Wembanyama. I'm concerned
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We have to let Wemba take the time to learn the NBA...it's a big adaptation...I mean, even LBJ in his rookie season had some rough games like a game he was 2-13 for only 4 points and his team was 4-15 at the start...Same thing for Durant when his team lost 60 games in each of his first 2 seasons and his percentages from the field were rough in his rookie year
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JN61 wrote:He is way worse shooter than Westbrook ever was who has always been killed by everyone while a lot of his shooting is to keep defenders honest, and Westbrook never shot 3 pointers at this crazy rate, not ever close.
Never ever close?
Westbrook launched 7.2 per game in 2016/17.
Maybe get your facts straight before such a silly comment.
I’d also back Wemby to hit a wide open three over Westbrook.
Wembanyama can shoot. He just shoots at the wrong time.
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Phreak50 wrote:JN61 wrote:He is way worse shooter than Westbrook ever was who has always been killed by everyone while a lot of his shooting is to keep defenders honest, and Westbrook never shot 3 pointers at this crazy rate, not ever close.
Never ever close?
Westbrook launched 7.2 per game in 2016/17.
Maybe get your facts straight before such a silly comment.
I’d also back Wemby to hit a wide open three over Westbrook.
Wembanyama can shoot. He just shoots at the wrong time.
Read what I wrote. Wemby is shooting 3s at far higher rate than Westbrook ever did. Just because Westbrook had significantly higher volume doesn't mean his rate of scoring was higher from the position on the field. The rate Wemby has is terrible for his poor shooting skills. IF he would lower it to Westbrook's career avg he would be significantly more efficient scorer. And well as I wrote in my post he really shouldn't shoot more than 2 at all because he is poor shooter and he has elite height. Just get that butt inside and stop wasting time trying to be Kevin Durant wanna-be.
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
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JN61 wrote:[
Read what I wrote. Wemby is shooting at far higher rate than Westbrook ever did. Just because Westbrook had significantly higher volume doesn't mean his rate of scoring was higher from the position on the field. The rate Wemby has is terrible for his poor shooting skills. He he would lover it to Westbrook's career avg he would be significantly more efficient scorer. And well as I wrote in my post he really shouldn't shoot more than 2 at all because he is poor shooter and he has elite height. Just get that butt inside and stop wasting time trying to be Kevin Durant wanna-be.
You literally don’t know what you’re talking about.
In season 2016/17 Westbrook launched a three every 4.8 minutes.
Wembanyama is currently launching a three every 5.3 minutes.
You literally said Westbrook has never shot as much, “not ever close” yet facts show he indeed has shot more.
And stop this ‘Wemby wishes he had Westbrook’s career 3p % nonsense. Westbrook is barely at 30% through his career.
Wemby, a guy who you said can’t shoot is already at 28%.
I have no idea why you even compared the two in the first place, but I’ll bet my house Wemby finishes his career higher than 30%.
Perhaps log off.
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Wembanyama so far is the secret child of Manute Bol and Andrea Bargnani.
I doubt he will become what most of you expect of him
I doubt he will become what most of you expect of him
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Phreak50 wrote:JN61 wrote:[
Read what I wrote. Wemby is shooting at far higher rate than Westbrook ever did. Just because Westbrook had significantly higher volume doesn't mean his rate of scoring was higher from the position on the field. The rate Wemby has is terrible for his poor shooting skills. He he would lover it to Westbrook's career avg he would be significantly more efficient scorer. And well as I wrote in my post he really shouldn't shoot more than 2 at all because he is poor shooter and he has elite height. Just get that butt inside and stop wasting time trying to be Kevin Durant wanna-be.
You literally don’t know what you’re talking about.
In season 2016/17 Westbrook launched a three every 4.8 minutes.
Wembanyama is currently launching a three every 5.3 minutes.
You literally said Westbrook has never shot as much, “not ever close” yet facts show he indeed has shot more.
And stop this ‘Wemby wishes he had Westbrook’s career 3p % nonsense. Westbrook is barely at 30% through his career.
Wemby, a guy who you said can’t shoot is already at 28%.
I have no idea why you even compared the two in the first place, but I’ll bet my house Wemby finishes his career higher than 30%.
Perhaps log off.
Some people just can't help themselves can they? You just keep digging yourself in a hole and making yourself a fool after I politely asked you to re-read my post which was about the shooting rates. Not about the volumes. Now you are literally fighting against your own imaginary topic you got your knickers twisted around...
Wemby is shooting at 33.8% of all of his attempts from 3 point line
Westbrook's career high is 30% and average 20%...
This is what 3 point shooting rate means.
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
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He’s averaging 19/9 and is 3rd in the league in blocks, probably would be first if players were willing to shoot when they were near him more. The team is just starting to realize they should throw him lobs. His scoring will go up. It’s reasonable to think by the end of year 3 he will be averaging high 20s ppg, 12 or so rebounds and be the best defensive player in the league. I’m not concerned.
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JN61 wrote:He is chucking way too many 3s. He can't shoot... I'm fine him shooting 1-1.5 times per game from 3 point line but otherwise he should be inside scorer. He is way worse shooter than Westbrook ever was who has always been killed by everyone while a lot of his shooting is to keep defenders honest, and Westbrook never shot 3 pointers at this crazy rate, not ever close. Also there is no reason for Wemby to shoot to keep defenders honest from outside because his inside scoring is potentially so much more lethal because of his size and he is not the ballhandler/outside player like your PG is supposed to be.
Way too early to said that he can't shoot....I mean Kevin Durant was at 29% from 3 in his rookie season.Let this kid learn and adapt to the NBA!
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JN61 wrote:Phreak50 wrote:JN61 wrote:[
Read what I wrote. Wemby is shooting at far higher rate than Westbrook ever did. Just because Westbrook had significantly higher volume doesn't mean his rate of scoring was higher from the position on the field. The rate Wemby has is terrible for his poor shooting skills. He he would lover it to Westbrook's career avg he would be significantly more efficient scorer. And well as I wrote in my post he really shouldn't shoot more than 2 at all because he is poor shooter and he has elite height. Just get that butt inside and stop wasting time trying to be Kevin Durant wanna-be.
You literally don’t know what you’re talking about.
In season 2016/17 Westbrook launched a three every 4.8 minutes.
Wembanyama is currently launching a three every 5.3 minutes.
You literally said Westbrook has never shot as much, “not ever close” yet facts show he indeed has shot more.
And stop this ‘Wemby wishes he had Westbrook’s career 3p % nonsense. Westbrook is barely at 30% through his career.
Wemby, a guy who you said can’t shoot is already at 28%.
I have no idea why you even compared the two in the first place, but I’ll bet my house Wemby finishes his career higher than 30%.
Perhaps log off.
Some people just can't help themselves can they? You just keep digging yourself in a hole and making yourself a fool after I politely asked you to re-read my post which was about the shooting rates. Not about the volumes. Now you are literally fighting against your own imaginary topic you got your knickers twisted around...
Wemby is shooting at 33.8% of all of his attempts from 3 point line
Westbrook's career high is 30% and average 20%...
This is what 3 point shooting rate means.
Pretty sure shooting rates aren’t describing either of the things you guys are talking about lol.
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He's averaging 19/9 and 3 blocks as a 19 year old rookie and people are calling him Andrea Bargnani and Bol Bol. That's hilarious. He has ROTY on lockdown with Chet Holmgren a distant second.

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JN61 wrote:[quote="
Some people just can't help themselves can they? You just keep digging yourself in a hole and making yourself a fool after I politely asked you to re-read my post which was about the shooting rates. Not about the volumes. Now you are literally fighting against your own imaginary topic you got your knickers twisted around...
Wemby is shooting at 33.8% of all of his attempts from 3 point line
Westbrook's career high is 30% and average 20%...
This is what 3 point shooting rate means.
You are wrong.
You made a fool of yourself and have the nerve to act all high and mighty.
For the third time now, you literally said Westbrook was ‘not ever close’.
Sorry Einstein but 33 is pretty **** close to 30.
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levon wrote:Jadoogar wrote:this is quite obviously a reactionary thread.
He's playing with Jeremy Sochan as his point guard, he's adjusting to a new league, and the team is quite clearly tanking. Even with all that, he's had some monster performances. Rookies generally don't have a positive impact in the league, let alone in their first 10 games.
I mean, begs the question why he's playing with Jeremy Sochan as the point guard. I mean this tongue-in-cheek but if I was Pop and I wanted to discourage Wemby from free-wheeling on offense, I'd break his spirit by having Sochan be the point guard.
From what I've seen... Malaki Branham looks more like the PG than Sochan. Regardless, the point still stands. The rest of the post isn't really directed at you, it was just a convenient point to jump into the conversation.
Obviously, they want to get Vic more reps bringing the ball up the floor. It will always be a part of his game, but ultimately, I think they'll move him out of that role and it will simply be a tool in his box.
His jumper isn't falling, but I don't see anything broken, or a lack of touch. He just isn't taking great shots. It looks smooth to me. A nice weapon off the catch and 18' in right now. I doubt he reaches Dirk or Durant from the 3pt line, but 35% is perfectly acceptable and well within his reach.
Yeah, his handle is high, but he's 7'4". He has the flexibility and agility to get it down lower and he will.
I've never seen him as much of a playmaker, but maybe he starts looking around him and getting other guys involved. It took dudes like KD and Kawhi years to develop that aspect of their game.
His finishing will improve as the roster around him improves and guys learn how to take advantage of his height at the rim. I doubt any of his teammates have spent much time playing around someone his size.
His defense is the real deal. I haven't paid as much attention to his transition defense, but his half-court defense looks even better than I was expecting. When he plays close to the line, ball-handlers simply have no choice but to swing the ball around him. Players avoid him. They take one look in front of them and realize they aren't getting anything around him. His length is enough to easily cover two players. He's going to be like a better Gobert or AD in the way they cover ground from the perimeter all the way to the rim.
Dude just needs to get some reps and eat some food. He's gonna be a beast. The expectations from guys in the Wemby Prediction thread thinking he was going to come out of the gate averaging 22+ points and 4+ assists were never realistic.
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His three point % will improve when he gets a PG.
Also, he floats to much. He needs to go from A to A, land where he jumped. That’ll bump his % up too.
It’s there. Just needs refining.
Also, he floats to much. He needs to go from A to A, land where he jumped. That’ll bump his % up too.
It’s there. Just needs refining.
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Wemby's not the issue. It's more that Pop has already checked out and the team around him is pretty poop.

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The Spurs first and foremost need to make sure that in the future the 2nd best player in their roster is a elite scoring first PG.
Even Jokic needs his Murray and Giannis needs a servicable on offense Jrue(2021) and now Lillard and those guys are the two best players in their prime. Shaq needed his Kobe too. Imagine 19y Wemby. A big can't do it by himself no matter his style of play.
Even Jokic needs his Murray and Giannis needs a servicable on offense Jrue(2021) and now Lillard and those guys are the two best players in their prime. Shaq needed his Kobe too. Imagine 19y Wemby. A big can't do it by himself no matter his style of play.
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote: I think that we will do worse than last season and that Giannis is now just a mere all star. All because we switched from Bud to Griffin.
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Wargreymon wrote:He's averaging 19/9 and 3 blocks as a 19 year old rookie and people are calling him Andrea Bargnani and Bol Bol. That's hilarious. He has ROTY on lockdown with Chet Holmgren a distant second.
Exactly...and he isn't even playing that well yet

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Bornstellar wrote:Wargreymon wrote:He's averaging 19/9 and 3 blocks as a 19 year old rookie and people are calling him Andrea Bargnani and Bol Bol. That's hilarious. He has ROTY on lockdown with Chet Holmgren a distant second.
Exactly...and he isn't even playing that well yetpeople think Chet having a nice game while he plays as a third option with a legit superstar player next to him while Wemby has no one and has to shoulder the entire offense and defense by himself makes Chet the frontrunner...put Chet in Wemby's place and Spurs are probably 1-13 right now
You really think ROTY is locked up?
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Wemby will be fine...Hes already showed hes got the style of game for this Era and is well on his way to being one of the most skilled players in the game already....He is playing with a bad team....It will take a few right moves by the Spurs to put a team around Wemby for us to see his true potential as a player...Give him a good PG to play with at least....

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He's certainly looked more like a rookie than some may have hoped, but I don't think there's any real concern here.
Defense is already very good, relatively minor awareness/experience gains and he could be the best defender in the league easily.
They're letting him experiment on O, and that's fine for a bad team. Surround him with better pieces and rein him in a bit on that end and it'll be okay.
Defense is already very good, relatively minor awareness/experience gains and he could be the best defender in the league easily.
They're letting him experiment on O, and that's fine for a bad team. Surround him with better pieces and rein him in a bit on that end and it'll be okay.
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Wargreymon wrote:He's averaging 19/9 and 3 blocks as a 19 year old rookie and people are calling him Andrea Bargnani and Bol Bol. That's hilarious. He has ROTY on lockdown with Chet Holmgren a distant second.
How? Chet is averaging only 2PPG less on far far far better efficiency (55% vs 43%FG; 44% vs 28% 3PFG). They play the same amount of minutes. Wemby has slightly more blocks (2.6 vs 2.2). I think right now Holmgreen is better than Wemby and should be ahead as ROY. Now this might still change although I don t think it will due to my previous efficiency concerns about Wemby.