The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health

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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#201 » by dygaction » Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:07 pm

picc wrote:This is why I don't care that he misses all these games and its stupid to think he's ducking anyone. This is a perpetually injured 7ft+ player, the smart thing to do is be as prudent and cautious as possible about his health and not give a damn what entitled fans think.


The entitled fans are people who hype him up, pay the tickets, and make TV deals worthy of the price.
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Post#202 » by picc » Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:19 pm

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picc wrote:This is why I don't care that he misses all these games and its stupid to think he's ducking anyone. This is a perpetually injured 7ft+ player, the smart thing to do is be as prudent and cautious as possible about his health and not give a damn what entitled fans think.


The entitled fans are people who hype him up, pay the tickets, and make TV deals worthy of the price.


And then tank the teams season by shaming a player who shouldnt be on the court into playing a meaningless reg season game and making things worse.

Congratulations.
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Post#203 » by ForeverTFC » Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:23 pm

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eyeatoma wrote:Problem with that is the ducking allegations won't stop. Embiid is damned if he does or doesn't.

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If what people said on the internet bothered me so much I think I'd do myself a favor and take a break from the internet.

There are more important things, in life in general but also in sports. The fact the people have opinions and say bothersome things should not impact the decisions made by a pro sports team when it comes to the health of their franchise player.

And I know you think the other 98% of people around here are the cause of this "toxic" discourse when it comes to Embiid, but I swear, every time it seems like things are settling down you show up and say something 98% of people think is ridiculous and it starts all over again. I really think you'd have a better day if you just let these threads die instead of responding to every post and introducing new things for people to roll their eyes at. Just my take.
I'm not the only one saying this lol. The Athletic had an article talking about the public pressure.

Hard for him to ignore this when you have Nuggets reporters asking Nurse if Joel skipping games is a result of his character.

This is the media as well. In post game...

Read on Twitter
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The media? That's a Philly guy covering the Sixers.

I'm sorry, but how was Embiid pressured to play in this game? He skipped the last 2, didn't he? Wouldn't it have proved "the discourse merchants" wrong if he actually sat for the 3rd game?

BTW - if Philly fans want to take this line, they better apologize to Ben Simmons before coming after the rest of us in defense of their unlikeable star.
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Post#204 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:26 pm

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eyeatoma wrote:
bisme37 wrote:
If what people said on the internet bothered me so much I think I'd do myself a favor and take a break from the internet.

There are more important things, in life in general but also in sports. The fact the people have opinions and say bothersome things should not impact the decisions made by a pro sports team when it comes to the health of their franchise player.

And I know you think the other 98% of people around here are the cause of this "toxic" discourse when it comes to Embiid, but I swear, every time it seems like things are settling down you show up and say something 98% of people think is ridiculous and it starts all over again. I really think you'd have a better day if you just let these threads die instead of responding to every post and introducing new things for people to roll their eyes at. Just my take.
I'm not the only one saying this lol. The Athletic had an article talking about the public pressure.

Hard for him to ignore this when you have Nuggets reporters asking Nurse if Joel skipping games is a result of his character.

This is the media as well. In post game...

Read on Twitter
?t=KggPONcIWnqXkFVh4bKpug&s=19

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The media? That's a Philly guy covering the Sixers.

I'm sorry, but how was Embiid pressured to play in this game? He skipped the last 2, didn't he? Wouldn't it have proved "the discourse merchants" wrong if he actually sat for the 3rd game?

BTW - if Philly fans want to take this line, they better apologize to Ben Simmons before coming after the rest of us in defense of their unlikeable star.
He's talking about a nuggets reporter.

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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#205 » by losmi » Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:26 pm

picc wrote:
dygaction wrote:
picc wrote:This is why I don't care that he misses all these games and its stupid to think he's ducking anyone. This is a perpetually injured 7ft+ player, the smart thing to do is be as prudent and cautious as possible about his health and not give a damn what entitled fans think.


The entitled fans are people who hype him up, pay the tickets, and make TV deals worthy of the price.


And then tank the teams season by shaming a player who shouldnt be on the court into playing a meaningless reg season game and making things worse.

Congratulations.


It makes zero sense to think that anyone or anything forced Embiid to play that game other than his obsession with regular season awards.
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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#206 » by ForeverTFC » Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:29 pm

picc wrote:
dygaction wrote:
picc wrote:This is why I don't care that he misses all these games and its stupid to think he's ducking anyone. This is a perpetually injured 7ft+ player, the smart thing to do is be as prudent and cautious as possible about his health and not give a damn what entitled fans think.


The entitled fans are people who hype him up, pay the tickets, and make TV deals worthy of the price.


And then tank the teams season by shaming a player who shouldnt be on the court into playing a meaningless reg season game and making things worse.

Congratulations.


Who shamed Joel Embiid into playing? Did he play against the team doctor's orders?

Everyone went off on him for ducking Jokic and Denver again. No one cared about the game after, and if he was truly injured, sitting out the following game would have proved others wrong, not going out there to play.
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Post#207 » by dygaction » Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:33 pm

picc wrote:
dygaction wrote:
picc wrote:This is why I don't care that he misses all these games and its stupid to think he's ducking anyone. This is a perpetually injured 7ft+ player, the smart thing to do is be as prudent and cautious as possible about his health and not give a damn what entitled fans think.


The entitled fans are people who hype him up, pay the tickets, and make TV deals worthy of the price.


And then tank the teams season by shaming a player who shouldnt be on the court into playing a meaningless reg season game and making things worse.

Congratulations.


The fans want to see the highest level play from the best players, nothing wrong. It is the pro-athletes, their coach, medical staff, PR... who are all paid much higher than the fans that make the actual best judged decisions. This injury has nothing to do with existing one, as stated, a player fell on his leg on the ground.
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Post#208 » by Exp0sed » Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:33 pm

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Dude - this isn't that hard. I am sure he wanted to play. He knew the basketball world was pumping up the rematch. But he hurt his knee the prior Thursday in Indiana...the same knee that has bothered him for YEARS. I think he had every intention of going, and told the Sixers staff he intended to play (which is why he didn't show up on the injury report). But the medical staff didn't like the way he looked pregame. I bet there was a battle right up to the tip - before the medical folks said no.


If this is the case why didn’t the medical staff stop him from playing against the Warriors? Is looked bad from the start. Did he overrule them? Did the coach?


idk, I was at work so didn't catch the 76ers game yesterday
I just rewatched the first quarter and Embiid is moving around just fine..looks a bit rusty on his jumpshot but that's to be expected after missing a couple. I don't any issue with his movement, not a major one anyways that's for sure

what did u see that u classify as "looked bad from the start"? he looks fine to me..
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Post#209 » by Nuntius » Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:50 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:BTW - if Philly fans want to take this line, they better apologize to Ben Simmons before coming after the rest of us in defense of their unlikeable star.


Eyeatoma did admit that he was wrong on that. And he is one of the few people on this long, long, long list of people who doubted Simmons' injuries who actually did admit that they were wrong. I do have to give him props for that.
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Post#210 » by mkot » Thu Feb 1, 2024 12:03 am

A guy nickname himself Troel Embiid is blaming the social media :nonono:

First it's the medial staff not putting him in the injury report, now it's the world. Hey I got news for you, if you miss 4 (or 5?) straight games in Denver, you gonna have people questions about your toughness and competitiveness and where your heart is really at in this game. Is it about winning for your team/fans/organization or for yourself? Even Sixers fan have to admit it wasn't a good look.

My questions about his heart and toughness remains, not about his talent and skills.

I always thought he is too good to not break through in his prime years but after his 'odd' behavior, to put it mildly, so far I just don't think if he will ever gets it. He is turning 30 and injury prone, it's a shame.

I hope he is okay and we can see him have an injury free playoffs run for once.
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Post#211 » by ghillphx » Thu Feb 1, 2024 12:42 am

GrandTheftRondo wrote:Forget about all the ducking stuff, there’s something far more concerning going on here.

Do the Sixers even care about Embiid’s long term health?

This is a team that has routinely had a banged up Embiid at the pointy end of the season.

Yet here we are in February in a season where Embiid’s main goal really should be to prove himself in the playoffs and he’s out here hobbling on one leg in a random regular season game.

Then over the past few weeks they’ve put him back in games to chase meaningless streaks after he’s injured himself only to miss games after.

Either Embiid is far too obsessed with the MVP or the Sixers medical staff are just really stupid.

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a team with so little regard for the long term health of their star player, particularly one so injury prone.


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Post#212 » by Bum Adebayo » Thu Feb 1, 2024 12:56 am

Many fans actually pressured him to play the Denver game, this is undeniable and anyone that says this is wrong is lying. However, Embiid didn't have the same pressure to play the Warriors game, this is where the disconnect lies. The narrative against him is mainly that he cannot play (or perform well) in Denver and especially that he is a playoff choker. He changes nothing of that by playing the game against Warriors.
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Post#213 » by 76ersForLife » Thu Feb 1, 2024 3:44 am

The 76ers have always been clueless with how they have handled Embiid.

Remember Doc Rivers still had him in the game up 30 with 4 minutes left of the clinching playoff game against Toronto. He proceeded to have his face broken by a Siakam elbow and missed time and wasn't the same against Miami in round 2 playing with a fractured face.
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Post#214 » by Exp0sed » Thu Feb 1, 2024 4:02 am

Bum Adebayo wrote:Many fans actually pressured him to play the Denver game, this is undeniable and anyone that says this is wrong is lying. However, Embiid didn't have the same pressure to play the Warriors game, this is where the disconnect lies. The narrative against him is mainly that he cannot play (or perform well) in Denver and especially that he is a playoff choker. He changes nothing of that by playing the game against Warriors.


not to mention his injury has nothing to do with his earlier injury
I don't undesrstand what ppl are even debating itt tbh..

as usual when Embiid loses or is about to lose the call he either flops, yells or falls to the ground (sometimes a combination of all 3), so he throws his fragile body out there, Kuminga falls on him and Mr made of glass is injured again

what does that have to do with ducking Denver or the pressure that came because if it? did the pressure cause him to fall to the ground or caused Kuming to fall on his knee?
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Post#215 » by RB34 » Thu Feb 1, 2024 4:06 am

Exp0sed wrote:
RB34 wrote:
bebopdeluxe wrote:
Dude - this isn't that hard. I am sure he wanted to play. He knew the basketball world was pumping up the rematch. But he hurt his knee the prior Thursday in Indiana...the same knee that has bothered him for YEARS. I think he had every intention of going, and told the Sixers staff he intended to play (which is why he didn't show up on the injury report). But the medical staff didn't like the way he looked pregame. I bet there was a battle right up to the tip - before the medical folks said no.


If this is the case why didn’t the medical staff stop him from playing against the Warriors? Is looked bad from the start. Did he overrule them? Did the coach?


idk, I was at work so didn't catch the 76ers game yesterday
I just rewatched the first quarter and Embiid is moving around just fine..looks a bit rusty on his jumpshot but that's to be expected after missing a couple. I don't any issue with his movement, not a major one anyways that's for sure

what did u see that u classify as "looked bad from the start"? he looks fine to me..


He just looked shaky to me straight away. Did have the same pop and he was bricking which is unusual for him this season.
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Post#216 » by ForeverTFC » Thu Feb 1, 2024 4:13 am

Exp0sed wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:Many fans actually pressured him to play the Denver game, this is undeniable and anyone that says this is wrong is lying. However, Embiid didn't have the same pressure to play the Warriors game, this is where the disconnect lies. The narrative against him is mainly that he cannot play (or perform well) in Denver and especially that he is a playoff choker. He changes nothing of that by playing the game against Warriors.


not to mention his injury has nothing to do with his earlier injury
I don't undesrstand what ppl are even debating itt tbh..

as usual when Embiid loses or is about to lose the call he either flops, yells or falls to the ground (sometimes a combination of all 3), so he throws his fragile body out there, Kuminga falls on him and Mr made of glass is injured again

what does that have to do with ducking Denver or the pressure that came because if it? did the pressure cause him to fall to the ground or caused Kuming to fall on his knee?


The gaslighting out of Philly is really out of control
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Post#217 » by Chokic » Thu Feb 1, 2024 4:24 am

ForeverTFC wrote:
Exp0sed wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:Many fans actually pressured him to play the Denver game, this is undeniable and anyone that says this is wrong is lying. However, Embiid didn't have the same pressure to play the Warriors game, this is where the disconnect lies. The narrative against him is mainly that he cannot play (or perform well) in Denver and especially that he is a playoff choker. He changes nothing of that by playing the game against Warriors.


not to mention his injury has nothing to do with his earlier injury
I don't undesrstand what ppl are even debating itt tbh..

as usual when Embiid loses or is about to lose the call he either flops, yells or falls to the ground (sometimes a combination of all 3), so he throws his fragile body out there, Kuminga falls on him and Mr made of glass is injured again

what does that have to do with ducking Denver or the pressure that came because if it? did the pressure cause him to fall to the ground or caused Kuming to fall on his knee?


The gaslighting out of Philly is really out of control



The pressure to play against the warriors was a result of the constant backlash he was getting from fans and media about not playing in denver. And Mike Malone's dumb a** calling for the league to investigate him to plant a seed of a "ducking" narrative for the media to use against him. If nobody says anything he has no reason to force himself to play when he shouldn't.
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Post#218 » by ForeverTFC » Thu Feb 1, 2024 4:55 am

Chokic wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:
Exp0sed wrote:
not to mention his injury has nothing to do with his earlier injury
I don't undesrstand what ppl are even debating itt tbh..

as usual when Embiid loses or is about to lose the call he either flops, yells or falls to the ground (sometimes a combination of all 3), so he throws his fragile body out there, Kuminga falls on him and Mr made of glass is injured again

what does that have to do with ducking Denver or the pressure that came because if it? did the pressure cause him to fall to the ground or caused Kuming to fall on his knee?


The gaslighting out of Philly is really out of control



The pressure to play against the warriors was a result of the constant backlash he was getting from fans and media about not playing in denver. And Mike Malone's dumb a** calling for the league to investigate him to plant a seed of a "ducking" narrative for the media to use against him. If nobody says anything he has no reason to force himself to play when he shouldn't.


If he's injured, and wants to prove he's injured, why would he play injured? No one is questioning his toughness to play through injury nor are they asking that he do that. They question is why he doesn't play in Denver. How does playing in SF answer that question in any way one way or the other?

Also, are we supposed to pretend this was not said by Nurse?
Nick Nurse said that Joel Embiid's injury which forced the center to leave the Philadelphia 76ers' loss to the Golden State Warriors in the fourth quarter was not related to the center's previous knee injury that held him out in recent games.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/274488/Joel-Embiid-Injury-Not-Related-To-Recent-Knee-Issue-Will-Get-MRI

So from hereon out, if Embiid gets injured anywhere, for any reason, it's because we questioned why he doesn't play in Denver? The Embiid PR logic is not logicing.
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Post#219 » by Exp0sed » Thu Feb 1, 2024 5:02 am

Chokic wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:
Exp0sed wrote:
not to mention his injury has nothing to do with his earlier injury
I don't undesrstand what ppl are even debating itt tbh..

as usual when Embiid loses or is about to lose the call he either flops, yells or falls to the ground (sometimes a combination of all 3), so he throws his fragile body out there, Kuminga falls on him and Mr made of glass is injured again

what does that have to do with ducking Denver or the pressure that came because if it? did the pressure cause him to fall to the ground or caused Kuming to fall on his knee?


The gaslighting out of Philly is really out of control



The pressure to play against the warriors was a result of the constant backlash he was getting from fans and media about not playing in denver. And Mike Malone's dumb a** calling for the league to investigate him to plant a seed of a "ducking" narrative for the media to use against him. If nobody says anything he has no reason to force himself to play when he shouldn't.


why shouldn't he tho? he looked fine
the Kuminga incident had nothing to do with the so-called pressure
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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#220 » by GrandTheftRondo » Thu Feb 1, 2024 5:05 am

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Not sure how you can say he ducked given how he just played though man. Two games off, and he looks horrible prior to Kuminga landing on him.

Read on Twitter


The man could not jump, and was doing 720s at one point so he wouldn't plant on that leg.


Yikes that looks terrible. Sorry eyeatoma and Sixers fans. Hope he gets right.


Respect, bro. You have been here a long time and I always respect your takes - even if you are a Celtics fan.

;-)

For the rest of the GB who f'k'n buried Embiid for not playing Saturday night (ducking Jokic again), it is crystal clear now that he was hurt, and as this Sam Amick report in The Athletic suggests, the reason he tried to play last night was because of how much the national media (and the folks here on the GB) was crushing the guy for not playing.

https://theathletic.com/5240548/2024/01/31/joel-embiid-knee-injury-nba-65-game-rule/?source=emp_shared_article

HE. WAS. HURT.

So, I will now see how many others are as classy as bisme and apologize for their brutal takes on the guy.

If Embiid is stupid enough to play injured and the Sixers are stupid enough to allow him because they’re worried about some narrative then the Sixers organisation is even stupider than I thought

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