What is a TRAVEL in the NBA?

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Is this a legal basketball move?

Poll ended at Mon Jan 8, 2024 8:08 pm

It's an obvious travel
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It's hard to say in real time
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The play is legal; now stop creating stupid threads in GB.
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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#201 » by og15 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:31 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:That's called a double-dribble on every playground in America...but NOT the NBA?

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The logic there would be that he fumbled the ball and didn't actually have control of it, until when he grabs it with two hands and dribbles, which, yea, I can see. Of course one can say, "well you can just fake to fumble so you can get more leeway" but the rule books do leave that up to the judgment of officials. Also most times faking to fumble is not helping you (other times it could, eg: coming to a stop after dribbling, this specific play not so much)

You could argue that a fumble should be considered a dribble and you shouldn't be able to recover and dribble, I can see that argument and logic.

Section XVIII—Fumble

A player who is holding the ball and fumbles it out of his control may recover the ball.
If his pivot foot moves to recover the ball, he must then pass or shoot the ball. If he fumbles
and recovers it without moving his pivot foot and before the ball touches the floor, he retains
his status before the fumble.

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Kuzma didn't have any pivot, he fumbles the ball when trying to catch it, then he is initially unable to control it as it bounces off his arm, so he retains his status to dribble, but a ref might look at the replay and say he had control, but it does look like that's what happens, at least in real time.
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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#202 » by Lalouie » Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:16 pm

give an inch and they take a mile

can today's player even get past half court if refs started calling what's supposed to be called

the dude didn't have to triple step. he was open already. he did it because it's a habit
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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#203 » by MavsDirk41 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:17 pm

Bane took 4 steps lol - thats the modern nba and Harden started it
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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#204 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:35 pm

The move that pretty much opened the flood gates for travelling today...



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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#205 » by Nate505 » Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:12 pm

If these guys are so supremely skilled as everyone says they are, why do the refs need to be so lax on travels, palming, illegal screens, and double dribbles.
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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#206 » by knicksfan974 » Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:24 pm

Guys don't forget the NBA is entertainment league first, sports league second. Enforcing all the little rules like travel is not entertaining so you shouldn't really even expect that.
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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#207 » by Dennis 37 » Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:07 pm

pipfan wrote:This is what I dislike most about the league right now-the ignoring of obvious travels and carries. It's really getting out of hand


What is ridiculous is refs ate so anal about any miniscule movement before starting the dribble.

I don't see a slight stutter step creating an advantage, but extra steps after the gather definitely does.
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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#208 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Mar 4, 2025 3:41 pm

It's legitimately a problem.
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Post#209 » by ItsDanger » Tue Mar 4, 2025 3:59 pm

Whatever the refs decide that night. The blatant carrying is really bad currently. But they're more skilled supposedly.
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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#210 » by hippesthippo » Tue Mar 4, 2025 3:59 pm

theforumblue wrote:Gather, one, two shot. Legal. Way they call travel has changed. Get over it already.


This is at least gather, 1, 2, 3, shoot. At first, I thought it may even be 4 steps, but the replay does show him still gathering on the first.

Players have become really good at taking advantage of the fact that refs no longer call carries. By abusing carrying, they can make the "gathering" of the ball last for 2, 3, 4, 5+ steps. However, I still think this particularly play from Bane is a bad example and should have been called.

It's not just a traveling problem.
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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#211 » by xdrta+ » Tue Mar 4, 2025 4:05 pm

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Kerr also said his own team is just as guilty as the rest.

After watching film, the coach said he saw his own team travel four times in Saturday night’s loss to Philadelphia. None of them were called.
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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#212 » by carlquincy » Tue Mar 4, 2025 4:26 pm

I hate the gather step.
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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#213 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Mar 4, 2025 4:32 pm

donkki wrote:Guys don't forget the NBA is entertainment league first, sports league second. Enforcing all the little rules like travel is not entertaining so you shouldn't really even expect that.


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If I only wanted the entertainment aspect, I'd go watch the Globetrotters, the Big 3 or the And-1 Tour.


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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#214 » by mastermixer » Tue Mar 4, 2025 4:56 pm

donkki wrote:Guys don't forget the NBA is entertainment league first, sports league second. Enforcing all the little rules like travel is not entertaining so you shouldn't really even expect that.


I kinda hate this logic. The players only blatantly do it because they know they can get away with it.

If the refs started calling it, and told the teams it’s a “point of emphasis” in the offseason, the players wouldn’t do it thus the refs wouldn’t have to be “enforcing all these little rules.”
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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#215 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:19 pm

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Post#216 » by Accurim » Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:18 am

first post isnt a travel in 2025 nba. watch mdwbasketball on ig if you actually want to learn gather timing and then the counting of the 1-2.

now i think what most ppl dont like is... would it be called a travel in 2010? yes.
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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#217 » by Lalouie » Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:01 am

a travel is whatever looks funny

because the lines are so blurred essentially the eyeball test is the answer

similarly, clumsy players look and play clumsy. some guys get called and some guys don't. it's the eyeball test. the other point would be, did the player get an advantage. in this case, he didn't. i think if a defender was in his shorts he would get called
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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#218 » by fansse » Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:47 am

I mean just look at tonight.. Haliburton clearly travels on the game winner and no call. It’s not like it’s hard to see. For some reasons, refs that are supposed to be the best in the world are not calling it.
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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#219 » by LockoutSeason » Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:27 am

fansse wrote:I mean just look at tonight.. Haliburton clearly travels on the game winner and no call. It’s not like it’s hard to see. For some reasons, refs that are supposed to be the best in the world are not calling it.


Not a travel. Halliburton got called for a travel on the play before.

If you stop crying wolf the refs will start calling the actual ones.
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Re: What is a TRAVEL in the NBA? 

Post#220 » by Ruma85 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:02 am

carlquincy wrote:I hate the gather step.


I was 16, when I first learned the gather step, it took 2 months for me to rewire my brain from all time I was training, you're basically telling yourself isn't this a travel. :lol:
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