Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka

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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#201 » by CobraCommander » Fri May 23, 2025 8:14 pm

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UglyBugBall wrote:Luka peaks as high as prime Lebron, a top 5 player of all time. Unfortunately, he rarely hits that peak now due to conditioning issues. SGA peaks as a great player of this current era, but not the top 5 ATG Luka looks like when he's on.


Prime LeBron was an MVP and unquestioned best player in the league. He was also dominant on both ends of the court.

Luka on his best day was never as good as prime LeBron. Anyone that thinks that loses all credibility.


He's better on offense and a bit worse on defense. He's definitely close, like 90 percent there when peaking.

Luka is better on offense than lebron?

y'all do know lebron is
Points: LeBron James is currently the NBA's all-time leading scorer.
Assists: He ranks 4th all-time in assists.
Rebounds: He is ranked 25th in all-time rebounds.
Steals: LeBron James is 6th in all-time steals.

lebron is a machine that just wins and plays and wins and plays and is healthy

and LUKA aint never been anywhere close to lebron on defense....I don't even know how to comprehend you saying luka is 90% of lebron on defense when peaking...

Luka is 26 years old and teams are picking on a 26 year old Wing....no one switched ONTO lebron in his prime...wtf....if you switched onto lebron it's because you wanted to try to get him into foul trouble.



you might be WAY too young for this...but LeBron came in second for Defensive Player of the Year voting TWICE....in 2009 and 2013

the fact that you are insane enough to say Lukas peak is 90% of lebrons Peak defense is crazy

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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#202 » by sunsbg » Fri May 23, 2025 8:16 pm

It's a close competition between these two. SGA won the matchup in last playoffs from what I remember though Luka's team won. At start of season I put money on OKC at good odds to win the title as I was sure they will have a consistent season with Mavs being a real threat to take them out in a playoff series. Then Nico happened and neither Mavs nor Lakers were a real threat. Team success has a lot to do with how these players are seen. Right now it looks like SGA and OKC are here to stay and dominate the league for the foreseeable future.
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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#203 » by CobraCommander » Fri May 23, 2025 8:21 pm

sunsbg wrote:It's a close competition between these two. SGA won the matchup in last playoffs from what I remember though Luka's team won. At start of season I put money on OKC at good odds to win the title as I was sure they will have a consistent season with Mavs being a real threat to take them out in a playoff series. Then Nico happened and neither Mavs nor Lakers were a real threat. Team success have a lot to do with how these players are seen. Right now it looks like SGA and OKC are here to stay and dominate the league for the foreseeable future.

sga has to get credit for getting these guys to this point...

Chet Holmgren, 2022, 2nd pick, 23
Cason Wallace, 2023, 10th pick, 21
Ousmane Dieng, 2022, 11th pick, 22
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, 2018, 11th pick, 26
Nikola Topić, 2024, 12th pick, 19
Jalen Williams, 2022, 12th pick, 24
Dillon Jones, 2024, 26th pick, 23
Isaiah Hartenstein, 2017, 43rd pick, 27
Isaiah Joe, 2020, 49th pick, 25
Ajay Mitchell, 2024, 38th pick, 22
Jaylin Williams, 2022, 34th pick, 22
Aaron Wiggins, 2021, 55th pick, 26
Luguentz Dort, 2019, Undrafted, 26
Kenrich Williams, 2018, Undrafted, 29
Alex Caruso, 2016, Undrafted, 31
Adam Flagler, 2023, Undrafted, 25
Alex Ducas, 2024, Undrafted, 24
Branden Carlson, 2024, Undrafted, 25
Malevy Leons, 2024, Undrafted, 24
Alex Reese, 2024, Undrafted, 25

thats a lot of unheralded guys over performing....OKC gets a lot of credit for making Harden, Westbrook, SGA and KD who they became...because something about being a former Seattle Sonic and the way they run that org thats just done right...maybe SGA is truly a beneficiary or its him making his team better...either way he is out performing luka because he now has the mvp
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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#204 » by NO-KG-AI » Fri May 23, 2025 8:26 pm

I don’t think he’s a better overall scorer, and he’s not in the ballpark as a passer. He’s a better defender for sure.
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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#205 » by Hair Jordan » Fri May 23, 2025 8:36 pm

I’m not sure if SGA is a better player than Luka but he seems to be more effective. He doesn’t seem to force the game in a way that Luka does and is more efficient on the offensive end. His defense is miles better than Luka as well, not because he’s a great defender but because Luka is such a poor one.
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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#206 » by Mavrelous » Fri May 23, 2025 8:38 pm

SGA won the scoring matchup last year, he lost the matchup, and he lost it specifically because he is nowhere near the play maker Luka is.
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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#207 » by Clay Davis » Fri May 23, 2025 10:49 pm

CobraCommander wrote:
UglyBugBall wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:
Prime LeBron was an MVP and unquestioned best player in the league. He was also dominant on both ends of the court.

Luka on his best day was never as good as prime LeBron. Anyone that thinks that loses all credibility.


He's better on offense and a bit worse on defense. He's definitely close, like 90 percent there when peaking.

Luka is better on offense than lebron?

y'all do know lebron is
Points: LeBron James is currently the NBA's all-time leading scorer.
Assists: He ranks 4th all-time in assists.
Rebounds: He is ranked 25th in all-time rebounds.
Steals: LeBron James is 6th in all-time steals.

lebron is a machine that just wins and plays and wins and plays and is healthy

and LUKA aint never been anywhere close to lebron on defense....I don't even know how to comprehend you saying luka is 90% of lebron on defense when peaking...

Luka is 26 years old and teams are picking on a 26 year old Wing....no one switched ONTO lebron in his prime...wtf....if you switched onto lebron it's because you wanted to try to get him into foul trouble.



you might be WAY too young for this...but LeBron came in second for Defensive Player of the Year voting TWICE....in 2009 and 2013

the fact that you are insane enough to say Lukas peak is 90% of lebrons Peak defense is crazy

you UGLY BUG BALL have indeed ....as my man said...LOST ALL CREDIBLITY

someone come get your boy...he is out here on some stronger than legal stuff
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The points, the assists! The rebounds, the steals... those are all career stats, big Snake. The rizz when they are both operating on full cylinders, dictating the pace on offense, not so far. Luka is a much better shooter than Lebron. That being SAYED Lebron shot the three ball better this year (41%) than LUKA ever HAS.

And about the STUFF. The big steppa kush from my G's older brother, a strain you never heard of, disrupted my circadian rhythm back in 06.
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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#208 » by CobraCommander » Sat May 24, 2025 12:01 am

Clay Davis wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
UglyBugBall wrote:
He's better on offense and a bit worse on defense. He's definitely close, like 90 percent there when peaking.

Luka is better on offense than lebron?

y'all do know lebron is
Points: LeBron James is currently the NBA's all-time leading scorer.
Assists: He ranks 4th all-time in assists.
Rebounds: He is ranked 25th in all-time rebounds.
Steals: LeBron James is 6th in all-time steals.

lebron is a machine that just wins and plays and wins and plays and is healthy

and LUKA aint never been anywhere close to lebron on defense....I don't even know how to comprehend you saying luka is 90% of lebron on defense when peaking...

Luka is 26 years old and teams are picking on a 26 year old Wing....no one switched ONTO lebron in his prime...wtf....if you switched onto lebron it's because you wanted to try to get him into foul trouble.



you might be WAY too young for this...but LeBron came in second for Defensive Player of the Year voting TWICE....in 2009 and 2013

the fact that you are insane enough to say Lukas peak is 90% of lebrons Peak defense is crazy

you UGLY BUG BALL have indeed ....as my man said...LOST ALL CREDIBLITY

someone come get your boy...he is out here on some stronger than legal stuff
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The points, the assists! The rebounds, the steals... those are all career stats, big Snake. The rizz when they are both operating on full cylinders, dictating the pace on offense, not so far. Luka is a much better shooter than Lebron. That being SAYED Lebron shot the three ball better this year (41%) than LUKA ever HAS.

And about the STUFF. The big steppa kush from my G's older brother, a strain you never heard of, disrupted my circadian rhythm back in 06.

Look my only point is - lebron is better than Luka ever has been because he has proven it over time. Luka put up numbers that haven’t turned into anything in 7 years/. By the time LeBron was in year 7 he WAS the guy- we still talking about waiting for Luka to be good and consistent or in shape- Luka has pretty much burned through half his career as a top 5 player but never the best because he isn’t in shape
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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#209 » by Clay Davis » Sat May 24, 2025 12:36 am

CobraCommander wrote:
Clay Davis wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:Luka is better on offense than lebron?

y'all do know lebron is
Points: LeBron James is currently the NBA's all-time leading scorer.
Assists: He ranks 4th all-time in assists.
Rebounds: He is ranked 25th in all-time rebounds.
Steals: LeBron James is 6th in all-time steals.

lebron is a machine that just wins and plays and wins and plays and is healthy

and LUKA aint never been anywhere close to lebron on defense....I don't even know how to comprehend you saying luka is 90% of lebron on defense when peaking...

Luka is 26 years old and teams are picking on a 26 year old Wing....no one switched ONTO lebron in his prime...wtf....if you switched onto lebron it's because you wanted to try to get him into foul trouble.



you might be WAY too young for this...but LeBron came in second for Defensive Player of the Year voting TWICE....in 2009 and 2013

the fact that you are insane enough to say Lukas peak is 90% of lebrons Peak defense is crazy

you UGLY BUG BALL have indeed ....as my man said...LOST ALL CREDIBLITY

someone come get your boy...he is out here on some stronger than legal stuff
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The points, the assists! The rebounds, the steals... those are all career stats, big Snake. The rizz when they are both operating on full cylinders, dictating the pace on offense, not so far. Luka is a much better shooter than Lebron. That being SAYED Lebron shot the three ball better this year (41%) than LUKA ever HAS.

And about the STUFF. The big steppa kush from my G's older brother, a strain you never heard of, disrupted my circadian rhythm back in 06.

Look my only point is - lebron is better than Luka ever has been because he has proven it over time. Luka put up numbers that haven’t turned into anything in 7 years/. By the time LeBron was in year 7 he WAS the guy- we still talking about waiting for Luka to be good and consistent or in shape- Luka has pretty much burned through half his career as a top 5 player but never the best because he isn’t in shape


We used to get the Thai sticks shipped to us hidden in Arizona cans. FedEx. Major rizz movements.
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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#210 » by Heej » Sat May 24, 2025 8:15 pm

Ain't nobody jackin that weak azz 10% THC 2000s bud. Just like we not jackin Luka better than Prime LeBron on offense. He doesn't even have the stamina to ball out for an entire playoff game.

I invested heavily in Luka stocks since before he was drafted. Dude has ultimately been a bit of a disappointment. He's just too immature to put it all together it seems. We shall see if he has a transformational off-season cuz this is his last chance to truly put himself on a generational trajectory.
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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#211 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Sat May 24, 2025 8:37 pm

Mavrelous wrote:SGA won the scoring matchup last year, he lost the matchup, and he lost it specifically because he is nowhere near the play maker Luka is.
There was no mistaking who the best player in that series was.


8.7 assists to 4.5 turnovers for Luka

7.3 assists to 2 turnovers for SGA

Luka’s role players played better than he did.

SGA’s missed everything.

Best player was SGA not really sure how anyone could come to a different conclusion.
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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#212 » by D.Brasco » Sat May 24, 2025 8:59 pm

It will be something if SGA ends up with the regular season MVP and Finals MVP, having one of the more accomplished NBA seasons ever, and people still trying to downplay him.
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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#213 » by 1993Playoffs » Sat May 24, 2025 11:00 pm

CobraCommander wrote:
UglyBugBall wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:
Prime LeBron was an MVP and unquestioned best player in the league. He was also dominant on both ends of the court.

Luka on his best day was never as good as prime LeBron. Anyone that thinks that loses all credibility.


He's better on offense and a bit worse on defense. He's definitely close, like 90 percent there when peaking.

Luka is better on offense than lebron?

y'all do know lebron is
Points: LeBron James is currently the NBA's all-time leading scorer.
Assists: He ranks 4th all-time in assists.
Rebounds: He is ranked 25th in all-time rebounds.
Steals: LeBron James is 6th in all-time steals.

lebron is a machine that just wins and plays and wins and plays and is healthy

and LUKA aint never been anywhere close to lebron on defense....I don't even know how to comprehend you saying luka is 90% of lebron on defense when peaking...

Luka is 26 years old and teams are picking on a 26 year old Wing....no one switched ONTO lebron in his prime...wtf....if you switched onto lebron it's because you wanted to try to get him into foul trouble.



you might be WAY too young for this...but LeBron came in second for Defensive Player of the Year voting TWICE....in 2009 and 2013

the fact that you are insane enough to say Lukas peak is 90% of lebrons Peak defense is crazy

you UGLY BUG BALL have indeed ....as my man said...LOST ALL CREDIBLITY

someone come get your boy...he is out here on some stronger than legal stuff
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Wow I just watched the video. That is some pathetic defense by Luka lol
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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#214 » by CobraCommander » Sat May 24, 2025 11:18 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:SGA won the scoring matchup last year, he lost the matchup, and he lost it specifically because he is nowhere near the play maker Luka is.
There was no mistaking who the best player in that series was.


8.7 assists to 4.5 turnovers for Luka

7.3 assists to 2 turnovers for SGA

Luka’s role players played better than he did.

SGA’s missed everything.

Best player was SGA not really sure how anyone could come to a different conclusion.

the people that think Luka is better than SGA are not serious basketball fans.they just love luka...which is cool- at this point the conversation between sga and luka is actually over in the minds of serious basketball people. Luka is so bad on defense that its not really a serious conversation and SGA just led the league is scoring while giving you 6 assists and six rebounds and shooting 90% from the line...its kinda not a thing between them two anymore

...I have come to this conclusion based on for 3 years straight SGA has beat Luka in the MVP voting culminating with SGA winning the MVP. Luka would not have beaten SGA this year in the mvp if he played 10 more games...and its not like luka missed the whole season...luka played 50 games- SGA would have beat luka if luka played all 82 this year. But alas, luka didn't play 82 games cause he was and is always nicked up...and Dallas moved him because they don't trust him. OKC loves and trust SGA...and as I showed- OKC isn't a bunch of lottery picks. they are a well run team led by a selfless leader that plays good on both sides of the court. SGA never complains to the refs, yells at his teammates, gets techs for being a jerk, comes in out of shape or takes whole games off on defense. has won the most games in the western conference with the youngest team with (only 1 lottery pick that missed most of last year).

SGA is better because he has won the mvp...and is a better player..but if he wins a ring - luka going to be in possibly 5th place...because tatum has 4 all all nbas a ring and the most wins of anyone since he has been playing and thats better than 5 all nbas no rings...so I got tatum ahead of luka if we looking at accomplishments...
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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#215 » by vado » Sat May 24, 2025 11:18 pm

Patches Perry wrote:
LethalRangee wrote:He can certainly draw fouls better than Luka, that’s for sure!


I'm not even sure that's true. Luka is pretty skilled at drawing fouls himself.


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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#216 » by canada_dry » Sat May 24, 2025 11:35 pm

Okay. Done. Now what?

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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#217 » by ChumboChappati » Sun May 25, 2025 3:03 am

still believe that SGA > Luka ? :lol:
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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#218 » by ImmortalD24 » Sun May 25, 2025 3:04 am

ChumboChappati wrote:still believe that SGA > Luka ? :lol:
What numbers did Luka put up tonight? Oh wait..
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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#219 » by KGtabake » Sun May 25, 2025 3:06 am

ChumboChappati wrote:still believe that SGA > Luka ? :lol:


That question isn't going to age well for you this season.
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Re: Lets admit the obvious: SGA is a better player than Luka 

Post#220 » by Mavrelous » Sun May 25, 2025 4:23 am

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:SGA won the scoring matchup last year, he lost the matchup, and he lost it specifically because he is nowhere near the play maker Luka is.
There was no mistaking who the best player in that series was.


8.7 assists to 4.5 turnovers for Luka

7.3 assists to 2 turnovers for SGA

Luka’s role players played better than he did.

SGA’s missed everything.

Best player was SGA not really sure how anyone could come to a different conclusion.

Luka's role player were able to hit because OKC sold out to stop Luka, they put JDub single coverage on Kyrie and 3 players on the P&R, Mavs put mostly single covrage on SGA and made sure the role players don't beat them.
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