various injury risk spots to me.

I think he does and he is growing into his body. To me, he looks way better than even 14 months ago.

[Old Man Game]

I wonder if he's being put through any strength/mobility training tailored to his specific body type? Because his frame right now just screams various injury risk spots to me.

He looks more Durant than Chet to my eye. Slim but not frail. I'm hopeful that he'll be at least somewhat durable as these things go.

[penggemar]

He said that he was always been tall all his life (unlike some people with relatively quick growth spurt like e.g Anthony Davis) so probably he's already used to playing as the tallest guy on the court, and take it into consideration in his preparations including strength training, injuries preventions and recovery.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

He has the body type like Kevin Garnett did when he was 18-20, he's slim/skinny but there's striations and muscle definition in his upper body, and judging by how he holds his ground he's much stronger than he looks, which was the case with KG.







At the same age his body is a lot further along than AD's was, which makes sense since he's a pro.

[rocketsfan100]

The odds of this kid ending up in New Orleans dude to the lakers incompetency is growing. Imagine him on this already loaded pelicans. Even Scoot would be crazy consolation prize

[zimpy27]

There's little to no chance that the Lakers pick goes number 1 or even top 4.

It will 10th or higher