Jokic Making a lot of folks look dumb

[dhsilv2]

Are NBA players - and NBA All-Stars like LeBron, KD and Steph - just idiots who simply aren't "approaching the debate objectively"? Huh?

Yes, this has been discussed and proven 1,000 times over here.

[bebopdeluxe]

We can’t agree, because it’s clear to anyone approaching the debate objectively that Jokic has been and continues to be the comfortably superior player.

Saying this over and over again doesn't make it true. Why did the PLAYERS pick Embiid by a 2 to 1 margin if this is SO "objectively true"? Why is Embiid ALWAYS the first pick in the All-Star draft as opposed to Jokic (who, I think was the LAST person picked)? Are NBA players - and NBA All-Stars like LeBron, KD and Steph - just idiots who simply aren't "approaching the debate objectively"? Huh?

I think Embiid deserved to be the MVP. I think he deserved it last year as well. But I don't come on this board and make ridiculously condescending statements like "it's clear to ANYONE approaching this objectively" that Embiid is the "comfortably superior player".

For EVERYBODY on this board who actually wants this smackfest to end...for EVERYBODY on this board who wants "Exhibit A" as to why posters like me are sick and tired of Jokic stans, read this guy's attitude.

If you’re resorting to the “who do players prefer” argument you’re really reaching. Time and again when these polls come out the players ability to properly evaluate the impact and skill of certain players is wildly inaccurate.

Maybe. But I will take the word of guys who have to FEEL Embiid on the court than some condescending rando on the internet.

But that's just me.

[QingJames]

Saying this over and over again doesn't make it true. Why did the PLAYERS pick Embiid by a 2 to 1 margin if this is SO "objectively true"? Why is Embiid ALWAYS the first pick in the All-Star draft as opposed to Jokic (who, I think was the LAST person picked)? Are NBA players - and NBA All-Stars like LeBron, KD and Steph - just idiots who simply aren't "approaching the debate objectively"? Huh?

I think Embiid deserved to be the MVP. I think he deserved it last year as well. But I don't come on this board and make ridiculously condescending statements like "it's clear to ANYONE approaching this objectively" that Embiid is the "comfortably superior player".

For EVERYBODY on this board who actually wants this smackfest to end...for EVERYBODY on this board who wants "Exhibit A" as to why posters like me are sick and tired of Jokic stans, read this guy's attitude.

If you’re resorting to the “who do players prefer” argument you’re really reaching. Time and again when these polls come out the players ability to properly evaluate the impact and skill of certain players is wildly inaccurate.

Maybe. But I will take the word of guys who have to FEEL Embiid on the court than some condescending rando on the internet.

But that's just me.

Yes, exactly. That’s why they prefer Embiid. His impact is strictly more visible to opposing defenders, whereas Jokic supports an offensive ecosystem and impacts the game on a greater-than-individual level. Players get dunked on by Embiid and remember it. Players don’t remember Jokic slicing apart their defense with excellent reads, or his great footwork when it comes to fronting on defense.

[eyeatoma]

But you don't need to be in here.

Tell that to everyone who comes in to complain when there is an Embiid thread.

Every "Embiid Fapping Thread" is started by you on this board, so, you bring it on yourself. Your fixation/total obsession with the guy is paranormal. You're blinded to every other superstar and you're a Stan in the purest sense of the term.

Lowest And 1 to post ratio of any member with 20,000+ posts.

That speaks volumes.

You think I care about And 1s lol?

[Ambrose]

Tell that to everyone who comes in to complain when there is an Embiid thread.

Every "Embiid Fapping Thread" is started by you on this board, so, you bring it on yourself. Your fixation/total obsession with the guy is paranormal. You're blinded to every other superstar and you're a Stan in the purest sense of the term.

Lowest And 1 to post ratio of any member with 20,000+ posts.

That speaks volumes.

You think I care about And 1s lol?

No. We know you just want to watch the world burn

[Big J]

The only way for Jokic to earn the respect of these folks who you are speaking of is to put his head down and win a ring. If he does that they won’t have anything bad to say about him. Until then he’s fair game.

[MrBigShot]

Using all star game draft for an argument...lol

Embiid's MVP is well deserved. But ask those guys privately who they want on their team to compete for a championship and they choose jokic everytime. He is just too damn good...you could not run a single play for him or let him post up one at all in a game and he'd still make magic happen and tear apart the defense.

[Pachinko_]

The only way for Jokic to earn the respect of these folks who you are speaking of is to put his head down and win a ring. If he does that they won’t have anything bad to say about him. Until then he’s fair game.

Maybe he should switch to ping pong then, because in basketball players don't win championships, only teams do.

Or, more conveniently, tell his manager he wants out of Denver. Because that is the only option the "rings" mentality is leaving him, isn't it?

Or, he can just not give a crap about the respect of "those folks" and keep doing what he does, which I think is great and admirable I hope he continues to do it.

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[Big J]

The only way for Jokic to earn the respect of these folks who you are speaking of is to put his head down and win a ring. If he does that they won’t have anything bad to say about him. Until then he’s fair game.

Maybe he should switch to ping pong then, because in basketball players don't win championships, only teams do.

Or, more conveniently, tell his manager he wants out of Denver. Because that is the only option the "rings" mentality is leaving him, isn't it?

Or, he can just not give a crap about the respect of "those folks" and keep doing what he does, which I think is great and admirable I hope he continues to do it.

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Look at all of the guys in the top 10 of all time. You can hate the ring mentality, but they all have one thing in common: rings.

[SlovenianDragon]

The only way for Jokic to earn the respect of these folks who you are speaking of is to put his head down and win a ring. If he does that they won’t have anything bad to say about him. Until then he’s fair game.

Maybe he should switch to ping pong then, because in basketball players don't win championships, only teams do.

Or, more conveniently, tell his manager he wants out of Denver. Because that is the only option the "rings" mentality is leaving him, isn't it?

Or, he can just not give a crap about the respect of "those folks" and keep doing what he does, which I think is great and admirable I hope he continues to do it.

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Look at all of the guys in the top 10 of all time. You can hate the ring mentality, but they all have one thing in common: rings.

There is no real "top 10" lol....

[Pachinko_]

The only way for Jokic to earn the respect of these folks who you are speaking of is to put his head down and win a ring. If he does that they won’t have anything bad to say about him. Until then he’s fair game.

Maybe he should switch to ping pong then, because in basketball players don't win championships, only teams do.

Or, more conveniently, tell his manager he wants out of Denver. Because that is the only option the "rings" mentality is leaving him, isn't it?

Or, he can just not give a crap about the respect of "those folks" and keep doing what he does, which I think is great and admirable I hope he continues to do it.

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Look at all of the guys in the top 10 of all time. You can hate the ring mentality, but they all have one thing in common: rings.

I don't hate it or love it, I don't really care tbh. I just find it amusing that the people who push players to join superteams are the same people who complain when players pull a Durant on them

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[Big J]

Maybe he should switch to ping pong then, because in basketball players don't win championships, only teams do.

Or, more conveniently, tell his manager he wants out of Denver. Because that is the only option the "rings" mentality is leaving him, isn't it?

Or, he can just not give a crap about the respect of "those folks" and keep doing what he does, which I think is great and admirable I hope he continues to do it.

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Look at all of the guys in the top 10 of all time. You can hate the ring mentality, but they all have one thing in common: rings.

I don't hate it or love it, I don't really care tbh. I just find it amusing that the people who push players to join superteams are the same people who complain when players pull a Durant on them

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Ah got it. Well, I'm not one of those people.

[ty 4191]

You think I care about And 1s lol?

Least insightful most "single agenda-driven"/myopic poster on this entire board. Everyone agrees. Hence, nobody likes you.

And the worst And 1 to post ratio of anyone as a result.

[HotRocks34]

Saying this over and over again doesn't make it true. Why did the PLAYERS pick Embiid by a 2 to 1 margin if this is SO "objectively true"? Why is Embiid ALWAYS the first pick in the All-Star draft as opposed to Jokic (who, I think was the LAST person picked)? Are NBA players - and NBA All-Stars like LeBron, KD and Steph - just idiots who simply aren't "approaching the debate objectively"? Huh?

NBA players, like other groups, aren't necessarily objective when it comes to their opinions.

That's why the MVP vote was taken from them about 40 years ago. They seemed to want to vote for Kareem almost every year.

[MetalFingaz]

Playoffs Jamal Murray is making me look dumb.

[Run DLC]

Get it done, Joker! End this false Kevin “best player in the league” Durant narrative once and for all. Tired of it.

[HotRocks34]

If you want to understand how poorly NBA players can judge their peers, just ask LeBron about Westbrook before Russ came to LA.

[HotRocks34]

More evidence of NBA players making questionable choices on who is better between two players.

https://www.normantranscript.com/sports/watch-trae-young-hits-game-winner-receives-support-from-other-nba-players-as-rookie-of/article_536faba2-4e42-11e9-be6f-17c8778a5de4.html

[Pelly24]

Ah, it's gonna be fun to watch the best player in the world close out the Suns today, regardless of how KD or Booker play. I'll tell ya what, if Booker goes 5/21, no chance nuggs lose

[dautjazz]

Jokic 7'2?! What? In heels?

Edits: Oops wrong thread lol