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Post#201 » by Hero » Thu Nov 3, 2022 8:48 pm

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Hero wrote:Cool to see a lot of people in the NBA community speaking out about the association with the ADL. If he wants to stand against hate there are so many better organizations to be associated with.

Sad day for the NBA.


What?
yikes these takes just get worse and worse


Please elaborate if you have an issue.
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Post#202 » by tripa » Thu Nov 3, 2022 8:50 pm

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tooler wrote:What I want to know is what's eating him up inside to make him go down this path? As an optimist I feel like there has to be a good reason for someone to get invested in stuff like this. Some sort of axe to grind or injustice they feel like they have to solve. I'm fascinated by stuff like this.

I don't know if we'll ever know the answer.

As a black man its very hard to find out about your history. Sometimes people get caught in weird rabbitholes instead. Thats probably the best way that I can explain it

This seems likely. More generally, he's very clearly attracted to the idea of attaining secret/special knowledge and understandings that other people don't have, which is a trait a lot of people who end up getting into conspiracy theories share.


His outside of the box thinking has allowed him to play a sport for hundreds of millions of dollars, so in a lot of ways he actually does have special knowledge. Its probably damn near impossible for his friends/family to talk any sense into him.
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Post#203 » by ShootersShoot » Thu Nov 3, 2022 8:52 pm

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Asianiac_24 wrote:
Stalwart wrote:Aa an African American I support Kyries right to free speech and wish he did not apologize. By apologizing hes allowing the woke mob to escalate theyre book burning information
suppressing agendas that will hurt black people the most. Even after donating half a million dollars his critics are still trashing him ITT. It doesn't matter as they will hate him no matter what.

The NBA is now a grounds for social politics, social engineering, fake news, division, and hatred. Unfortunate.


So if Nikola Jokic or some white superstar promotes "The Birth of a Nation" or some KKK documentary, you think that's fine too?

I would'nt give 2 doo doos if they posted a link to a movie on Amazon to birth of a nation or any kkk documentary

not 2 doo doos

they have that right, I prob would'nt buy their shoes anymore or follow hem as much but I would not give a single ounce of doo doo

they shouldnt be extorted into apologies, lose their livilihoods, be forced to pay millions of dollars to orginizations they dont actually support, be cancelled for posting a link to amazon that also posts the same link and profits from the video

use that energy in cancelling amazon for hosting it and profiting from it, when Amazon pays the NBA for streaming rights is Adam Silver gonna turn down the blood money? nope

ye and kyrie are proving a point at the cost of hundreds of millions of dollars Im not a fan of either but I respect they willing to stand up for something whatever it is whether I agree with them or not

Im a grown man living in amerikkka, if youre not paying me or my bills I dont give a doo doo what you do in your free time long as your not physically touching me

the NBA has uber and door dash patches/ads everywhere, just those 2 companies are modern labor human trafficking apps they literally use an app instead of a gun to rob mostly senior citizens and immigrants into doing an hour of work for $4 gross million of times per day no one cares

all these crypto ads scamming people you can literally be coinbase crypto dot com for $400 in parts and umbrel

players shilling nfts not having a clue long as the check clears

gamblings ads every other commerical

I actually grew up on and love gangster rap but it has no place being played during commercial breaks/half times hows where children can hear it

and nike / china haha its literally modern slaves making all these shoes

I watch the NBA to see the best basketball players PLAY basketball they atr not role models or anyone Id consider taking advice from unless it was about basketball

all these dudes from commissioner on down are capitalist parasites and hypocrites, they are not heroes they hoopers thats it, hey exist to entertain me period, I care about them as much as they care about me.


Bro, listen..you have the right to not care about hate speech or racism for that matter, but everyone else has the right to not tolerate it. That's the whole point of free speech. A person can say what they want, and others are free to feel how they want about it. If we were forced to listen to hate speech and not be able to do anything about it, that's not freedom. That's oppression...

Backlash is not oppression, it is people exercising their rights.
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Post#204 » by Slax » Thu Nov 3, 2022 8:54 pm

tripa wrote:
Slax wrote:
tripa wrote:As a black man its very hard to find out about your history. Sometimes people get caught in weird rabbitholes instead. Thats probably the best way that I can explain it

This seems likely. More generally, he's very clearly attracted to the idea of attaining secret/special knowledge and understandings that other people don't have, which is a trait a lot of people who end up getting into conspiracy theories share.


His outside of the box thinking has allowed him to play a sport for hundreds of millions of dollars, so in a lot of ways he actually does have special knowledge. Its probably damn near impossible for his friends/family to talk any sense into him.

When I say special knowledge, I am thinking more in terms of hidden realities than learned skills. There are millions of far less talented people who go down similar paths of getting caught up in grand conspiracy theories. But yeah I agree that being actually successful at one thing probably makes him feel emboldened in his discernment in other areas and less likely to accept reality checks.
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Post#205 » by Wooderson » Thu Nov 3, 2022 8:55 pm

tripa wrote:
tooler wrote:What I want to know is what's eating him up inside to make him go down this path? As an optimist I feel like there has to be a good reason for someone to get invested in stuff like this. Some sort of axe to grind or injustice they feel like they have to solve. I'm fascinated by stuff like this.

I don't know if we'll ever know the answer.

As a black man its very hard to find out about your history. Sometimes people get caught in weird rabbitholes instead. Thats probably the best way that I can explain it


The ironic thing about this is many Jewish people deal with the same issue of history gaps with swaths of their ancestry wiped out in the Holocaust (not trying to compare atrocities but rather show there's a lot of commonality that people can't embrace to move forward together in this world). Tribalism gonna tribalism.
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Post#206 » by Marvin Martian » Thu Nov 3, 2022 8:57 pm

tooler wrote:What I want to know is what's eating him up inside to make him go down this path? As an optimist I feel like there has to be a good reason for someone to get invested in stuff like this. Some sort of axe to grind or injustice they feel like they have to solve. I'm fascinated by stuff like this.

I don't know if we'll ever know the answer.

Same reason that there are more conspiracy theorists out there. The world is becoming more and more destabilized, and the establishment is running out of answers and excuses.
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Post#207 » by topnotch » Thu Nov 3, 2022 8:59 pm

Fadeaway_Jumper wrote:Can anyone actually provide a clip, link or actual real quote from the movie?

This movie has caused massive drama and turmoil but I haven’t seen one real image of it

Its basically a you tube production value history documentary on Africa / Iraq

Theres lots of bible quotes and language breakdowns where Indians, Mayans, Aztec... used the Hebrew dialects hundreds/thousands of years before the people currently claiming to be the chosen people did, as they spoke mainly yiddish until about 1860 ish which comes from a Germanic language....

Theres lots of DNA breakdowns as well showing negroid markers in various parts of the world....

The main premise is there werent many Caucasions running around Africa/Iraq thousands of years ago and the Black race is actually Gods chosen people....

Im not big into religion but that's the break down nothing mind blowing, it's pretty boring and long , I really didnt get huge conspiracy or anti semtic vibes but YMMV obviously
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Post#208 » by nikster » Thu Nov 3, 2022 9:01 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:I think that there a lot of people on here defending Kyrie because in fact, they are really trying to defend the fact that they hold the same views

Maybe not so many people, but a few that just keep coming back with it

I wouldnt be surprised. One guy in the wiretap was defending Kyrie and saying the movies not antisemetic...then proceeded to say he believes a small group of elite Jews has been weaponizing the religion as a means of power and control
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Post#209 » by topnotch » Thu Nov 3, 2022 9:04 pm

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topnotch wrote:
Asianiac_24 wrote:
So if Nikola Jokic or some white superstar promotes "The Birth of a Nation" or some KKK documentary, you think that's fine too?

I would'nt give 2 doo doos if they posted a link to a movie on Amazon to birth of a nation or any kkk documentary

not 2 doo doos

they have that right, I prob would'nt buy their shoes anymore or follow hem as much but I would not give a single ounce of doo doo

they shouldnt be extorted into apologies, lose their livilihoods, be forced to pay millions of dollars to orginizations they dont actually support, be cancelled for posting a link to amazon that also posts the same link and profits from the video

use that energy in cancelling amazon for hosting it and profiting from it, when Amazon pays the NBA for streaming rights is Adam Silver gonna turn down the blood money? nope

ye and kyrie are proving a point at the cost of hundreds of millions of dollars Im not a fan of either but I respect they willing to stand up for something whatever it is whether I agree with them or not

Im a grown man living in amerikkka, if youre not paying me or my bills I dont give a doo doo what you do in your free time long as your not physically touching me

the NBA has uber and door dash patches/ads everywhere, just those 2 companies are modern labor human trafficking apps they literally use an app instead of a gun to rob mostly senior citizens and immigrants into doing an hour of work for $4 gross million of times per day no one cares

all these crypto ads scamming people you can literally be coinbase crypto dot com for $400 in parts and umbrel

players shilling nfts not having a clue long as the check clears

gamblings ads every other commerical

I actually grew up on and love gangster rap but it has no place being played during commercial breaks/half times hows where children can hear it

and nike / china haha its literally modern slaves making all these shoes

I watch the NBA to see the best basketball players PLAY basketball they atr not role models or anyone Id consider taking advice from unless it was about basketball

all these dudes from commissioner on down are capitalist parasites and hypocrites, they are not heroes they hoopers thats it, hey exist to entertain me period, I care about them as much as they care about me.


Bro, listen..you have the right to not care about hate speech or racism for that matter, but everyone else has the right to not tolerate it. That's the whole point of free speech. A person can say what they want, and others are free to feel how they want about it. If we were forced to listen to hate speech and not be able to do anything about it, that's not freedom. That's oppression...

Backlash is not oppression, it is people exercising their rights.


No ones being oppressed and people can do what they want but it's pretty obvious 99% of people upset havent watched the movie and are just parroting what a handful of media companies are putting out there, he bigger this gets the funnier it gets

hate Kyrie all you want boycott him all you want but save the same energy for Amazon, the NBA, and all the other hypocrites involved in this comedy
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Post#210 » by azcatz11 » Thu Nov 3, 2022 9:06 pm

All of this crap is doing is putting the blacks vs the Jews. It’s really sad to see. And guess who comes out on top? The neo nazis who hate us both.

This crap needs to end
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Post#211 » by Ni Da Ye » Thu Nov 3, 2022 9:06 pm

So he paid 1.5% of his salary as the consequence.

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Post#212 » by Palma Dutch » Thu Nov 3, 2022 9:10 pm

azcatz11 wrote:All of this crap is doing is putting the blacks vs the Jews. It’s really sad to see. And guess who comes out on top? The neo nazis who hate us both.

This crap needs to end

And a good portion of those Nazis are feds who plot to kidnap governors and try to offload tannerite to schizophrenics on Discord. I just disconnect from these news cycles, it's 36 flavors of pain at this point. Can barely watch the Clippers miss threes, let alone read press statements on antisemitism.
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Post#213 » by jman3134 » Thu Nov 3, 2022 9:12 pm

jman3134 wrote:'Here's $500k. I really don't disagree with anything I posted and I renounce none of it, but stop hate! No one should be hateful. I'm sorry some people mistakenly took my post in a hateful way.'

Gaslighting 101 hahaha


Meeting prior to "the difficult decision":

Nets Management/Ownership: Just give $2million to a Jewish charity and people will forget about it in a month. (like we forgot about the Ime Udoka allegations)

Kyrie: $500,000.

Nets Management/Ownership: Sold.
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Post#214 » by Eric Bieniemy » Thu Nov 3, 2022 9:16 pm

azcatz11 wrote:All of this crap is doing is putting the blacks vs the Jews. It’s really sad to see. And guess who comes out on top? The neo nazis who hate us both.

This crap needs to end

Agreed. A simple dialogue could end this "debate", but it'll never happen. This is scriptural discussion. If you aren't a biblical scholar, your opinion means nothing, including myself.

I'd just like to see an honest, civil discourse/dialogue. Based on recent history, just asking the question "Who are the people of The Bible?" will get you labeled. I don't think that's healthy.
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Post#215 » by BBallFreak » Thu Nov 3, 2022 9:18 pm

topnotch wrote:
ShootersShoot wrote:
topnotch wrote:I would'nt give 2 doo doos if they posted a link to a movie on Amazon to birth of a nation or any kkk documentary

not 2 doo doos

they have that right, I prob would'nt buy their shoes anymore or follow hem as much but I would not give a single ounce of doo doo

they shouldnt be extorted into apologies, lose their livilihoods, be forced to pay millions of dollars to orginizations they dont actually support, be cancelled for posting a link to amazon that also posts the same link and profits from the video

use that energy in cancelling amazon for hosting it and profiting from it, when Amazon pays the NBA for streaming rights is Adam Silver gonna turn down the blood money? nope

ye and kyrie are proving a point at the cost of hundreds of millions of dollars Im not a fan of either but I respect they willing to stand up for something whatever it is whether I agree with them or not

Im a grown man living in amerikkka, if youre not paying me or my bills I dont give a doo doo what you do in your free time long as your not physically touching me

the NBA has uber and door dash patches/ads everywhere, just those 2 companies are modern labor human trafficking apps they literally use an app instead of a gun to rob mostly senior citizens and immigrants into doing an hour of work for $4 gross million of times per day no one cares

all these crypto ads scamming people you can literally be coinbase crypto dot com for $400 in parts and umbrel

players shilling nfts not having a clue long as the check clears

gamblings ads every other commerical

I actually grew up on and love gangster rap but it has no place being played during commercial breaks/half times hows where children can hear it

and nike / china haha its literally modern slaves making all these shoes

I watch the NBA to see the best basketball players PLAY basketball they atr not role models or anyone Id consider taking advice from unless it was about basketball

all these dudes from commissioner on down are capitalist parasites and hypocrites, they are not heroes they hoopers thats it, hey exist to entertain me period, I care about them as much as they care about me.


Bro, listen..you have the right to not care about hate speech or racism for that matter, but everyone else has the right to not tolerate it. That's the whole point of free speech. A person can say what they want, and others are free to feel how they want about it. If we were forced to listen to hate speech and not be able to do anything about it, that's not freedom. That's oppression...

Backlash is not oppression, it is people exercising their rights.


No ones being oppressed and people can do what they want but it's pretty obvious 99% of people upset havent watched the movie and are just parroting what a handful of media companies are putting out there, he bigger this gets the funnier it gets

hate Kyrie all you want boycott him all you want but save the same energy for Amazon, the NBA, and all the other hypocrites involved in this comedy

So, unless I watch it or read it, I can't call it anti-semitic? I'm looking at quotes, supposedly from Adolf Hitler, portrayed as something almost holy and you think I need to spend more time with this? You're joking.

I don't need to attend a Klan meeting to know they're racists, I don't need to be an incel to understand that they dislike women, and I don't need to watch this film to know that anyone that quotes Hitler (even falsely) in a way the glorifies him is anti-semitic.
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Post#216 » by xAIRNESSx » Thu Nov 3, 2022 9:20 pm

Why are Kyrie defenders so upset?

He endorsed an antisemitic video filled with false information and he's facing pressure, but no one's forcing him to do anything. He's still receiving his paycheque.

He's allowed to have his opinion but when it's not based on factual information and offends the NBA fanbase, he will face the societal repercussions of holding that opinion.
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Post#217 » by The Sebastian Express » Thu Nov 3, 2022 9:20 pm

Read on Twitter


I think this is relevant in light of this conversation and the fact a good number of you defending Kyrie are worried about 'his life being destroyed' but seem to have little care for how antiSemitic speech and conspiracy theories, Holocaust denial and 'Jews run the world' lead to stuff like this being possible.
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Post#218 » by topnotch » Thu Nov 3, 2022 9:23 pm

azcatz11 wrote:All of this crap is doing is putting the blacks vs the Jews. It’s really sad to see. And guess who comes out on top? The neo nazis who hate us both.

This crap needs to end

nah the winners are the Catholics In Action CIA
those wasps that control those who control everything I kid I kid

classic divide and conquer with some streisand effect thrown in as I would of never watched or heard of this movie, but i did and still dont see what all the outrage is about

a family guy or all in the family episode is more offensive imo

apparently senses of humor dont exist anymore

I do agree its crap
used to be when a celebrity put their foot in their mouth they were just clowned not lynched
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Post#219 » by SlovenianDragon » Thu Nov 3, 2022 9:23 pm

I believe there was a planet much like earth somewhere that destroyed itself and a space craft that escaped carrying the surviving humans traveled for a very long time but eventually ran out of supplies so they took babies and put them in escape pods and shot them in multiple directions hoping one of them might land on a planet and start the human race all over again the escape pod that hot earth after many years was carrying Adam and eve....

Ur welcome.

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Post#220 » by topnotch » Thu Nov 3, 2022 9:33 pm

Spoiler:
BBallFreak wrote:
topnotch wrote:
ShootersShoot wrote:
Bro, listen..you have the right to not care about hate speech or racism for that matter, but everyone else has the right to not tolerate it. That's the whole point of free speech. A person can say what they want, and others are free to feel how they want about it. If we were forced to listen to hate speech and not be able to do anything about it, that's not freedom. That's oppression...

Backlash is not oppression, it is people exercising their rights.


No ones being oppressed and people can do what they want but it's pretty obvious 99% of people upset havent watched the movie and are just parroting what a handful of media companies are putting out there, he bigger this gets the funnier it gets

hate Kyrie all you want boycott him all you want but save the same energy for Amazon, the NBA, and all the other hypocrites involved in this comedy

So, unless I watch it or read it, I can't call it anti-semitic? I'm looking at quotes, supposedly from Adolf Hitler, portrayed as something almost holy and you think I need to spend more time with this? You're joking.

I don't need to attend a Klan meeting to know they're racists, I don't need to be an incel to understand that they dislike women, and I don't need to watch this film to know that anyone that quotes Hitler (even falsely) in a way the glorifies him is anti-semitic.


its called paraphrasing and taking things out of context
No you cant call it anything if you havent seen it, news articles, history books also quote hitler

you are by definition ignorant on anything pertaining to the actual movie

If you havent seen it you shouldnt have an opinion I mean thats pretty common sense I dont say tvs shows suck that I havent seen, Ill jus say it doesnt interest me havent seen it not lable it something because of 1 scene out of a few hours

if the only part of pulp fiction you saw was a ving rhames bent over you prob wouldnt go check out the rest of the movie and have a biased view of it

I dont recall any part of the movie glorifying hitler
The movie isnt a klan rally or an incel forum


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