JJ Redick will be in the running for COY

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Re: JJ Redick will be in the running for COY 

Post#201 » by sikma42 » Tue Dec 3, 2024 12:55 pm

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Very interesting stats on the lakers best 3 man lineups.

The top 8 3 man lineups all include DLo (all positive plus/minus). No 3 man lineup with Austin Reaves has a positive plus/minus.

Hope we go back to following the data!


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It's SUPER obvious that DLO has been a positive for the Lakers ever since he's joined. He's won a bunch of games single-handedly and creative enough off the dribble to score in bunches. Remember him cooking Memphis in multiple games on solo runs.

However, D'Lo is on Bron's and Reddicks **** forever though after he made it very clear that he wasn't playing PG when the media asked him. Basically validated how he was being relegated to a 'shooter role' to accommodate Lebron's game. Media COMPLETELY tuned on him for this. Now, JJ has DLO on a short leash even though he's better than Lebron as of late.

Bron fans are the most vicious towards DLO after he has his best games. Lol. Dude needs to leave ASAP

JJ keeping DLo on the court with GLeague players while 25 and 4 mins left was telling. It was a message. He is making the same mistakes new coaches and bad coaches make.


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Re: JJ Redick will be in the running for COY 

Post#202 » by Lockdown504090 » Tue Dec 3, 2024 1:19 pm

sikma42 wrote:
Camby_Bamby wrote:
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Very interesting stats on the lakers best 3 man lineups.

The top 8 3 man lineups all include DLo (all positive plus/minus). No 3 man lineup with Austin Reaves has a positive plus/minus.

Hope we go back to following the data!


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It's SUPER obvious that DLO has been a positive for the Lakers ever since he's joined. He's won a bunch of games single-handedly and creative enough off the dribble to score in bunches. Remember him cooking Memphis in multiple games on solo runs.

However, D'Lo is on Bron's and Reddicks **** forever though after he made it very clear that he wasn't playing PG when the media asked him. Basically validated how he was being relegated to a 'shooter role' to accommodate Lebron's game. Media COMPLETELY tuned on him for this. Now, JJ has DLO on a short leash even though he's better than Lebron as of late.

Bron fans are the most vicious towards DLO after he has his best games. Lol. Dude needs to leave ASAP

JJ keeping DLo on the court with GLeague players while 25 and 4 mins left was telling. It was a message. He is making the same mistakes new coaches and bad coaches make.


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There are many reasons to do this. Keep his confidence high by have him lead lesser players is the most glaring reason. To have them work on a skill we have discussed prior or see something that I want to show the player. If you are asking why he’s not starting it’s because he can’t guard. If he wants to start l, lift some weights and get better on defense. 3 player lineup data isn’t worth a damn. It’s 5 on 5
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Re: JJ Redick will be in the running for COY 

Post#203 » by Camby_Bamby » Tue Dec 3, 2024 1:27 pm

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It's SUPER obvious that DLO has been a positive for the Lakers ever since he's joined. He's won a bunch of games single-handedly and creative enough off the dribble to score in bunches. Remember him cooking Memphis in multiple games on solo runs.

However, D'Lo is on Bron's and Reddicks **** forever though after he made it very clear that he wasn't playing PG when the media asked him. Basically validated how he was being relegated to a 'shooter role' to accommodate Lebron's game. Media COMPLETELY tuned on him for this. Now, JJ has DLO on a short leash even though he's better than Lebron as of late.

Bron fans are the most vicious towards DLO after he has his best games. Lol. Dude needs to leave ASAP

JJ keeping DLo on the court with GLeague players while 25 and 4 mins left was telling. It was a message. He is making the same mistakes new coaches and bad coaches make.


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There are many reasons to do this. Keep his confidence high by have him lead lesser players is the most glaring reason. To have them work on a skill we have discussed prior or see something that I want to show the player. If you are asking why he’s not starting it’s because he can’t guard. If he wants to start l, lift some weights and get better on defense. 3 player lineup data isn’t worth a damn. It’s 5 on 5


Can't use defense as the metric if LeBron is getting that many minutes. DLO is currently the better player of defense and offense.
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Re: JJ Redick will be in the running for COY 

Post#204 » by sikma42 » Tue Dec 3, 2024 4:02 pm

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sikma42 wrote:
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It's SUPER obvious that DLO has been a positive for the Lakers ever since he's joined. He's won a bunch of games single-handedly and creative enough off the dribble to score in bunches. Remember him cooking Memphis in multiple games on solo runs.

However, D'Lo is on Bron's and Reddicks **** forever though after he made it very clear that he wasn't playing PG when the media asked him. Basically validated how he was being relegated to a 'shooter role' to accommodate Lebron's game. Media COMPLETELY tuned on him for this. Now, JJ has DLO on a short leash even though he's better than Lebron as of late.

Bron fans are the most vicious towards DLO after he has his best games. Lol. Dude needs to leave ASAP

JJ keeping DLo on the court with GLeague players while 25 and 4 mins left was telling. It was a message. He is making the same mistakes new coaches and bad coaches make.


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There are many reasons to do this. Keep his confidence high by have him lead lesser players is the most glaring reason. To have them work on a skill we have discussed prior or see something that I want to show the player. If you are asking why he’s not starting it’s because he can’t guard. If he wants to start l, lift some weights and get better on defense. 3 player lineup data isn’t worth a damn. It’s 5 on 5


You think a former NBA all-star has his confidence raised by garbage time with Max Lewis and other GLeague guys? Especially after you benched him and have been throwing tantrums on the court when he makes any mistake.
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Re: JJ Redick will be in the running for COY 

Post#205 » by Lockdown504090 » Tue Dec 3, 2024 4:15 pm

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sikma42 wrote:JJ keeping DLo on the court with GLeague players while 25 and 4 mins left was telling. It was a message. He is making the same mistakes new coaches and bad coaches make.


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There are many reasons to do this. Keep his confidence high by have him lead lesser players is the most glaring reason. To have them work on a skill we have discussed prior or see something that I want to show the player. If you are asking why he’s not starting it’s because he can’t guard. If he wants to start l, lift some weights and get better on defense. 3 player lineup data isn’t worth a damn. It’s 5 on 5


You think a former NBA all-star has his confidence raised by garbage time with Max Lewis and other GLeague guys? Especially after you benched him and have been throwing tantrums on the court when he makes any mistake.

these players ego are much more fragile than I think the average fan realizes. You can literally stroke some of these guys by putting them in that situation and its worked for years. the level of talent is very similar across guys, situation and mental space are really where guys seperate themselves. what we are discussing has mixed results, but has worked for some players. Playing with lebron is very challenging for point guards, Giannis has the same effect. in the same game he has to go from playing off of lebron, to having lebron play off him, or play without him all together.
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Re: JJ Redick will be in the running for COY 

Post#206 » by Revived » Tue Dec 3, 2024 4:20 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Is there another podcaster the Lakers can try? This one seems like he has never coached before.

Lakers next coach needs to be Mark Jackson. He’s a Klutch guy too.
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Post#207 » by Tottery » Tue Dec 3, 2024 4:24 pm

Dlo was bricking and air balling shots up until the last 3 games. Thats why he was moved to the bench. Their longest win streak happened with him coming off the bench. Some folks purposely have a short-term memory so they can hate on someone. They are also riddled with injuries to the point of having to pull multiple players from the G League.

That said, I believe it's time to shorten LBJ's minutes to 24-28 minutes a game and miss some back to backs. Problem is the organization won't allow that because he sells so many tickets.
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Post#208 » by Tottery » Tue Dec 3, 2024 4:41 pm

doogie_hauser wrote:I saw JJ's appointment as a sign that the Lakers F/O and ownership are finally preparing for life post Lebron and maybe AD.

He wasn't appointed because he was Lebron's friend, if the Lakers were serious about trying for another chip, they would have hired Bud

The undeniable reality is that things (on court) will get worse for the Lakers over the next few years before they get better, and that is okay


Glad someone else sees that. It was glaring pre-season when he and Pelinka were constantly talking about player development for the young players and the future. JJ is a young coach who can grow as well. He was a future move. I wouldn't be surprised if they make no trades that require losing 1st round picks.
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Post#209 » by ConSarnit » Tue Dec 3, 2024 4:51 pm

Tottery wrote:Dlo was bricking and air balling shots up until the last 3 games. Thats why he was moved to the bench. Their longest win streak happened with him coming off the bench. Some folks purposely have a short-term memory so they can hate on someone. They are also riddled with injuries to the point of having to pull multiple players from the G League.

That said, I believe it's time to shorten LBJ's minutes to 24-28 minutes a game and miss some back to backs. Problem is the organization won't allow that because he sells so many tickets.


How do you shorten Lebron's minutes without playing DLo more? The Lakers have known they need to reduce the load on Lebron for years (see the ill-advised Westbrook move). They have 2 options: play Reaves more (already at 34mpg) or play DLo more. If the Lakers have any interest in saving Lebron's legs they are going to have to play DLo more or trade him for another ball-handler. I doubt Ham really wanted to play DLo a lot but they don't have any other options.

The Lakers pretty much have 2 choices: play DLo more and live with the outcome or run Lebron into the ground.
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Post#210 » by Liam_Gallagher » Tue Dec 3, 2024 6:03 pm

Time to change direction. The assets the Lakers want to trade really will not bring back players that will make a difference. A Pau Gasol trade ain't happening. Get Bron to OK a trade to Golden State. Take a step back but start a semi rebuild sooner vs later.
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Post#211 » by Revived » Tue Dec 3, 2024 11:20 pm

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Lockdown504090 wrote:
sikma42 wrote:JJ keeping DLo on the court with GLeague players while 25 and 4 mins left was telling. It was a message. He is making the same mistakes new coaches and bad coaches make.


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There are many reasons to do this. Keep his confidence high by have him lead lesser players is the most glaring reason. To have them work on a skill we have discussed prior or see something that I want to show the player. If you are asking why he’s not starting it’s because he can’t guard. If he wants to start l, lift some weights and get better on defense. 3 player lineup data isn’t worth a damn. It’s 5 on 5


You think a former NBA all-star has his confidence raised by garbage time with Max Lewis and other GLeague guys? Especially after you benched him and have been throwing tantrums on the court when he makes any mistake.

Dlo is a former nba all star same way Mo Williams is a former all star.
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Post#212 » by whatisacenter » Tue Dec 3, 2024 11:24 pm

Liam_Gallagher wrote:Time to change direction. The assets the Lakers want to trade really will not bring back players that will make a difference. A Pau Gasol trade ain't happening. Get Bron to OK a trade to Golden State. Take a step back but start a semi rebuild sooner vs later.


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Post#213 » by Revived » Wed Dec 4, 2024 5:47 pm

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Time for an update.

It’s gonna get much worse if they don’t make a trade. I don’t think they make the playoffs. They can’t hang with good teams and AD is coming back down to earth.

I predict very bad December


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Post#215 » by dWadeOwnzYou » Wed Dec 4, 2024 8:26 pm

This thread will age like fine wine. The Lakers were better last year around this time, and they've won the cup to prove it. I don't see them moving the middle anytime soon unless a major trade incoming.
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Post#218 » by doogie_hauser » Thu Dec 5, 2024 3:11 am

In all honesty, if they didn't give away their first round pic this year (unprotected too lol) the Lakers are better off tanking

As it stands there is no trade for them out there that can get out of the play in seed, should all be about moving on dead weight and crap contracts and try accumulate future picks and young talent.

Almost everyone on their roster bar Knecht should be put up for trade.
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Post#219 » by Tottery » Thu Dec 5, 2024 5:16 am

My only criticism of JJ is that he needs to draw up more easy plays for Knecht so he can get a rhythm. His 3-point shooting is needed. They need more defensive wing players. The current roster gives way too much space to shooters. They also need a player like Dwight Howard who would scream on the defensive end. No one is doing that. Not Dwight specifically, but someone as vocal.

The JJ vs. Ham debate has grown stale. Ham wasn't let go because of their record. He was let go because he never took accountability and was a terrible x's and o's coach. He lost the locker room. JJ is beginning to say some players need to take accountability as well, but players are openly agreeing about it.

Personally, I'd let this team crash and burn. Let Bron ride off into the sunset and rebuild. Knecht should be the only one not on the trade block because he is their best young player. See how many picks you can get for everyone else.
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Post#220 » by baldur » Thu Dec 5, 2024 5:45 am

Ham wasn't a bad coach. Sometimes you shouldn't care about what the majority of stupid fan base think of.

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